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Is the AIDS virus "darwinism" at work?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
It seems tolerance and acceptance of homosexuals is a big deal on this forum. People who have voiced there dislike of such unholy practices and lifestyles have been blocked and blacklisted here. So I approach it in another way. We all know about Charles Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest, right? Well the whole HIV/AIDS epidemic proves him right. Look at the statistics who are the most frequently infected people?
Male homosexuals
IV drug users
Are they the fittest? No. It was nature's design that there are male and female. Regardless of your thoughts on sex, intercourse is supposed to happen for procreation only. Do other mammals fuck for pleasure? No. Like the banned one thanatos Jr said penis fits vagina because it was meant that way. Do other male mammals fuck other male mammals up the ass? No because if they did their species would not continue to proliferate. If a mouse is born with 3 legs it will eventually be caught by the cat and die. cleaning the gene pool of defective mice. If the cat is too stupid to catch the mouse with 3 legs, it will starve and die. Thus end the defective genes of dumb cats.
when man has sex with man, it is wrong. this is natures way of correcting what is wrong.
So you may ask, why does this not infect lesbian women at a rate of which it does men?
Simple, men are the dominant ones of the species. Without men, women will die too. However, women bear children. It requires many women to continue the species. It would require but one man to pass on his seed. On a different note man gets pleasure from seeing woman have sex with woman. Because we are dominant and it is our desire, women will not perish from AIDS like gay men will.
IV drug users, they are not the fittest. they have a weakness for substance abuse. Many share old needles because they would rather spend their money on the substance of choice.
A further transmission of the Virus. Money is another problem, if your smacked out of your mind all day it's pretty damn hard to hold a job. so they become part time prostitutes. Selling their rectum to the queers for drug money.
Unfortunately, there are innocent victums of the AIDS epidemic. those who aquire it accidently, through a blood transfusion or because they had heterosexual sex with some bisexual fruitcake who thought expirimenting with the same sex would be good fun.
Perhaps these innocent victims mean our entire race is doomed to die. All because of those who would tolerate homosexuals and those who would be homosexual.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Good point, I wholly agree. Abnormal behaviors create abnormal diseases, which is what AIDS and the HIV virus is. Think about it. HIV infects your immune system and screws it completely up, makes it abnormal, and react in an abnormal way. Survival of the fittest, hooah!

    "Avauncez!"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I see AIDS as a way of thinning the heard by eliminating the weak and stupid.

    Some will say that I'm no good, maybe I'll agree. Take a look and walk away, that's all right with me.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Posted by the Impaler:
    "I see AIDS as a way of thinning the heard by eliminating the weak and stupid."

    And what do you constitute as being "the weak and stupid?"

    "Avauncez! To Defend and Serve!"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oddly enough this is probably still offensive to many but I did not argue the religous point or my own beliefs (not much anyways) I just used pure science.
    remember before you censors hit delete, I didn't go Nazi on this post and say anything about killing homosexuals or crazy stuff like that. They're doing it to themselves.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by gi_janearng:
    Survival of the fittest, hooah!


    Sorry to have to correct you, publicly, but it is time that you learn that the correct pronunciation is OO-RAH!!! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

    Oops, I forgot! This is Thanatos, posting as berzerker...

    Looks like ANOTHER case of discrimination... they won't let you post in different size font here. Hmmm, do they discriminate against COLORS , too?!?!? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    MR Rage... I believe that what I am hearing is that AIDS and HIV are nature's way of pruning away them unfit to survive. GUESS WHAT, guys (and girls)? Mother Nature is NOT politically correct, but IS effective in getting what she wants! LMFAO!



    [This message has been edited by berzerker (edited 07-09-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by gi_janearng:And what do you constitute as being "the weak and stupid?"

    Gay and English.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with much of this, having read in "The Lancet" and papers from the prestigeous Pasteur Institute a great many studies on the AIDS pantageon...the virus is indeed spread by interesting situations.

    In Africa it is commonly spread by truck drivers to prostitutes and then back to more truck drivers...and others...and is as common among women as men;

    AIDS is indeed wipeing out the gender challenged in US, Canada, 'the West' in general and taking with it a lot of our druggies and some receiving iv medical procedures involving blood products.

    As much as I hate to give a socialist or communist credit for anything I do have to say that Cuba certainly has an enlightened approach, and for Cuba, a PC solution. They quarentine the infected ones and treat them decently while denying them an opportunity to spread the disease...if US was still involved there half the population would already be infected.

    US prisons and jails do nothing to seperate the diseased ones...indeed, AIDS is spreading in our prison and jail populations...I have to wonder what the effect is in english, French, German...and other European countries...I have heard that the Swiss have a problem with it and have to wonder why.

    Darwin rules, the weak do not survive...perhaps the abstainers do...but does the species?

    Diesel

    88888888
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    With the acceptance of homosexuality as it is in many places, you have to ask another question. What will be the next abnormal behavior to be accepted by society? Fifty years ago in America if you were a fag, you were thought of as some kind of a pervert. Now if an individual speaks out against this perverted lifestyle, they're called a bigot or a nazi, or a homophobe. I can only guess that in the next 50 years it'll be bestiality, incest or pedophilia that will then be accepted. Hey, if your Golden Retriever is willing, who says I can't have relations with it.

    I call homosexuality as being abnormal not as an insult but because it is against the norm, making it abnormal.

    "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It would seem that the weak of mind clearly DO survive, in fact they appear to procreate like rabbits. Before joining the military and becoming real men, that is.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well OrangeAIDS, that's one way to address the issue. Instead of trying to claw my eyes out why don't you try to defend your freakish lifestyle.

    "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Do other mammals fuck for pleasure? No
    [/QUOTE}

    Small point, but in actual fact the Bonbo (sp?) Apes have sex for pleasure including homosexual and lesbian practices. They are also more closely related to streak munching marines than Chimpanzees. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hey mookat, check the gays in the military (final page).

    Yes actually, the reason i chose my boardname is because...i'd like to make an announcement. Yes i am ex-military, and i now have AIDS. I am dying. The sad reason for this is that i and my beefy straight male colleagues, serving in Bosnia, were on leave in Srebrenica for several days in 1993. We'd been drinking for about 4 hours and on leaving the bar we hit the local brothel. Hard. Having fucked about 4 hungarian and muslim girls i had had my fill (pardon the pun) and staggered back to barracks. Only last year, having married and had several children did find that i and my wife were both HIV +, a disorder which i have traced back (since my wife is a virgin, obviously) to my time in the Balkans. If only i had not strayed. If only i had been like a real army man who, unlike gays, does not indulge in sexual pleasures during times of combat and puts the needs of the group first, then i would have been ok. What's really annoying is that it was probably some straight redneck that gave aids to the poor bitch i fucked and got aids from (whichever one it was).
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To your family my deepest condolences. To you I couldn't give a rat's fat ass. I took the same chances and if it happened to me, oh well.

    "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Perfect, I'm worried, were you in Srebrenica then, too? Did you take a muslim girl(working the Banjaluca bar) roughly and forcefully from behind like i did? Buddy, if i were you i'd go get tested. Surely you need to <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif">know? She was good though.....
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Srebrenica isn't the only place in the world with nasty whores and yes I've been tested.

    "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Wow Rage, that's some theory, did you come up with it all by yourself?? I expect you did, judging from the way it's phrased.

    As Moonkat says, Bonobo's, dolphins and other higher mammals that are sexually active all year as opposed to a particular season all have sex for pleasure (weird concept eh??) just as we do.

    To be honest, I don't really mind about your opinions or views, everyone's different, but I'm curious about your theory. Please explain the concept of evolution, and also survival of the fittest, and how HIV/AIDS forms an integral part of this process. Or is your theory in fact a huge steaming lump of BS???

    Only users lose drugs
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But why would you feel the need to be tested? Surely if its Darwinism at work and survival of the fittest your not at risk seeing as you’re an American and a marine at that your the peak of human perfection aren’t you?
    After all HIV only kills junkies, whores and queers right?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ever hear of collateral damage?
    You are correct though. I am at the peak of perfection. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/cool.gif"&gt;

    "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hey, Moonkat, it's killing me, alright? Feckin Limey. Think you know it all don't you? Smartie pants. Well i can tell you AIDS can kill EVEN a US Marine. It's killing me, dagnammit!!!! Back to the moon with you, find some cheese!!!!!!!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hehe well I can see this thread is gonna be a long one.

    I reckon youre right somewhat because AIDS is certainly weeding out the fuckin stupid from the population. Anyone stupid enough to screw around unprotected with strangers is not a great loss to the gene pool. Same goes for prisons, im not gonna loose any sleep over dead convicts.

    There are more cases of HIV and AIDS in the gay community because they are more promiscuous than their straight counterparts. Your average gay man is exposed to far more chances of infection than your average straight guy.

    Gay men do not contribute to the continuance of the species so it may well be Darwinism weeding out unproductive/weaker elements.

    "An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Or it may just be a disease like any other that just happens to exist in this world. Seperate from any crackpot notions of 'natural selection' or sundry other pseudo-fascist ideas used by idiots to justify and 'prove' their hatred of gays to be right. Switch your brain on Balddog, i know you've got one.

    The fact that there are far more straight men who are infected with and at risk from hiv/aids seems to pass you by (i suspect, deliberately).
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So you'd be quite happy for your wife/children/brother/drill sergeant( <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif">) to die as its only collateral damage? Well I say why not go the whole hog and deliberately infect everyone with HIV to speed things up a little. There’d be no backing out of this one – if your not a prime specimen its curtains for you sunshine. Instead of them hanging on, bleeding the system dry for years we can weed out the defective goods and be left with the master race within the space of a generation. Because that’s what this is about isn’t it? Getting rid of all the people who don’t subscribe to your way of life.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The world is a very crowded place folks...when AIDS excedes the birthrate worldwide you will then see how nature does thin out the unnecessary or redundant of the species.

    AIDS is a terrible way to die...I live in a neighborhood where you see it happen, have had tenants who were infected with it and in the dying process.

    As for deliberately spreading HIV, it happens, I have heard infected ones declare publicly and even on TV...that..."I want to infect as many people as I can, then you will be forced to find a cure for AIDS!"

    AIDS is a lintavirus...no lintivirus has ever been 'defeated' and a cure found for it. And deliberately spreading it merely gurantees company in the grave yard.

    It has been established that the HIV virus can...CAN...be contracted from casual contact, there is recorded instances of it actually being contracted from a bathroom door handle...remember, it doesn't take much contact to infect.

    Testing, containment and quarentine...can save most of us...but it is a politicalized disease and it would not be politically correct to round up the diseased and decently house them somewhere out of site and contact with the 'clean' citizens.

    Get the politics out of medicine and get control...the example must come from england if the US is to act...because, like it or not, US culture does rise out of the ol pirate kingdom...that's why we love to hate ye so much!

    I'm still wondering how AIDS became such a problem in Switzerland...does anyone on this board know?

    Ta...or is it tata?

    Diesel

    88888888
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Or it may just be a disease like any other that just happens to exist in this world.

    Yup youre right it may just be another disease.
    Seperate from any crackpot notions of 'natural selection' or sundry other pseudo-fascist ideas used by idiots to justify and 'prove' their hatred of gays to be right

    If one subscribes to Darwins theory then, taking all political and social comments from the idea, then it is a possibility. If you go right down to the basics..gays cannot procreate therefore they arent useful to the continuance of the species.
    The fact that there are far more straight men who are infected with and at risk from hiv/aids seems to pass you by (i suspect, deliberately).

    Im guessing because I dont know the numbers but this would be in Africa right? The poverty and general awful situation they live in over there means its not a proper comparison. Are there more straight men with HIV or AIDS in the UK than gays?(honest question there)

    Of course Darwins theory works well in the animal kingdom but breaks down in many places when applied to the human race. You cant possibly apply such a theory to people who have socialised healthcare/welfare/human rights courts etc.

    Basically what Rage said is bollocks but makes for an interesting thread <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    Diesel,

    ta means thank you and is usually at the end of a sentance. Kind of like 'cheers'

    tata is not used much any more. It means goodbye...Ive never actually heard someone say it though <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    "An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The world is a very crowded place folks...when AIDS excedes the birthrate worldwide you will then see how nature does thin out the unnecessary or redundant of the species.

    But as homosexuals don’t procreate – surely they’re the answer to the population problem and if gods doing anything to limit the population then the most humane way to do it would be to create more homosexuals!

    Can I also point out that Alan Turin was gay and as you well know he was the one who cracked the Nazis Enigma Machine. Unnecessary and redundant eh?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    if gods doing anything to limit the population then the most humane way to do it would be to create more homosexuals!

    God? Who brought god into it? We are talking about Darwin here..Darwin and God dont sit together so well.
    Alan Turin was gay and as you well know he was the one who cracked the Nazis Enigma Machine. Unnecessary and redundant eh?

    Well yes, if he didnt procreate then he was useless to the continuance of the species. You are letting political and historical issues come into this. At the very basic, animal level homosexuals are not needed to advance the human race. Same goes for infertile men and women.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Balddog:
    Well yes, if he didnt procreate then he was useless to the continuance of the species. You are letting political and historical issues come into this. At the very basic, animal level homosexuals are not needed to advance the human race. Same goes for infertile men and women.

    Thanatos, posting as berzerker:

    Well, Balddog, me thinks that you are once again taking an NON-politically correct position by pointing out that defectives are being eliminated. AIDS almost gives a reason for morality in one's life, does it not? Mother Nature may YET get what she wants...

    BTW ~ I have noticed that you possess a pair, UNLIKE many of your detractors. You even defended my right to voice an unpopular position. My respects, SIR! There may be hope for the "Empire" yet. Train up your children well; may NONE of them become the bleating sheep so rampant here...

    Frequently, this place reminds me of "Animal Farm"...

    Stay the course, Balddog, you are a breath of fresh air in the fetid barnyard...

    [This message has been edited by berzerker (edited 07-09-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes but if they aren’t useful for the continuance of the species then the way Darwinism gets rid of them is by making them infertile (which in a sense they are). It doesn’t conjure up a virus out of the blue for the specific task of getting rid of them (although if you could prove me wrong I’d be most grateful).

    That’s why I brought god up - the only way the AIDS virus could be created with the specific aim of removing the homosexual population would be by an act of god and seeing as I’ve just rubbished that theory…just rubbished that theory...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My opinions on homosexuality don’t come into this conversation berzerker or whatever your name is. I’m merely refuting the claims that the AIDS virus is an act of Darwinism using scientific facts. The truth interests me and the fact that you can’t put your opinion across without resorting to name-calling is very telling.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    What about all those others who don't contribute to the continuation of the species?? Those with inheritable genetic conditions?? Diabetes sufferers?? Haemophiliacs?? Guess we should spin a virus to take them out the game too, after all they ARE all taking up valuable medical man-hours that could be used for the Master Race.

    What, exactly, is so great about continuation of the species anyway??
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