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Friday-Monday, 31 August-3 September, 2001


1. CHILDREN TERRORISED IN CORRIDOR OR HATE
2. Trimble, Paisley discuss joint strategy
3. Bloody Sunday Tribunal resumes
4. Boy assaulted by loyalists in Newry
5. Foot and Mouth mistakes 'must not be repeated'
6. Agreement 'not a final settlement'
7. Tom Williams remembered
8. History: 26-County police state
9. Feature: Road deaths must be tackled in schools
10. Analysis: Haughey's slick sales job




>>>>>> CHILDREN TERRORISED IN CORRIDOR OR HATE


It was the first day back at school in Belfast, Alabama.

Even by loyalist standards, the scenes were unbelievable - and
unbearable.

In a gauntlet of terror, tiny young girls and their parents on
their way to school for the first day were subjected to the most
vicious sectarian intimidation and violence yesterday morning and
afternoon.

Screaming the foulest comments, a hate-distorted loyalist mob
bayed and howled in their open quest to terrify the children and
their parents. Nearer the school, bottles and stones rained
down on the children, some as young as four, who cried and
clutched their parents in absolute terror. The fear in their eyes
and faces is unmistakeable, the abuse indelible.

For the loyalists of Glenbryn estate, the presence of
nationalists bringing their girls to Holy Cross primary school
has become too much to bear. "Scum" is one of the few printable
terms of abuse that they hurled at the children, like bricks.
They believe they are better than Catholics.

The blockade and the gauntlet of abuse is likely to continue
again today. Parents are considering whether to take a detour
and bring their children to school through a back door.

Although it was Shauna McAuley's first day in Ardoyne's Holy
Cross Catholic Girls School, it may also be her last.

After braving a barrage of terrifying sectarian abuse yesterday,
little Shauna's mother vowed she would never take her daughter
back. She will not relive the nightmare.

It began at 8:30am when Catholic parents gathered at the Ardoyne
shops close to the sectarian interface they would soon cross.
Among them stood the little girls.

Some sported pigtails, others clutched brightly coloured
lunchboxes. Uniforms were cleaned and pressed for what should
have been their big day.

The families knew there would be a loyalist protest, but none
realised they would soon have to run what they later described as
a "corridor of hate".

Army vehicles kept the majority of nationalist residents back at
the top of Alliance Avenue, two or three hundred yards from the
front entrance to Holy Cross Primary School.

An assortment of loyalist paramilitary flags flew overhead as
Catholic parents took their terrified children to school for the
first day of term.

Riot screens had been erected along the road to create a "safe
corridor" to allow the children to go to school. The steel tunnel
ran for around 200 yards - but stopped well short of the Catholic
families' destination.

Only a line of RUC stood between the loyalist mob and their
passing Catholic neighbours. It was not enough.

"Bastards" and "Fenian scum" were shouted repeatedly as loyalist
spat at the parents and the cowering children.

One little six-year-old girl was reduced to tears when loyalist
protesters labelled her "Dumbo" and called her a "big-eared
bastard".

There were also calls of "Up the UVF" and "Go on the UDA" as
bottles were hurled from across the road as the children and
parents hurried through the school gates.

Parents cupped their hands over children's ears in a desperate
bid to block out the verbal onslaught.

As missiles rained in, they struggled to shelter their daughters
from shattering bottles.

But even when they reached the school, the children did not feel
safe.

One mother described how schoolgirls hid under tables in their
classrooms while loyalist protesters hurled stones, bottles and
fireworks at the school gates from the entrance of the Glenbryn
estate.

The aunt of one of the pupils suffered a head injury when she was
struck with a milk bottle. She was taken to the hospital by
ambulance and later received four staples to a head wound.

Within half an hour many parents, despite having just arrived,
took their children out of the school as it came under further
attack.

"Grown men and women were calling my children Fenian bastards and
spitting on us," said one mother.

"My daughter didn't know what a Fenian was until she heard them
shouting at us.

"I wouldn't take her back to the school now if I was paid. I
would not be able to leave her there without worrying about her
all day.

"What did a child of four or six years of age do to them?
Nothing. We were told it would be safe, but no way was that safe
- it was terrifying.

"When we were half-way up, I wanted to turn back but I couldn't
because there were so many other parents and children being
herded up behind me."

Nine-year-old Stacey McAllister's mother said: "Stacey did not
want to go to school today. All last week, she was sick and had
diarrhoea because she was terrified of going to school.

"She begged me not to make her go but I thought I had to, I had
no idea it would be that bad. I will not let her go back to the
school. I went through this in 1969 when I used to go to that
school but this is far worse. It is unbelievable."

The chairman of the board of governors at Holy Cross said he had
been horrified by the scenes.

Father Aidan Troy said: "I have been a priest for 30 years and I
have never seen anything like this and I have been in trouble
spots across the world."

TWO HOSPITALISED

Two women were treated in hospital for head wounds suffered at
the gates of the school. Both criticised the RUC for not doing
more to defend them.

Ardoyne grandmother Liz Donnelly was struck on the head with a
rock.

"The police said they would protect us but as we got closer to
the school, they said 'you have to go back, there's a mob
coming'. Then as we turned to run, I just saw something out of
the corner of my eye and I was hit. I'm not sure what it was but
it came from the other side of the army jeeps.

"As a man helped me away, the loyalists were shouting: 'There
will be a lot of you gone tonight'," she added.

Elizabeth McShane, received four staples for a head wound after
she was struck with a milk bottle,

She said she feared for her life after being knocked to the
ground at the school entrance.

"As I let go of my niece and turned at the school gates, I just
saw a bottle coming flying at me and it hit me on the head," she
said.

"The scariest thing was that when I was lying on the ground, all
I could see was people throwing bottles and stones at me. They
were trying to kill me as I lay on the ground helpless."

RUC INACTION

North Belfast Sinn Fein councillor Margaret McClenaghan hit out
at the RUC for failing to clear a way for the children to leave
the school in the afternoon, and allowing loyalists to pass
through their lines and attack parents.

"From the outset the RUC have, at best, displayed a half-hearted
attitude to dealing with the loyalists who were blocking the
children's way to school. Their inaction this afternoon
highlights the very real sectarian nature of the force. Their
ambivalence in dealing with loyalists stands in sharp contrast to
their treatment of nationalists in North Belfast."

Education minister Martin McGuinness spoke of his dismay.

"Every child should be able to travel unhindered to school and be
educated in an environment where they feel safe and secure and
ready to learn."

The minister gave his full backing to efforts to "maintain this
basic human right" for pupils.

"No children should be fearful of going to school and I would
encourage everyone with influence to work towards an immediate
resolution of this problem."

The loyalist mobs, after a second night of violence across north
Belfast, are back to take on the schoolchildren and their parents
for another day.

Meanwhile, the anguish of the Catholic parents over what to do
next for the is immense. They are being forced to choose between
their children's welfare or their human rights. For many, it is
an impossible choice.




>>>>>> Trimble, Paisley discuss joint strategy


Talks between the two main unionist parties -- David Trimble's
UUP and Ian Paisley's DUP -- suggest that the UUP no longer backs
the Good Friday Agreement, according to Sinn Fein's Minister of
Education Martin McGuinness.

The two unionist leaders have held a face-to-face meeting for the
first time since the peace deal was signed in 1998. They had a 40
minute breakfast meeting yesterday to discuss a common strategy
against policing reform. Both leaders have agreed to talk again
on Friday.

The Ulster Unionist party has still not decided a policy on the
issue of joining the new police board. The UUP is seeking
"clarification" of the British government's redrafted reform
implementation plan, which nationalists have protested falls
short of the promised Patten reforms.

Meanwhile, the hardline anti-Agreement DUP is calling for
unionists to unite and boycott the policing board until the
package is "acceptable to the unionist community". UUP MPs David
Burnside and Jeffrey Donaldson have already supported the DUP
statement.

In light of David Trimble's latest shift away from the GFA, Sinn
Fein's Mid Ulster MP has attacked his failure to work to cement
the peace process. Martin McGuinness told reporters in Dungiven,
County Derry, that the British government's refusal to implement
in full the Patten proposals, together with a hardening of
attitudes within the Ulster Unionist Party against the Good
Friday Agreement, had damaged the peace deal.

Mr McGuinness said: "I believe that David Trimble's party is not
a pro-agreement party. I believe they are anti-agreement and it
is absolutely essential that the British government recognises
that.

"I actually believe that the Good Friday agreement, and it pains
me greatly to say it, has been holed below the waterline in a
number of areas in relation to David Trimble's attack on the
institutions, on his refusal to accept the full implementation of
Patten and the British government's capitulation to that and, of
course, the refusal of the British government to demilitarise
right throughout the North and to fully implement the Patten
proposals.

"We are dealing with a unionist party that has effectively seen a
coup d'etat.

"As far as we are concerned within the nationalist/republican
constituency, the person who now leads the Ulster Unionist Party
is not David Trimble, it's Jeffrey Donaldson, it's Burnside and
it's the anti-agreement element who appear to be now more keen to
join forces with the rejectionist DUP than they are about fully
implementing an agreement that their party signed up to in 1998
on Good Friday."

He said it was up to the two governments to realise the urgency
of the situation and initiate new talks.

"They are sitting on their hands and they need to get off their
hands and get back round the table and sort this out," he said.

The SDLP has already declared its support for the new
arrangements, which have been rejected by Sinn Fein. Alban
Maginness, SDLP assembly member for north Belfast, said it would
be "tragic" if the UUP failed to back the new arrangements.

Sinn Fein has accused the SDLP of "jumping too soon" in its
decision to join the Policing Boards while the issue of policing
remains unresolved.





>>>>>> Bloody Sunday Tribunal resumes


The public inquiry into the 1972 Bloody Sunday massacre has
resumed in Derry's Guildhall after the summer recess.

More than 270 civilian witnesses have already given evidence at
the inquiry into the events of Sunday, January 30th, 1972, when
British soldiers shot dead 13 unarmed civil rights demonstratos
and wounded many more, one of whom died later.

The tribunal is chaired by Lord Saville, William Hoyt from Canada
and Mr John Toohey from Australia. Over the summer, a fourth
reserve judge ended his involvment in the inquiry for personal
reasons and will not be replaced.

Further eyewitness evidence was heard yesterday on the victims
who were shot by British soldiers in the vicinity of a barricade
in Rossville Street.

A witness yesterday described how 17-year-old victim Hugh Gilmour
passed within feet of him in Rossville Street just seconds before
he died. Mr Don Carlin said that during the firing by the
soldiers he sheltered just inside the entrance door to Block 1 of
the Rossville Flats. He noticed Hugh Gilmour running past,
heading south along Rossville Street.

He continued: "As he passed he said to me `I am hit, Don, I'm
hit'. He ran past the door to Block 1 and went around the corner
. . . I now know that he fell there and died."

The witness said he then went upstairs inside Block 1 and came
across another victim, 17-year-old Kevin McElhinney, lying on his
back on the first landing. It was obvious to him that the
teenager was dead.

Mr Carlin, who lived in Block 2 of the flats, decided to return
there to check that his wife and children were OK. He crawled
along the balcony on his stomach to the doorway of his flat.

He said he was certain that no nail bombs or petrol bombs were
thrown on the day, and he was not aware of any being in the area.

The inquiry continues today, with legal submissions concerning
applications for anonymity on behalf of five former members of
the breakaway "Official IRA".




>>>>>> Boy assaulted by loyalists in Newry



Fourteen-year-old Stephen Mathers, from Greenfield Park, Newry
was viciously assaulted during a loyalist band parade in the town
on Friday evening, 24 August.

Describing how he was attacked by two men taking part in the
parade, Stephen said: "They just ran at us. My friends got away
but I was not so lucky. I curled up into a ball to protect myself
but they still kicked away at me. At one stage when one of the
flute bands saw what was happening, they dropped their flutes and
came over to join in."

Stephen's mother said she was horrified when she saw her son
arriving home covered in blood and bruises.

Stephen's parents have said they will be contacting the Parades
Commission to urge them to investigate this incident. They said:
"A young 14 year old boy, full of curiosity, stops for a moment
to watch a band parade and is viciously attacked by loyalist
thugs taking part in the parade. Questions have to be asked of
the organisers. Where were the stewards? Will the flute band
whose members broke ranks and joined in this attack be banned
from any future parades?"

Sinn Fein councillor Charlie Casey, who visited the boy's home,
said he was appalled to see his injuries. "This was an unprovoked
sectarian attack by loyalist bigots who demand year after year to
march through the predominately nationalist town of Newry," he
said. "Their behaviour is nothing short of triumphalism and
totally unacceptable to the local population. It is bad enough
that residents of this area have to endure the disruption caused
to their daily lives by these unwanted loyalist band parades
without having to suffer physical attacks as well."





>>>>>> Foot and Mouth mistakes 'must not be repeated'



Sinn Fein West Tyrone MP Pat Doherty has called on Agriculture
minister Brid Rodgers to adopt a 'Fortress Ireland' approach to
the latest outbreaks of Foot and Mouth disease in England.

In a new resurgence of the animal livestock disease, a flurry of
new cases have pushed the number of farms infected this year in
Britain to over 2000. Agriculture and tourism in Britain was
decimated by the disease earlier this summer.

Large-scale animal culls have returned to Northumberland in
northern England, and there are fears that the disease could
ignite once again lead to the disease returning to Ireland.

"The latest outbreak of Foot and Mouth in England is extremely
worrying," said Doherty. "I would call on Brid Rodgers to meet
immediately with her counterpart in the 26 Counties, Joe Walsh,
and to adopt a 'Fortress Ireland' approach to ensure that the
disease does not spread to Ireland.

"Brid Rodgers must make sure that the mistakes which allowed the
disease to spread to Ireland during the last outbreak are not
repeated this time around."





>>>>>> Agreement `not a final settlement'



Looking around the Irish Labour History Museum in the former army
base at Beggars Bush Barracks, Sinn Fein's Jim Gibney expressed
the hope that the day would come when British bases in Ireland
would serve a similarly useful purpose as the hosting of the
Thirteenth Desmond Greaves Summer School.

Greaves will be familiar to many republicans as the author of
books like 'The Life and Times of James Connolly' and 'Liam
Mellows and the Irish Revolution'. Over a career spanning several
decades, Greaves edited the Connolly Association's newspaper, The
Irish Democrat, and was a prolific radical socialist-republican
writer and historian.

Jim Gibney was speaking at the closing lecture of this year's
school, titled 'Modern Republicanism From the Hunger-Strike to
the Good Friday Agreement: An Evaluation'. Recently suspended
ATGWU secretary Mick O'Reilly was also scheduled to speak but the
organisers reported that on legal advice he would not be taking
part following the controversial ban on making public appearances
placed on him by the union's British leadership.

In a speech that was at times moving, Gibney outlined the debt
owed by people, not just in Ireland, to the sacrifices of the
hunger-strikers of 1981:

"In my opinion the hunger strike of 1981 changed fundamentally
the republican struggle. Those who died on hunger strike not only
set a new moral frame or context from which everything else
derived, they propelled the struggle forward into a new arena;
they strengthened the struggle at a time when it was under
pressure.

"They inflicted both a moral and a political defeat on Margaret
Thatcher and continue to inspire republicans all over Ireland. In
fact, Bobby Sands became an icon for oppressed peoples all over
the world. And he still is. The prisoners in Turkish jails who
are on hunger strike at the minute told two ex-prisoners a few
weeks ago that Bobby Sands was their hero and they drew strength
from him."

Gibney went on to say: "When the year was over it was obvious to
the leadership that an electoral strategy was needed. The
prisoners gave us the courage to open up this front. That meant a
party has to be built. It was no longer good enough for Sinn Fein
to be a party of protest on the outside. It had to build as an
effective and real party and it had to bring its protest politics
into the system. As I speak, that might sound reasonably
straightforward. Back then it was a huge shift."

The Summer School typically attracts a fairly broad spectrum of
opinion from the Irish socialist and republican traditions and
this year was no exception. Following Jim Gibney's warmly
received speech, a question and answer session followed, with
many of the speakers criticising elements of the Good Friday
Agreement.

There was some dissatisfaction expressed at Sinn Fein's role in
the Stormont Executive which was, Gibney asserted, in large part
down to the party 'not blowing its own trumpet' on the issue
enough as to what it had accomplished since Martin McGuinness and
Bairbre de Brun took office. He pointed out that in the first
hundred days of the Executive, Martin McGuinness has spent more
on integrated education than the British government did over the
last 30 years and that the party was hampered in what it could do
by the fact that the Executive was essentially a coalition.

He also repeatedly stressed the point that no republican
seriously considered the Good Friday Agreement as a final
settlement. "The Good Friday Agreement is not a settlement, it is
an interim political arrangement," he said. "The only settlement
that will be acceptable to republicans is one that brings about
the unification and independence of Ireland. It is not over, and
it will not be over until we achieve that."

Gibney's lecture was but the last in a series that had gone on
throughout the weekend, dealing with a range of issues from
economic unity in Ireland to globalisation to democracy in the
European Union.

Thirteen years since his death, C Desmond Greaves continues to be
a name synonymous with informed debate and discussion of radical
alternatives to the status quo and this year's school underlined
the commitment of the organisers to those principles.




>>>>>>> Tom Williams remembered


Hundreds of people includung scores of former POWs gathered at
Milltown cemetery on Sunday to commemorate the burial of
republican Tom Williams.

Williams was hanged in Crumlin Road jail on September 2 1942 for
his involvement in the sturggle against British rule. He was
buried on unconsecrated ground within the jail.

After 57 years of campaigning, his remains were exhumed last year
and buried beside his mother in Milltown cemetery.

A piper and representatives of the National Graves Association
led the procession around the cemetery, where a wreath was laid
at Williams's grave.

Ex-prisoner associations from west Belfast marched behind Liam
Shannon and Brigid Hanna from the National Graves Association.

Sinn Fein councillor Tom Hartley spoke at the commemoration,
saying the time should be used to reflect on Williams's life and
reflect on the cause for which he gave his life.

"The manner of his death reflects the struggle in which he was a
part. For our generation, Tom today represents a beacon of light
in the history of our community, our society and in the history
of our country," he said.

Five other IRA Volunteers were also sentenced to death but all
received last-minute reprieves.

Republican veteran Joe Cahill, now aged 80, who was sentenced
along with Williams was one of the hundreds of people who
gathered at the ceremony. He spoke of the pride he felt to
commemorate his friend.

"It was heart warming to see so many turn out to remember Tom. It
was a real struggle to get him buried here but the National
Graves Association worked very hard to get him out. It wasn't the
grave we originally wanted him to be in but he is buried with his
mother," he said.

Liam Shannon of the National Graves Association said the day was
important as it brought everybody together to remember what
Williams had done for the republican movement.

"We are delighted with the turn out and especially with the
ex-prisoners turning up and showing solidarity with the National
Graves Association," he said.





>>>>>> History: 26-County police state



During 1976, the Dublin government declared a 'State of
Emergency' in the 26 Counties. The Fine Gael/Labour coalition,
widely recognised as the most repressive Irish administration
since the Second World War, introduced an array of repressive
security and censorship legislation aimed at crushing
republicanism in the Southern state.

The new weapons in the state's armoury, the Emergency Powers Act
and the Criminal Law Jurisdiction Act (CLJA), completed the
transformation of the Irish legal, political and media systems
into mere adjuncts of Britain's counterinsurgency strategy on the
island as a whole, a process which began four years earlier under
Fianna Fail.

The Criminal Law Jurisdiction Act (CLJA) was passed in 1976,
allowing the 26-County courts to try defendants on charges
allegedly committed outside the state. The target was, of course,
republicans who had carried out acts of resistance against
British occupation in the Six Counties. The CLJA ensured the
continued survival of the non-jury Special Court, originally
introduced as a temporary measure.

Political censorship in the form of Section 31 of the
Broadcasting Act, already used to dramatic effect in November
1972 when Gerry Collins sacked the entire RTE Authority for
broadcasting an interview with IRA leader Sean Mac Stiofain, was
strengthened by Conor Cruise O'Brien. Sinn Fein members could not
be interviewed on RTE no matter what the subject. It was to be
almost two decades before the Act was allowed to lapse.

The activities of the Garda Heavy Gang demonstrated the new
levels of corruption that characterised the Irish criminal
justice sytem. Allegations soared that Garda detectives were
torturing republican suspects in custody. The activities of the
Heavy Gang inevitably led to wrongful convictions, most notably
in the Sallins mail train robbery case.

1976 marked a violent and overt onslaught by the 26-County state
on the physical, political and intellectual manifestations of
Irish republicanism. It underlined the political bankrupcy of the
Irish political elite and established the status quo for the
following two decades.

The Dublin government declared its 'state of emergency' on 1
September 1976, 25 years ago this week.





>>>>>> Feature: Road deaths must be tackled in schools


MICHAEL PIERSE praises recent efforts to heighten awareness about
the dangers on the roads, but as this year's death toll rises,
with young people the most likely to die, he argues that
organised driving instruction and road awareness training is
needed in post-primary schools



With the seasonal spate of road deaths that the holiday exodus
and associated heavy consumption of alcohol generally entails,
there has been renewed focus in recent weeks on one of Ireland's
most common and horrific killers.

Every year we see the scrunched-up remains of crashed cars and
hear of the ill-fated final hours of their occupants: a teenager
who sped home with the news of dazzling Leaving Cert results; a
young man after a Saturday night's drinking who decided that
taking the risk was favourable to walking five miles home;
someone who died because they forgot to wear their seat belt;
pedestrians mown down on dark country roads. The most common
fatality profile is young, rural and male.

There has been more than one death per day on the roads in
Ireland this year. According to statistics published by the
26-County Roads Authority, almost one quarter of all road
fatalities are in the 18-24 age group, and three quarters of all
fatalities are male. Young people in the border counties are
seven to eight times more likely to be killed on the roads than
their counterparts in Dublin.

However, recent 26-County statistics suggest that there are some,
consistent, glimmerings of hope. 1997 saw a highpoint in road
deaths - approaching the 500 figure - after which the Dublin
government pledged to take action. To be fair, they did. In a
three-year period (2000 statistics are the most recent figures
available) a 12 per cent reduction has been achieved in road
deaths, while serious injuries have gone down by 15 per cent. The
26-County government road strategy, which is implemented by the
National Safety Council (NSC), seems on course for its stated
target of a 20 per cent reduction in fatalities by the end of
2002.

The multi-faceted approach pursued by the NSC is obviously
impacting in a major way, with the central tenets of publicity,
education and legal measures at its heart, although the strategy
may need some expansion in coming years.

The propaganda element of the NSA's campaign (in conjunction with
the Six-County Department of the Environment) has been central to
its success. The graphic and violent nature of TV adverts such as
'Damage' and 'Shame' has not only been breathtaking but is
demonstrably effective.

According to an IMS survey, seven out of every ten young Irish
adults say they are more concerned about wearing a seat belt
after seeing 'Damage', the latest seat belt ad showing on both
sides of the border.

The highly-impacting advert depicts a young, carefree, couple
heading out in their friends' car. They sit in the back seat.
When the car crashes, the young man's failure to wear a seat belt
results in his head colliding with that of his girfriend, killing
her on impact. As with other, similar adverts, 'Damage' is styled
to portray an everyday situation that ends, very brutally, in
tragedy.

Initial surveys carried out in the Six Counties have revealed
that nine out of every ten respondents between the ages of 16 and
35 admit to being "influenced a lot" by the advert. Eight out of
ten said that they talked about the ad with their friends and
family, while six out of ten had encouraged someone they knew to
wear a seat belt as a result of seeing it.

Surveys conducted in the Six Counties by Ulster Marketing Surveys
and in the 26 Counties by IMS have revealed that the advert
'Shame' has also left a considerable dint on the Irish psyche.

'Shame' flashes between a series of interlinked scenes, depicting
a typical Saturday afternoon's activities for both a young man
and a young boy. Returning home, overjoyed after a successful
match, the young man goes for a quick pint with his friends, then
loses control of his car, which flips sideways into a garden. The
child is crushed beneath it. The camera focuses in on the young
man. "Could you live with the shame?" a voice asks.

Following the advert's showing on both sides of the border, it
was revealed that six out of ten Irish respondents now believe
that if you drink any alcohol at all it will affect your driving.
This is an increase of 13 per cent on the figure taken before the
ad was shown.

Such initiatives are not only cost effective in terms of saving
life and limb - their economic benefit, if it is not too cynical
to note, is staggering. It is estimated that for every #1 spent
on road safety, the accumulated savings in terms of insurance,
garda investigations, road maintenance etc, is as high as eight
times that amount. According to the 1999 yearly review of road
safety in the 26 Counties, carried out by the NSA:
"Implementation of the (26-County Road Safety) Strategy will give
rise to very significant net economic benefits; over the period
of implementation, 1998-2002, the benefit cost ratio is estimated
at 4.5:1, rising to an annual cost ratio of 8.3:1 post-2002."

Of particular concern is the much higher likelihood of road
fatalities among young people, particularly males, in rural
areas. Why such an inordinate amount of these deaths occurs in
the border area may be revealed in the area's socio-economic
profile. Unlike Dublin and much of the East and Southeast region,
jobs are scarce in the border area and poverty is much more
pervasive. Coupled with the sparsity of population and an
inadequate public transport system, young people are more likely
to be involved in reckless driving. Why?

First, there is the difference in what a car represents to a
young rural male. It is a symbol of affluence and freedom,
heralding the beginning of adulthood, the opportunity to escape
from boredom and travel further afield. As is the case with drink
or drugs, young people, when not fully educated or aware of the
dangers posed by some new experience, will often test their
limits to devastating effect. Personal transport is often
liberating in rural areas, but young men, eager to show off and
with little other option in terms of transport home after a night
out, will take chances. They have the opportunity to drive, with
God knows what previous instruction, and a six-month waiting
period, minimum, before they can get a driving test. What results
is carnage.

While snazzy TV ads are effective, nothing can substitute actual,
hands-on experience, such as is available to high school students
in the US. 'Drivers' Education' - which comprises instruction
and, most vitally, awareness raising in terms of the dangers
involved in driving - is a standard element in the formal
education system in the United States. It educates young people
on the effects different levels of alcohol and drugs have on
their judgement, the effects of weather conditions on their
driving, and affords them the opportunity to get some practical
experience of handling a car.

As Drivers' Education is a prerequisite to every application for
a driving license, the net effect is to ensure that drivers are
better trained and more aware before they take their potentially
lethal vehicles onto the roads.

While efforts to combat drink-driving here have worked and other
elements of the current government strategy have been effective,
the US experience points to one, gaping shortfall in the Irish
experience.

It is essential, as part of any cogent strategy on road deaths,
that the gap between driving novice and driving disaster be
bridged.





>>>>>> Analysis: Haughey's slick sales job

BY ROBBIE MacGABHANN



Yes he is. No he isn't. Yes he is, but not quite yet. Isn't it
very telling that ten years after being forced from office and in
the wake of three different tribunals that have left his
political integrity shattered, we still have former Irish Prime
Minister, Charlie Haughey putting susceptible journalists through
the hoops.

Last weekend, the Sunday Independent started the ball rolling
with the scoop news that Haughey was selling his Abbeville estate
for #30 million. Then he was going to pay his outstanding tax
debts, even though it is as yet unclear as to how large they
actually are, and retire to France as a tax exile. Haughey would
divide his time between a new residence in France and Ireland,
having the right to stay in Abbeville until his death.

If that wasn't incredible enough, Haughey, who only a few short
months ago was so ill with a terminal disease that he could not
be publicly grilled by the Moriarty Tribunal, had, we were
reliably informed, conducted the entire negotiations himself.

As the story was sluicing through papers and news bulletins, who
should pop up in the news but the bould Charlie, on his annual
jaunt of starting the Dingle Regatta. Now we had a nice PR
glimpse of the disgraced Taoiseach, but perhaps not so disgraced,
as the media coverage of the possible Abbeville sale has been
generally positive.

It has been clear from all of Haughey's public dealings with
tribunals over the past few years that he couldn't care less what
the public or anybody, for that matter, think of him. What does
he care about then? Well the one obvious clue from his life of
spending is money. What Haughey fears most is not having any, and
the sale of Abbeville would, even with tax payments, leave him
quite comfortable by any definition.

The idea has now been publicly floated, so when the actual sale
is concluded, and which many media sources tell us is bound by a
confidentiality clause, we will be well used to the notion that
Haughey is once again getting away with it.

Surely now is the time for the Dublin government to empower the
Moriarty Tribunal to make Haughey surrender his passport and
freeze all of his assets until we know just how much money he
received and how much of the tax code and other laws were broken
over his years in political office.

Perhaps the first question would be where did he get the money to
buy Abbeville in the first place?


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Diesel,

    Ive posted my comments on this issue in the 'Ardoyne School dispute' thread and again on our other home forum.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Balddog...I did read your post, touched, honestly!

    We have been geting quite a bit of footage on our news programs showing the nightmare of the little girls.

    And I must say...for all...the officers protecting these children do appear to be acting honorably and as correctly as the circumstances will allow...there be heroes there among those men if you can see it!

    How can grown men act this way and expect peace? The I R A would be utter fools to stand down and decomission their weapons in the face of such....

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Diesel, instead of posting extremely long posts, can you just write up a brief summery instead as no one wants to spend 20 minutes reading one posting.

    [This message has been edited by Steelgate (edited 06-09-2001).]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Unless they are diatribes on the evils of capitilism and the greatness of socialism, eh?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Diesel, a question for you to answer:

    What sort of people throw stones etc at children and what sort of people drag children through that in order to score propaganda points ?

    My answer is, in both cases MORONIC SCUM.

    What you are not seeing is the rest of the schoolkids getting there without any problems by using the main route to school instead of taking the shortcut through this area.

    The only people coming out of this well are the people protecting the children the ARMY and POLICE.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There is a big difference though, that is the children have a right to use the front entrance. The protesters do not have a right to threaten people with violence.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Diesel would it not be intresting to see the amount of children who have been injured or killed in the last 30 years as the result of the IRA terror campaign. I bet it's a few more deaths and injuries than the Loyalists have inflicted. I'm not saying it makes what's goin on now ok, just that both sides are as bad as each other.

    I don't know what your love affair with the IRA is about but anyone who supports violent terrorists who aim to kill innocent civillians has got to be sick. You seem to have the impression that ther'ye a great bunch of chaps but anyone who has the ability to plant a bomb not knowing who it's going to kill, man ,woman or child, has got to be evil.

    One thing these events may prove to you though is that the British Army and the RUC are there to protect the people, both protestant and catholic, and not to enforce rule upon the people. We are there to keep the peace which I must say is made very hard when the country contains such scum as you've been seeing on the news.

    - Skive
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wouldn't want to exclude the RUC from the 'scum' tag. All the violent astards are scum. And who's braver, a guy who leaves a bomb in a bin or a soldier who shoots unarmed protesters on a sunday?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My support for the IRA is simple (no, I am not catholic).

    They are fighting the english occupation of a part of their country...the matter is easily settled if you allow both sides all of the arms they want and get out of the way as an occupying force.

    My own family, Acadian French from Nova Scotia (Acadia), Canada, deported enmasse by the english after the F&I War, today known as Cajun in Louisiana, USA, after we were ordered disarmed by the english and had to helplessly watch families split up, children, women, men divided into 'cargo' for the ships and barges sent for our removal...we have been geting our licks in ever since, starting by fighting in the US Revolutionary War, and later in 1813/14 during the battle of New Orleans...we were the rifelmen behind the cotten bales cuting down the red coats...two weeks after the war was over!

    Old wars make for interesting relationships...all the worst that is coming to US appears to have its origin in england...subjects just don't get it, we don't intend to be like them...if the IRA want guns and equipment they are guranteed a ready source in US they need merely come and get it.

    We, US, see british socialism as bad or worse than anything that Hitler's Germany did or professed...and you have the same socialistic form of government which probably explains it...ought to be calling yourselves the 'Social Nationalist English People's Party' or something close...this is not a flame...just an obversation of our viewpoint.

    As for the young girls going to school...the troops/police acted heroically to protect them...I was personally impressed, maybe it was just the presence of the media cameras but I am inclined to think not...OTOH were the occupation troops out it is unlikely that the provos would have been so willing to bring down the wrath of hell upon their own heads for such conduct.

    Sadly, such violence must continue until the participants tire of it and outsiders cease to egg it on in order to keep their own people's attention off the corruption at home...much as US kept Viet Nam war going for the same purpose...and for a profit!

    Balddog, just reread you post on the other site...it is easy to see that this business has really gotten to you...imagine how it must also be affecting others of 'the ol pirate nation' and her colonies! Best wishes.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    My support for the IRA is simple (no, I am not catholic).

    They are fighting the english occupation of a part of their country...the matter is easily settled if you allow both sides all of the arms they want and get out of the way as an occupying force.


    Yes, indeed they are fighting. But you are forgetting a rather big point. It isnt their country. Northern Ireland is British territory, it has been for many hundreds of years and will continue to be so for many to come. The IRA are terrorists, plain and simple. In the same way as you Americans see Osama Bin Laden. All the IRA is doing is to enrage the British Public even more. What will happen is that the Army declares marshall law once more, restricting all liberties the people in Northern Ireland have. Or, what I would personally like to see happen is for the army and police to search for members of the IRA and shoot them on sight, with no chance of a trial. It is what the terrorist pigs deserve.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Then extend the same courtesy to the Unionist 'terrorist scumbags'.

    I HATE to agree with them two, but it is nearly always the Orangemen who cause the problems- they INSIST on marching through Catholic areas singing 'Catholic scum', but then throw PIPE BOMBS at 5 year old girls.

    The IRA shhould stay armed otherwise the nationalists will be destroyed within five years. Its not as if the Unionists are decomissioning.

    It matters not who won or lost, but how you place the blame.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    An armed society IS a polite society.

    I am not suggesting unrestricted gun ownership so that both sides can have a go at it...I AM suggesting that if everyone has access to personal firearms all parties will be much more cautious about harming someone, lest that someone shoot back. Given a couple of decades after that you will see good neighbors living together.

    Wanting to 'shoot' them all is perfectly natural...but it's been tried and you didn't get them all, instead they multiplied on both sides.

    Get england out of NI and much good will come of it.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Shut the fuck up about England. Northern Ireland has been part of the United Kingdom since the Act of Union in 1800. Ok, there are only descendants of the Scots (mainly), Welsh (in my case) and English because of the plantations, but that gives us no less right to live here in peace. By the same token, the indigenous irish catholics have every right to live in peace as well. Both extremist camps are scum. Violence is never (or should never be) the answer. It seems all the optimisn of a few weeks ago, when we seemed to be getting moves on decommissioning, has faded away to nothing. It's like the early 70s all over again, albeit, thankfully) minus the full scale bombing campaigns.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Diesel, the protestants in Ulster have lived there for generations they consider Ireland just as much their home as the catholics do. Only a small minority of them take part in the violence anyway so why should they all have to get out. Most of the protestants don't want violence they want to live in peace. Why don't you just have a go at the people who are being violent.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Cos that would be too simple. A small minority of loyalists are always intent on causing trouble, but Britain pulling out of Ireland would solve nothing. Neither would the yanks' arm-a-toddler campaign- both sides have pipe bombs, doesnt stop them getting thrown.

    It matters not who won or lost, but how you place the blame.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As I watch both sides speak (on TV) and look at the children of either side...the one fact that is impressed upon me is that if they were mixed up in a room and no one knew who whas what...it would be impossible to tell them apart.

    The problem in NI remains the english troops...simply get out and let the sides police themselves...they will...if 'orangemen' march through a 'catholic' neighborhood...and are fired upon for the insult...with machineguns and grenades...maybe a mortar or three...they aren't likely to do it again...not much different from the KKK marching through a jewish neighborhood in US...!

    And I have an odd question for someone that might know. Because the unionist or provos speak with an Irish brogue...do they also speak Gaelic? Not a firvilous question...I simply don't know.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Interesting picture in the papers this morning. Little girl of what looks like 3 or 4 blowing a whistle when the catholic kids walk past. I dont hold out much hope when 4 year old kids are being taught to hate.

    The protestants arent protesting violently anymore. They are blowing whistles and using Klaxons to put up a massive wall of noise to show their protest.
    The problem in NI remains the english troops...simply get out and let the sides police themselves

    What a marvellous idea..We would now have dozens of dead catholic schoolgirls lying in the street with their parents lying alongside. We would have a blast bomb going off amongst the girls instead of the RUC..Well done Diesel, thats a classic suggestion.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Baldog <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sadly, in every war some innocents must fall...I'm planning another post with a different but related question.

    Pass out FAL 7.62X51 rifles to anyone one either side that wants one...or more...give them all the ammunition they need...maybe require that they practice on the same ranges...the guns are there already...make oficially ok...I doubt that we would see a blood bath of small children...they would use other means to get to school...orangemen would not likely march and face liberty's teeth...and the world would be rid of a lot of surplus military weapons...that are suddenly commissioned in civilian hands.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sadly, in every war some innocents must fall...

    Ive been thinking about the arming of the Irish people today and I still think that arming everyone is an awful idea..However, if they had all been armed in the first place then we wouldnt have so much trouble now. People would still have their divisions but they wouldnt be willing to lob bombs at kids.

    Unfortunately they were disarmed in the past(both sides) which means that unless both sides get weapons then the violence will go on.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Balddog:
    What a marvellous idea..We would now have dozens of dead catholic schoolgirls lying in the street with their parents lying alongside. We would have a blast bomb going off amongst the girls instead of the RUC..Well done Diesel, thats a classic suggestion.

    Maybe. Or maybe it'd give the Irish a chance to work things out and find solutions as one people. We won't know as long as the English remain, will we?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    An armed society IS a polite society.

    Fatuous yank twat. Preaching about how glorious the 'revolutionaries' are and yet most of your posts show that you don't have a clue what the reality of the Irish problem is. Your countrymen continue to support terrorists yet condemn Syria, Libya etc for support Bin Laden (although with his wad of cash that's not necessary!).

    Isn't this whole process a little reminiscent of the deep south in the 60s. I KNOW you are old enough to remember that. I'm sure that Gov. Walaace wasn't so sure that an armed socitey is polite - especially when the bullet took away his ability to walk.

    What the loyalists have done is beyond contempt, of that I have no doubt. But don't presume that this is in anyway worse than blowing up two innocent schoolboys in Warrington, UK - something that the IRA did just a few years ago. Perhaps you could also remember the children killed at Omagh too. Prat.

    'A few innocents', you say - do you have children? Would you be happy to see them die from a terrorists bomb? Do you believe that your loss is acceptable just to support some crazy's notion of freedom?


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Man of Kent, yes, I do have childre and grand children...and wouldn't hesitate to shoot any worthless sob that laid or tried to lay a hand on any of them...and that is the point exactly.

    The observation whas an ironic one...not one in which moral and decent people can take pleasure in.

    I was in the CSA South during the 60's...the man who shot Wallace was a deranged white man who is still in prison...he could as easily have used a knife and done the same damage. George Wallace was a brave man who took a stand based upon belief and principle...right or wrong you must respect him.

    The US South was an interesting place in the 60's...had they been left alone folks would still like each other down there today...all the agitators did was spread a lot of hate and moved thousands of black folks North to the welfare lines and 'da hood' for a dying for experience.

    But on that same point, most black families in the South are armed as are most white folks...liberals are justly despised by both but our 'democratic' party goes on selling its bill of goods...and with US almost broke it don't wash!

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Diesel... Perhaps the United States should invade Britain, colonize them, put them under OUR law, rape THEIR country of its resources (assuming that they might be discovered), and THEN twats like "Man of Kent" might understand... Afterall, they are too ignorant to rule themselves, and require our stabilizing "influence"... <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    AYE! There's an idea!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nah, we have enough folks on the dole already; as an alternitive to invasion we could offer Ireland statehood though...so many Irish folk already in US so it would sell here...the IRA members probably qualify for employment with the US Marshal's Service!

    england has been invading US for years...the largest foreign investor in US is england!

    With all the Packistanians in UK the supply of personal weapons is increasing...with good machines it is amazing what they can copy...even improve upon.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    Nah, we have enough folks on the dole already; as an alternitive to invasion we could offer Ireland statehood though...

    OO-RAH!!!

    (edit) Perhaps call it "East Massachusetts"? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    Man of Kent, yes, I do have childre and grand children...and wouldn't hesitate to shoot any worthless sob that laid or tried to lay a hand on any of them...and that is the point exactly.

    Your earlier post said that 'Sadly...some innocents must fall...", implying an 'oh well never mind' attitude. That sucks. That was MY point, that you condemn the prpods for shouting and whistling at children but defend the IRA for killing them - I just considered it a sick irony.
    I was in the CSA South during the 60's...the man who shot Wallace was a deranged white man who is still in prison...he could as easily have used a knife and done the same damage.

    You could say the same about any sniper really. Kind of difficult to do it from that disctance though...
    George Wallace was a brave man who took a stand based upon belief and principle...right or wrong you must respect him.

    I never criticised Gov Wallace, I merely pointed out that he might not have been enamoured with your 'polite society' as you are.

    I DO respect him. He stood up for his beliefs (howeber misguided) against unprecedented opposition. That takes balls.

    As I have siad numerous times before just because I disagree with someones views doesn't mean I can't respect him.

    As for the invasion, fine come on over better your than the socialist hordes from Europe...

    Besides, if your laws are as great as y'all seem to believe you might actually be doing us a favour, at least we could lose the monarchy then...and have a actor as head of state instead.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Man Of Kent, please indulge me. What is a "Fatuous yank twat? Really, I have no idea...and please, I'm not a 'yank' a confederate, yes!

    Don't for a second think that I would indulge approving harm coming to anyone's children...even those of my enemey are recognized for being the precious tiny souls they are...that harm does come to them is truly tragic, most tragic for them.

    Yeah, kind of funny, we, US, went from a president that was acting to an actor that was president...and he managed to spend more money than ALL the US presidents combined...folks still love him...I'm not so sure...never cared much for folks changing sides...Regan went from commie in college to democrat and finally became a republican...maybe Darwin was right and he was just 'evolving' to reach his destiny.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:


    As for the invasion, fine come on over better your than the socialist hordes from Europe...

    Besides, if your laws are as great as y'all seem to believe you might actually be doing us a favour, at least we could lose the monarchy then...and have a actor as head of state instead.

    Naw. We're speculating on offering IRELAND to become a state. Want NOTHING to do with anexing Britain. Give Ireland the opportunity to savor REAL freedom, as their ideals are FAR closer than the average Brit's to what constitutes freedom. See what happens in NI when the Protestants cannot tug the skirts of the crown. Free election for the WHOLE of the island.
    (ps ~ I am a Baptist myself, as in PROTESTANT. Does NOT mean that I cannot objectively judge and come to a position contrary to my stated beliefs. I respect the freedom of choice as to how one worships, but see this MORE as a case of IMPERIALISM.)

    (pps ~ OBVIOUSLY, this whole diatribe is tongue in cheek! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; )

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