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i thought it was gonna stay resonable

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Hi guys , I'm one of the americian "gun nuts". It was actually going all right for a while before it fell apart into insults and accusations. "You'r a redneck", "we saved your ass". anyhow now you see the true essence of the gun control issue here. it is absoulutly polorizing. one side just can not understand the others reasoning. anyhow you seem to have a very nice board and i think I'll hang around if you don't mind.i've always enjoyed my trips to your country and had fun with the people I've met besides it's always nice to get another perspective on events.
P.S.
any other bike nuts here.

[This message has been edited by panchop (edited 19-07-2001).]
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    you'll only be welcome if you respect other's opinions and dont try to brainwash us!

    and this is a board for politics, if you want to discuss other stuff then its most welcome in the relevant topic, like introductions in anything goes, etc.

    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
    ~ Nietzsche
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    no problem. just picked up the TEEN sight thing. guess i'll be moving along. good luck to you all whatever you think.
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    thank you for at least being reasonable <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    not everyone's a teen tho... coupla oldies, 30 odd even <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt; hehe... you'd be welcome to stay provided you stick to what i already said <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; but tis up to you if you want to move along.

    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
    ~ Nietzsche
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    not everyone's a teen tho... coupla oldies, 30 odd even

    Oi! Oldies? Cheeky moo. I'll just get my zimmer and sherry and settle down for the night, shall I?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No way you can have a reasonable thread. this is the most heavily moderated site I have ever seen.
    If the Mod don't like what you have to say it disappears.


    Mod just how long have you been a Nazi ?

    Uh oh I geuss I'll get Banned..

    BRAVO FOXTROT DELTA.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Stonehenge:
    No way you can have a reasonable thread. this is the most heavily moderated site I have ever seen.
    If the Mod don't like what you have to say it disappears.


    Mod just how long have you been a Nazi ?

    Uh oh I geuss I'll get Banned..

    BRAVO FOXTROT DELTA.


    No-one said that you have freedom of speech on thesite, dude <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:
    No-one said that you have freedom of speech on thesite, dude <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;


    Only those that the Moderator agrees with have freedom of speech.Is that it.
    Only those that agree with thr Party have free speech Right.

    Did you have to try hard to be such a biggot or did it come naturally???


    Freedom rocks !

    [This message has been edited by Stonehenge (edited 19-07-2001).]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You have free speach until we dont like you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit:
    You have free speach until we dont like you.

    Do you even understand the concept of freedom. I doubt it.


    Freedom rocks !
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    JsTJsT Posts: 18,268 Skive's The Limit
    No, u have a point of view, until u either break the law, or try and force your opionions onto others. From here in the UK, u've broken both.

    BRITISH BULLDOG: <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/flags/uk.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Which one of your oppresive laws did I break ?

    I have forced my opinon . How. if you don't like what I have to say then don't read it.

    Are you the village idiot or what?

    Freedom rocks !
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Stonehenge:

    Are you the village idiot or what?


    nah your job's safe

    Playing with fire will ultimately see you burnt <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/ukliam2.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mr.Devil, whatever, Son why don't you go wait in line to vote on your favorite Liberal.
    Wait and see where they take your country. in 10 years you'll all be begging for guns to thwart off criminals.

    And we'll be sitting back laughing our asses off.

    I bet in all your posts you have never added one inteligent remark. arn't you late for school Boy.

    Freedom rocks !
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Stonehenge, if you don't like the site or the way it's moderated theres a simple soloution - don't come here.

    We had no problem here. It was all quiet with some nice discussions and some respect for each other. Then this Team Ferret bloke comes along with his gun and suddenly the sites full of abusive Yanks who fell the need to own big guns to make up for what they must lack down their trousers.

    You've turned this site into 'you' and 'us' with you trying to force your opinions on us. It wasn't like that before you came. This is why you've noticed this site is moderated because the mods are there to keep this a nice friendly site where we can all discuss thing reasonably.

    Either calm down and be nice or go away please!

    Forward ever
    Backward never
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Stonehenge:

    I bet in all your posts you have never added one inteligent remark. arn't you late for school Boy.


    You're obviously full of intelligent remarks arn't you!



    Forward ever
    Backward never
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Would you all stop flirting with each other please?? (L,S & 2 SB ironically enough!!)

    This is by far NOT the most heavily modded site I've ever been on, try the GameFAQs boards for a place where you'll be modded just for being off-topic.

    It's true that Team Ferret seemed to kick off an infusion of gun ownership threads, but if you read his thread "Mob Pyschology" you'll see he apologised for his initial aggression and even wonders where the rest of the US-based posters came from.

    If anyone wants to use the site they must agree to abide by the rules that are in force here, even if you don't like them. If you feel you've been unfairly discriminated against then write to the Admin with the details, baiting the Mods and calling 'em Nazi's isn't exactly gonna boost your case.

    I ain't just directing this at the US-based posters either, I've read some pretty dumb and pointless comments originating from this side of the Atlantic too.

    So sure, it's a touchy subject, but that isn't gonna stop you from having a polite intelligent discussion about it is it?? After all, the only reason not to have an intelligent discussion is a lack of intelligence..........

    <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Stonehenge:


    if you don't like what I have to say then don't read it.


    but if i havent read it, how will i know i dont like it? and if i dont read it, i'm not giving you your full hearing (whether or not you deserve it). <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    Liberals - dont use that term as an insult. people like you complain (rightly)if we (myself not included) call you 'rednecks'. so dont use the term 'liberal' (i class myself as a social and political liberal) as an insult either. fair deal?

    and dont call the mods nazis. my grandfather died defending the world from those scum, and i am (and im sure many others are too) disgusted by your bandying-around of such a term. and i'd prefer to think that millions didnt die fighting against the moderators.

    Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Stonehenge:

    Only those that the Moderator agrees with have freedom of speech.Is that it.
    Only those that agree with thr Party have free speech Right.

    Did you have to try hard to be such a biggot or did it come naturally???


    If you think I'm a bigot then you obviously haven't read any of my post. Easy to be judgmental without knowledge, isn't it?

    You assume the right to post whatever you want, and that is not the case. We have libel laws, we have anti-racism laws, we have rules of the boards each of which MUST be moderated otherwise you could personally be sued as could thesite. You can be prosecuted for inciting racial hatred on a UK based site. There IS no freedom of speech on thesite - but then where DOES it exist?
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    JsTJsT Posts: 18,268 Skive's The Limit
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:

    You assume the right to post whatever you want, and that is not the case. We have libel laws, we have anti-racism laws, we have rules of the boards each of which MUST be moderated otherwise you could personally be sued as could thesite. You can be prosecuted for inciting racial hatred on a UK based site. There IS no freedom of speech on thesite - but then where DOES it exist?
    which is the laws i was refering to ealier in this thread

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Answer to all.
    i didn't start the flame war. But I will respond in kind.
    Y'all start I escalate. Simple enough.

    Us Americans were led here because y,all were bashing America. I stayed to see if there was any substance. I'm not sure yet.

    The Mod was acting as a Nazi. sso that's what I called him.

    Outrageous censorship

    I'm not trying to brainwash anyone. Just giving y'all the other side. the side that the Liberal press doesn't want you to hear.

    I DON'T THINK I VIOLATED ANY OF YOUR LAWS. I HAVE NEVER MADE A RACIST STATEMENT.
    But since I was accused how about pointing out exactly where and when I broke one of your oppresive laws.

    Liberals is what you are and in my country it ain't a good thing.. By the way I am as RED as it gets. and calling me a Redneck ain't no insult to me.

    I may stay and maybe not I ain't decided yet.

    Freedom rocks !
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You flamed a mod and your surprised they banned you? I thought you were just dim...jeez, I really overestimated you.
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    JsTJsT Posts: 18,268 Skive's The Limit
    Originally posted by Stonehenge:
    Answer to all.
    i didn't start the flame war. But I will respond in kind.
    Y'all start I escalate. Simple enough.

    Us Americans were led here because y,all were bashing America. I stayed to see if there was any substance. I'm not sure yet.

    The Mod was acting as a Nazi. sso that's what I called him.

    Outrageous censorship

    I'm not trying to brainwash anyone. Just giving y'all the other side. the side that the Liberal press doesn't want you to hear.

    I DON'T THINK I VIOLATED ANY OF YOUR LAWS. I HAVE NEVER MADE A RACIST STATEMENT.
    But since I was accused how about pointing out exactly where and when I broke one of your oppresive laws.

    Liberals is what you are and in my country it ain't a good thing.. By the way I am as RED as it gets. and calling me a Redneck ain't no insult to me.

    I may stay and maybe not I ain't decided yet.


    Ok ur not trying to brainwash us, but surely you have made your point's cant you just leave us all in peace or change the record, please?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    you'll only be welcome if you respect other's opinions and dont try to brainwash us!



    Brainwash you? Now that is funny! At least you people have sence of humor! WHAT IS THERE TO WASH? THERE IS NOTHING LEFT!


    Russian gun nut
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit:
    You flamed a mod and your surprised they banned you? I thought you were just dim...jeez, I really overestimated you.
    I simply asked the Mod why he was acting as such. And he didn't ban me . If he banned me I wouldn't still be here.



    Freedom rocks !
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Volk:
    Brainwash you? Now that is funny! At least you people have sence of humor! WHAT IS THERE TO WASH? THERE IS NOTHING LEFT!



    What was the point to that? all I see are people insulting others, not making any real points at all. grow the fuck up

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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    no one was bashing america. but, as you lowered the tone of the intelligent debate on gun laws to the point of its deletion, we cant go back and check now can we? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif"&gt;

    before this "invasion" there were several/many intelligent american posters, who were reasonable in their arguments and entirely unlike the new additions to this site from across the pond.

    unfortunately you've lowered my opinion of the general american public a great deal. (intelligent respected members of thesite who have proved themselves to be not-wankers already aside).

    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
    ~ Nietzsche
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    the_Paranoid_bunnythe_Paranoid_bunny Posts: 487 Listening Ear
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    before this "invasion" there were several/many intelligent american posters, who were reasonable in their arguments

    like Kitty, who is currently sitting just above you in this thread! Hi Kitty! *looks up and waves*

    TheSite.org unofficial chat room!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    no one was bashing america. but, as you lowered the tone of the intelligent debate on gun laws to the point of its deletion, we cant go back and check now can we? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif"&gt;

    before this "invasion" there were several/many intelligent american posters, who were reasonable in their arguments and entirely unlike the new additions to this site from across the pond.

    unfortunately you've lowered my opinion of the general american public a great deal. (intelligent respected members of thesite who have proved themselves to be not-wankers already aside).

    They were deleted because your Mod didn't like what us Americans had to say. Not because of the tone.
    None of you Brainwashed Morons can post one reason why guns should be banned in the U.S.
    Please don't start quoting the liberal socialist propaganda. We've all heard it before.

    You have added nothing to any of these conversations that my 6 yr old daughter couldn't have added. So you ought to do a little self reflection before insulting us. Wanker

    I like to go to different types of boards and talk to different people but i'm through with you Socialists.
    Y'all will pay dearly one day for being Blind Sheep.

    Now that I think about it Maybe y'all shouldn't own Guns. After all a good bit of intellegence is required in their safe handling..

    Good Bye Brainwashed Sheep.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Stonehenge:
    They were deleted because your Mod didn't like what us Americans had to say. Not because of the tone.

    MOD APPEAL!!

    Could one of you post a quick explanation of your reasons for the deletions that are so aggravating these people, just so we can get it settled?

    Btw, as I see it, there are at least TWO gun questions:
    1) Whether introducting guns into a gun-less country is wise;
    2) Whether trying to remove guns from a gun-owning country is wise.

    I think these deserve separate consideration as they have different practical aspects etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: deleting of topics.

    It's nothing to do with censorship. We've always had a range of people on these boards, with political opinions ranging from the far left to far right. This is fine.

    What we can't accept is users who are overly abusive and threatening in their messages.
    Consequently, some people were banned - those who turned up and immediately became abusive. As you can see for yourselves, other new users were allowed to stay as they seemed to be discussing points rationally without getting personal in their attacks.

    Some threads were deleted, mainly because they had escalated into abusive flame wars.

    And on a purely asthetic basis, having a dozen threads all covering ther same discussions is messy. Which is why Karla asked everyone to stick to the couple of topics already live.

    If you don't like it, then I'm very sorry, but that's the way we operate.

    Cheers,

    Dom
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