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Too Politically Correct?
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TOO POLITICALLY CORRECT?
I think so, i'm all for equal rights but kids aren't even allowed to say baa baa black sheep, its only a sheep that happens to be black, and your not allowed to say black board, but what happens if u say white board or white sheep....not alot? It's rediculous. they are only colours nothing is meant by it.
What do you think?
I think so, i'm all for equal rights but kids aren't even allowed to say baa baa black sheep, its only a sheep that happens to be black, and your not allowed to say black board, but what happens if u say white board or white sheep....not alot? It's rediculous. they are only colours nothing is meant by it.
What do you think?
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But, to a point I agree with you.
No camera's at school nativity plays.
Boots not printing your pictures and destroying the film if you have pictures of naked children in them.
Sorry to sound insulting and preach-ey but: Your Profile.
People have to use their commen sense.
I mean, when schools ban parents from attending egg & spoon races because kids who don't win "might be traumatised" by losing in front of their parents you know some people have lost the plot completely.
i agree completely, are these kids going to grow up having tatrums or nervous breakdowns when something doesn't go their way? crazy people:crazyeyes
Most of the tabloids are happy to advertise those tacky compensation firms whilst complaining when schools ban playtime because they are worried that the parents may sue if thier kid gets injured.
I also take issue with constant reports of people suing for silly reasons but you rarely hear the verdict which in most cases I would imagine would end up with the silly person getting nothing.
You might see it as good that more people have access to tghe legal system, there is nothing sinister about silly, greedy people you only have to worry if they start having results which I haven't seen proved..........
About the sueing issue - at my school they've painted all the kerbs, edges of steps, rails etc. bright yellow. My guess is so that if kids fall, the school is covered. Another ingenious waste of money on cosmetic, pointless changes by the Head.
You can't smother children in cotton wool, they're going to lose a race and they're going to fall over infront of their friends at some point - it's called life. The things people sue over these days - fucking ridiculous.
Kids are allowed to say Baa Baa Black sheep!!! I would let my kids say it...its a song.
What Is wrong is if a kid says it in a derogatory way to put down someone who is black.
thats all.
If the intention behind your words is to denegrate another race or colour religion or sex then you are being a twat. If you are just singing a song then who cares.
If you are doing or saying something to cause deliberate offence then you are a twat...and why the hell would you want to!
Little kids in the park shout swear words because they think 'oldies' like me will be embarrassed or offended...I just marvel at their lack of language skills. I'm not going to tell them off for shouting fuck. However - if they attacked me with words and yelled' you ugly fucking bitch' i'd have them by the ears and take them to their parents for an apology!
Who on earth on these boards would actively encourage their kids to be offensive!?
If I was a mother at that school Id make myself heard, its all about taking part and if our school cancelled sports day then I wouldnt be able to show myself up in the Mums race
About not being allowed to say words, can anyone remember golliwogs? I had one when I was a kid and now we cant call them that purely because it could be classed as racial, but a golliwog is a bloody toy for gawds sake which were around for many years before they said " No you cant call them that"
The thing is that whoever invented the name Gollywog was being subtly racist because Wog is a derogative term.
However, habing said that - my golly was the only Black doll that I had in a sea of white ones and at least it made me aware of other races and colours.
Still, I can't think of any children who could possibly associate black people with negativity because of the said expressions.
How long was the gollywog invented for before they said "No cant call it that", must be many years I reckon. I can never recall at anytime connecting my gollywog to a black person, it never crossed my mind, until people in higher places told me about it.
And they had a gollywog on the packaging of marmalade(I think it was) so they had to remove it.
In the 1960s the golliwog's popularity plunged due to racial concerns. Some black people disliked the character's exaggerated features. They suspected the letters "wog" at the end of its name were a derogatory reference to dark skinned laborers of Upton's era who wore armbands with the letters "W.O.G.S * " meaning "Working on Government Services."
Exactly. It's the thought that counts, as the old saying goes. As far as I'm concerned, calling someone black is just a description, one that's quicker and easier to say than person of colour/ethnicity, or whatever the PC mob want us to say. It's only if the context of what you say makes it clear that you think someone is automatically inferior because of their race that it becomes wrong.
The whole political correctness phenomenon is bizarrely reminiscent of Orwell's "1984", at least to me. Don't want people thinking incorrect thoughts? Well then, just take the incorrect words out of the language and the thoughts will follow.
Yea that's my point it's only a song but everyone seems to take things too much to heart! I would let kids say it too but in schools they can't say black sheep i think they have to say something like woolley sheep.
I don't think that is a very good reference (no offence ) because in 1984 people were censured for having thoughts that would be harmful to the powerful people who ran the state.
In this context it is to protect minorities from abuse, the motivation may actually be commendable if sometimes misplaced.......
Actually no, if you re-read the book, you will find that the state even censures some of its most loyal supporters, simply because they can.
As for it not being a good reference, I made no claim about the thoughts being harmful to the people who came up with political correctness, merely that they were trying to strait-jacket our thought processes by messing with the language, as was done in "1984". Their motivations behind doing so are entirely irrelevant to my point. I was simply saying that what they are doing, however well meaning, is double-plus ungood
And besides, I don't care what their motivations were for two main reasons. 1: I don't appreciate being told what I can and can't say (within certain bounds, of course. If others take language to be offensive, then I understand it being frowned upon, but really, how many black people object to being called black if it is not said in a derogatory tone?), and 2: I don't think it will work. Racism has been with us for a while now, and I don't think it's going away any time soon, no matter what words become "un-PC"