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World War 3?
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The way things are heading we are indeed heading for a major world war.
I would like to hear other peoples opinions on this.
What happened to the US was indeed an act of war, there is no doubting that and it was a cowardly one at that. The question is now to retaliate or not. Now I as much as the next person would love to see the people responsible for this suffer as much as those poor civilians did.
However on an equal note to that I would not like to seet he start of a new and potentially catastrophic war where even more civilians get killed - victims to mass and uprising terrorism.
So I hope before any military action is taken (much as I would like to see it happen) I think the consequences should be considered first.
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I would like to hear other peoples opinions on this.
What happened to the US was indeed an act of war, there is no doubting that and it was a cowardly one at that. The question is now to retaliate or not. Now I as much as the next person would love to see the people responsible for this suffer as much as those poor civilians did.
However on an equal note to that I would not like to seet he start of a new and potentially catastrophic war where even more civilians get killed - victims to mass and uprising terrorism.
So I hope before any military action is taken (much as I would like to see it happen) I think the consequences should be considered first.
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No one wanted it but the world is a crowded place...the 'crusades' are back on and islam is toast...get some supplies in, some bottled water...watch your six and look after your own AO!
The US is going to nuke the bastards into a heap of glass...!
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OO-RAH!!!
[This message has been edited by Dom Waghorn (edited 13-09-2001).]
Hell, I think America has shown amazing patience..Had it been me in Bushs place on the 11th then I would have flattened Afhganistan...I guess thats why hes paid to be President, hes gotta think things through.
Sorry but I disagree with you fJear. I think a war is the only possible response. Its not a time for bringing those responsible to justice..America needs to set a seriously high precedent - Attack America and we will kill you, your family, your children, your friends, your neighbours, your leaders, the woman who runs the store down the road.
They need to learn that they cannot get away with this kind of thing.
Theres a lot of talk about innocent civilians dying. Well most people in the Arab world are dancing on the streets celebrating the deaths of 20,000 innocent civilians. The second a civilian starts supporting the actions of terrorist groups then they are no longer innocent.
I do not want a war but it is here now and we arent going to get away from it.
In Texas a mosque was shot up;
In Washington (state) islamic centers have been defaced;
There is a mosque with minaret about a mile from where I live...we don't drive by it any more....
"Before that great and terrible day of destruction there must first be a great cleansing..."
Sometimes old books tell it like it is.
Be careful cousings...!
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Categorically - I condemn the attack on the WTC and Pentagon, the people that died were innoccent, they had no blood on their hands.
However, when the US arms, trains, finances and supports terrorist organisations that murder innoccents then they must not be surprised when there are reprisals against their citizens.
Once again, I deplore the use of violence, and my sympathies go with those that are affected, but the only way to stop this from happening again is for the US government to have a good long look at it's activities in the name of profit and 'democracy' . Bombs won't solve anything, they'll just cause a new generation to rise up against the US.
I know this might offend some, and I apologise, but have you ever questioned why someone might attack the US in such a horrendous manner.
Baldog - I didn't realise that they had proved it was Afghanistan. This smacks of capital punishment (another American fuckup). Nuke them then prove it I suppose. No thanks. That's not justice.
Really? It seems like you do. Nobody is forcing America to attack anyone, they are just doing it for revenge, not justice.
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You're an expert? According to experts on Islamic terrorists, the United States was targeted because it is the most visible symbol of the western lifestyle, a lifestyle that these extremists find immoral and hateful. Could just as easily been England, or Germany, or France. What we call "the civilised world" was the target.
As for a world war, it would be a rather unusual one since every major power in the world is on the same side. America, Britain, Germany, Australia, Russia, China, etc.
One of the scariest things is if you read Nostradamus' prediction and writings on the Anti-christ, someone who will rise to power in the middle east, and implementing puppet dictators will sieze control of Asia and Northern Africa. War won't be declared on the West until they send in armies to protect the oil supplies. Then with his army he will invade Europe before being halted by the combined armies of the "northern pole" or Russia, USA and the remaining armies of Europe. The war will last for 3 years and 7 months and will involve an attack on New York (happened) and an attack on London.
The only way this will happen is if the USA DOESNT take action now. Nostradamus stipulated that if the armies of the West faltered or delayed a pre emptive strike then all this would happen.
It wasnt Afghanistan, it was Bin laden. The Taliban have been protecting him until now. Apparently they have now put him under house arrest over there. Maybe they think he went too far this time? Theres no proof as yet but hes the #1 suspect.
Capital punishment?? Not quite sure where that comes into it..In case you hadnt noticed, the US has NOT nuked anyone, they havent made a response of any type. You havent a clue what the US is going to do, neither do we. The people putting their opinions on this thread have NO influence whatsoever on what happens. We are just people on a forum.
America HASNT attacked anyone..They are doing it just for revenge? Bullshit. These terrorists have to be shown that they will have to take responsibility for their actions. If the US didnt take 'revenge' then the green light would be up for any other terrorist with a grievance against the states.
I was using capital punishment as an example of dishing out 'justice' when there is no proof. A justice that is non-rewversable, such as nuking something.
Bollocks. You think taking revenge on one group will stop another from taking action. Not at all, it just escalates the situation. Do you seriously think that taking out Bin laden will prevent someone else from attacking the states? It hasn't worked before, and it won't work now.
I'm not even going to start on the multiple and conflicting interpretations of Nostradamus.
Well that post was talking about the anger felt. I was praising Bush for his patience and level headedness. I was so angry on the 11th that I felt liking destroying Afghanistan...Again it wasnt Afghanistan but they shelter Bin Laden so they are guilty by association and non action.
Ah ok, I wasnt sure. Not a good analogy as the vast majority of those punished are guilty and have been proven so....again the US has dont nothing so far..They are not rushing into anything, they are not nuking anyone without proof.
Maybe not but it sure as hell will make them think hard about it. Do you have a better suggestion than killing those responsible? Let them get away with it? You put down our suggestions but I dont see anything better coming from you. I spose we could always 'rehabilitate' them eh? Few years in minimum security and theyll be ready to be back on the streets.
Nostradamus isnt really the most reliable person to listen to Whowhere.
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I think the problems that caused this to happen should be addressed. Judging by the targets (the symbols of American/western corporate and military might) it could be said that whoever did this was pissed off at America for continually imposing their will on the rest of the world.
Third world debt, corporate, military and social oppression are all problems that could be (at least in part) attributed to the western system of capitalism. I'm not on an anti-capitalist rant, but I do think that these are serious problems and they need to be looked at by someone that could solve them - America.
I appreciate that this is a tradegy, any loss of human life is, but the people who did this obviously thought that there was no other way to express their point. It doesn't justify their actions, but it does go some way to explaining them.
If there does have to be some sort of revenge, then I would hope that America was sure of who did it, and got the ringleaders. Afghanistan is full of normal people too, who are just trying to get through their (admittedly tailban oppressed) lives.
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Of course you are right here. America now MUST look at their position in the world. Theres no doubt that both America and pretty much the whole western world have imposed their will and way of life upon others. Remember theres little that the US does without the UN and us.
America is either going to go back to being very isolationist which however you view the Americans, is a bad thing.
The other option is that they go in twice as hard. Their support of Israel will increase a thousandfold. They will continue their presence in the middle east and bring a lot more military pressure to bear.
Anything the US decides to do will involve us. In the next couple of weeks theres gonna be about 25,000 British troops along with the largest fleet since the Falklands, stationed in Oman for exercises. If things do go arse over tit then they will more than likely be involved.
We are in for some interesting times ahead
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You obviously have some wacko hatred of Islam and the muslims and this event
has just added fuel to the fire
What you need to do is keep it to yourself, get on eith your life and realise that really your ideas are wrong and not believed by the majority of people on this board.
You are a joke basically
Interesting to note that your own country, The United Arab Emirates, has this very day cut off diplomatic links with the Taleban. I think that shows what your country thinks of this situation. If the Taleban beat the Americans then they will surely remember who their friends were and the UAE is no friend if they cut off diplomatic relation.
In a fight between two Moslems who does Allah protect?
When first I read your question I didn’t want to answer because I don’t have the answer (Do you want to live under the Taliban?) but now I have it. Do you know I am college student I learn what they want me to learn I live in modern life my grandmother didn’t dream to live I follow some how the American style good job, good salary, beautiful house, modern car……
But I feel somehow empty in my inside . but in my secret dream I always dream that I am not college student, I don’t have job. I am a wife with religious man and lets say 10 children. Live in his house and I think that what Taliban offer for women.
Balddog
I don’t want to talk about my country please respect my wishes.
And about your question Allah protect who is innocent and who have the right.
No problem.
You really wish for this? I believe you would be punished by the Taleban for even writing on this website if you lived under them right? I wonder if you would feel the same if your religious husband died. I wonder if the Talebans treatment of you then would be so tempting.
Love & Hate are all consuming emotions though they are not opposites...my true opinion and feelings toward all that is islam is indifference.
islam has destroyed those who 'love' it and it only gets worse...before islam the arab world was the world of enlightenment...indeed, islame makes the 'nazis' look tame and amaterurish by comparison.
The terrorish come out of the cancer posted on the other thread...long! And it is my opinion that before all is done and said sites such as Mecca will be nuked and its reason for existance will cease...this is not what I want to see...just what I expect in this upcoming war...and with it will sinkthe notion of multiculturalism spued about by the soft minded folk who brought to us our present political notion of 'equality' and made of productive society a cancer on humanity.
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Really? http://www.wapha.org/facts.html
Because he sees them as 'freedom fighters' and doesn't se the obvious hipocracy in his approach.
It has been an ongoing disagreement between us.
Amon;
Well don't talk about our country then.
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