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There goes our independence

As per usual Tony has decided that our country is incapable of running its own affairs, and because of this every person in the country can be extradited for simply saying how much the French smell like shit (allegedly). Well it think the EU can die a horrible death, the sooner Britain is truly independant from their stupid medding the better.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Subjects!

    Subject of the 'crown' are not entitled to independence!

    Really folks, how can you stand Blair? Don't mean to rag on you over it but...REALLY BUT!

    Ah the curse of multiculturalism...really, do the French stink? I've only been to Paris and that was a long time ago.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Have you read the list of crimes that are on this EU 'pact' of theirs...There are things like xenophobia, cybercrime..There are things on that list that arent even crimes in the UK...Its totally insane, I can be arrested by UK police, bundled onto a ferry and shipped off to Greece and locked in prison for god knows how long and I might not have even broken any laws in this country...Its absolutely amazing...

    We cant stand Blair Diesel. He is a vile man who deserves to hang for his treason.

    PS, the Canadians are subjects of the crown, as are the Australians. We are subjects of the crown and we are also citizens of the UK..Two very different things <IMG alt="image" SRC="wink.gif" border="0">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Balddog:
    <STRONG>We are subjects of the crown and we are also citizens of the UK..Two very different things <IMG alt="image" SRC="wink.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

    Then why doesn't Blair treat us like citizens?
    This new law goes back on the presumption of guilty until proven innocent. I might think the Greeks stink, does that mean I will be arrested for xenophobia or cyber crime?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blair just treats us like shit..Nah thats giving him too much credit..He treats us as a type of currency. He can trade the UK for the EU presidency, and has done so.

    Well as usual the govt has been very vaque on what the crimes are. Xenophobia is a very open ended thing. Until they put it all on paper then no one knows for sure whats legal and whats not. As an example, the nazi salute thing is illegal in Germany. I watched an episode of monty python on paramount this week that had nazi salutes in a sketch, presumably thats now illegal and the cast of monty python could be extradited to face trial in germany if they did the same today.

    Its completely insane.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And you folks trust your 'government' and don't want to possess weapons...!

    Right...the line is right over there and mind the raisor wire, stay in the painted lines...don't look back and keep your mouth shut!

    Sorry folks, you will be dependent upon the 'criminal' element for defense against your own new EU government...and maybe get lucky and have a soldiers rebellion against the crown/blair bunch.

    Now, let me see, my Cajun folks were subjected to 'ethnic cleansing' by the english in 1757...that ought to be good for a pretty big piece of change...eh?

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We did trust our government..Nobody thought they could just up and bypass all democracy in this country..Theyve just written off 1000 years of English common law in under a month.

    How I wish the Queen would stick up for her country. Im not too keen on the monarchy but at least they have a vested interest in keeping England in a good state. If the Queen were to veto this damn terrorism act then im sure she would have widespread support from all over the country. As normal its the tiny but very vocal minority who are getting things done for the worse in this country..

    Damn Tony Blair and damn his government of liars, cheats and traitors.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, I have to say that I'm hellishly worried by recent legislative moves in the UK, too.

    I don't have a problem with federalization or globalization as such - I happen to think that the human race has to start to act as one in order to survive. To me, the clinging to nationhood now is akin to the various states of America opposing the Confederation and later the Union. No, even better, it's akin to tribalism. See what I'm saying? Beyond a certain point factionalism is sheer idiocy.

    However, I am very much concerned by the manner in which high-level political conglomerations are being formed. For example, I sure as heck don't approve of the manner in which British sovereignty is being signed away to the EU. I disapprove of the method, though not necessarily the aim; I also despise the character of the people to whom our powers are being signed away.

    Diesel, you can probably recall some of the arguments we had over the right to bear arms and such. While I still have reservations, I'm now far more in favour of an armed citizenry than I used to be, I think. Were I armed, would I strike against the government now? No, but only just.

    (I wonder, can I be locked up for typing that?)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Can we be arrested for saying we want a revolution?
    Not a crappy commie one, a proper one where we get a decent leader?

    I only hope the army and police realise that they have sworn allegiance to defend the country from enemies both external and internal. What we need is a good civil war, but this time everyone would be against parliment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You are all going to hate me for saying this, but:

    It looks like you must turn to the IRA to save you from the EU beast!

    If the dog hadn't stopped to shit it would have caught the rabbit...'if' is no excuse for not having the means to defend you and yours...again Balddog, how can you stand it there?

    Really folks, at 62 I am way too radical for most of you...but it does appear that the ol pirate kingdom is living up to someone else's curse.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The IRA are even more communist/socialist than the EU...Dont see how they are gonna be any better.

    I doubt guns will be needed in this one..Tony Blair will eventually be kicked out by the ambitious scum in his cabinet. Hopefully one of them will realise its of more benefit to them if we stay out of the EU. Offer them enough money or power and they will change their policies.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The Brits are too bloody apathetic to have a revolution - fuck, half can't even be bother to vote.

    I'd rather be a Yank than a European...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ditto
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As some of you may know, I'm studying maths at Warwick at the mo. In considering a place to do a PhD, should I want to take my studies that far, I've always considered the states as a leading candidate. The academic concensus is that while a UK undergrad degree is among the best, the postgrad is strongest in the USA.

    Now, I'm considering going to the States for reasons political as well as academic. In the light of the UK and USA's respective governments' actions in the wake of September 11, I think I'd feel far more secure on the other side of the pond.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Who trusts Blair, I was saying that this would happen in 1997. The way Blair shafted the Labour Party by abolishing clause 4 showed what the c*nt thought of anything other than his own fucking ego.

    Im beginning to think guns would be cool...I know Id shoot the fucker dead without any feelings of guilt.
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