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Thantanos jr - censorship

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    balddog, if i converted suddenly to islam, and believed heart and soul in the laws of the Koran, then i cannot 'change' if people insult me. that would be a denial of my faith, which is in fact a submission to the prejudices and beliefs of others.

    if i had converted because i might get rich, then of ocurse you can question my motives, but if i converted as an act of faith, it is surely unquestionable.

    the same would surely apply to sexuality. a gay person cannot simply 'choose' to become straight because people insult them - that is a denial of who they are. whether they make a conscious choice of sexuality, or whether it is simply something they have always felt, they cannot reverse that simply because of homophobia. if i insult you for being promiscuous, you do not go and become a monk, as that is a denial in the same why as it would be for a gay person to 'turn straight'.

    Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    if i converted suddenly to islam, and believed heart and soul in the laws of the Koran, then i cannot 'change' if people insult me.

    You made the choice to become a Muslim in the first place. Are you telling me that Muslims are so brainwashed they cannot make up their own minds? The fact is they can change from being a Muslim if they choose to..Its possible to leave the Islamic faith; It is not possible to become a black man.
    , then of ocurse you can question my motives, but if i converted as an act of faith, it is surely unquestionable.

    Im not questioning any motives. It is physically impossible for a black man to become white. It is possible for a Muslim to become non-religious.
    a gay person cannot simply 'choose' to become straight because people insult them - that is a denial of who they are

    That comes down to whether you acknowledge that they choose to become gay or not. If they choose to become gay then they can choose to become straight.
    if i insult you for being promiscuous, you do not go and become a monk

    If i make the choice to sleep around then I know im probably going to be ridiculed for it because it is controversial behaviour..If the insults were too much I would slow down..becoming a monk is pushing it to extremes.

    Remember all this hinges on whether you believe a gay man chooses to be gay. I happen to believe they are born that way but I can still see someone elses point of view.

    PS..I wish I could get enough girls to be promiscuous.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Bring Back Thanatos Jr!!!

    Censorship sucks!

    C'mon now, we're all liberal, drug abusing, rave-going, extasy dosing freaks here, please return this young man to the forum. you might not agree with him, but I know some of you enjoy arguing with him.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That would be an admission by the administrators and the ignorant masses that perhaps they were wrong. From what I've read by some of those who argued with him (those being the ignorant masses, I am not referring to all of you who frequent thesite), that is very unlikely.

    My views are not as his, but I believe he has a right to express his opinion, even if it is unpopular.

    The more and further back I read supports my belief that this is a haven for those who didn't fit in or were social outcasts, and find comfort in their unseen "clique".

    No offense to your nation as a whole, but history has show repeatedly that when England forces her beliefs or oppresses those who disagree with her, she tends to get herself into a bind.

    [This message has been edited by Vlad the Impaler (edited 29-08-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Vlad, what the blind ass has this got to do with England forcing anything on anyone?? You may not have noticed but the general public has not voted this board to run the country. Yet. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    Balddog, I see what you mean, but I think we're running up against the old Nature vs Nurture debate here, and due to the incredible number of influencing factors that permeate our society it's helluva hard to quantify any single one of those.

    Only users lose drugs
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Lord of Little:

    Vlad, what the blind ass has this got to do with England forcing anything on anyone?? You may not have noticed but the general public has not voted this board to run the country. Yet.

    So why are the two US Marines still banned? Is there some unseen reason or power on this board that musn't be corrupted?

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Ahh, I was just in an arsey mood, I don't normally like flaming anyone. I was just saying there is no nation-wide conspiracy in England to ban two US Marines from a message board.

    As for the "unseen reason or power on this board that musn't be corrupted" I dunno. Ask the mods and admins. IMO I'd say it was the offensive way he posted offensive views, but that's just my opinion, to be honest I didn't even know he was banned and attempted to carry on the argument with him/them <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    Now you may all get on your high horses about censorship and opposing views and even cliques and all that stuff, but at the end of the day the mods have the final say, if they think something's detrimental to the board they'll remove it. Simple.

    As for opposing views, check out the stuff peeps like Balddog post. He continues to argue some very non-mainstream opinions (though I doubt he has much faith in them himself) but does it in a non-offensive way that encourages discussion as opposed to flaming.


    Only users lose drugs
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This has already been said half a dozen times over but I`m gonna say it again cos I`m bored and have nothing better to do in my sorry little life.
    Banning thanatos may have been in the best interests of thesite visitors as far as the admins were concerned, but this place is for discussion of different people`s points of view, and if you can`t air your point of view openly, whats the point of coming here?
    If u can`t take someone`s opinion being different or just downright opposite to your own, you shouldn`t be here, same if you can`t take a bit of swearing.
    I`ve made posts that haven`t been popular as I`m sure everyone has but thats my unique opinion and I stick to it.

    Anyway, rant over, time to head back to the sex forum <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    "Honesty is just an excuse for lack of imagination."
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have noticed that this site gets an awful lot of activity over both the banned ones and the subject matter leading to it...maybe banning should be 'timed' so they can come back and respond...fun for all.

    Diesel

    88888888
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    quote from lordsoflittle:

    Only users lose drugs


    exactly my point!

    We have a bunch of people who post about activities that are illegal.
    do they get banned?
    No, but you ban a man who dislikes men who get porked in the browneye?
    Censorship in an alleged free empire?
    I think NOT!

    WE WANT THANATOS
    WE WANT THANATOS
    WE WANT THANATOS

    ANARCHY!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.ukobservers.net/cwm/cwm/cwm/piss2.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/flags/uk.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.ukobservers.net/cwm/cwm/cwm/piss.gif"&gt;



    [This message has been edited by Vlad the Impaler (edited 30-08-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeah fuck you too Vlad
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I must graciously decline your offer, as unlike most who frequent here, I am heterosexual.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well Vlad, it does seem you are from Romania..If you could actually read English then you would know that I didnt make any offer.

    Exactly why do you piss on the Union Flag? Jealous at your own countries abysmal history?


    "An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Balddog:
    Exactly why do you piss on the Union Flag? Jealous at your own countries abysmal history?

    If you watch the action you'll note that no piss actually touches the flag.

    Some people just aren't capable of the job they set out to do. I hate to bring up WW2 again, but whose allies were the Romanians?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not Romanian..... I just work here.

    Why did I post that? simply put, a sign of my discontent. Not with the UK, but with some of the opinions and attitudes that are present here. Perhaps that was a bit harsh.

    It appears to me that a thread is started seeking peoples opinions, and anyone who disagrees with the majority is shunned or banned. If you think you are not going to like the answer of a question, it is best not to ask it.

    Balddog - You verbally attacked me.... I merely defended myself. Note that I did so without the use of profanity. I would like to challenge you all to do so as well, because you come across as uneducated foul mouthed brats.

    Some will say that I'm no good, maybe I'll agree. Take a look and walk away, that's all right with me.

    [This message has been edited by Vlad the Impaler (edited 30-08-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Vlad....For some reason you posted a picture of monkeys pissing on the flag of my country. I take that as a personal insult and I find it extremely offensive.

    You attacked both the flag of my country, myself and all the other Brits on this board..I responded with the amount of scorn I deemed necessary.

    I will use as much profanity as I FUCKING well like when it comes to people like you..I happen to think what you posted is infinitely more offensive than any naughty words I could post. I also dont give a damn what you think of me..You dont know me and I am most certainly not a brat seeing as Im probably in the higher end of ages here.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Balddog - Thank you for supporting my theory.

    Apparently you just do not have it in you.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Balddog...I actually find myself agreeing with an englander...true, I saw the same flag pissing thing...fought off the temptation to post it here because I do know how I would feel were the same done to our sacred flag of the Confederacy...or the flag of Northern Agression for that matter.

    Age...I'm probably the oldest here at 62...any takers?

    I did spell the heading wrong...not on purpose though heck...it works.

    Actually, this article I copied from another board...had no idea where it came from...enjoy! We did!

    Diesel

    88888888
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Bring back the 'banished' ones...they add life and interest to the board...fight with, fight over...maybe...O'h never mind.

    Diesel

    88888888
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    so why did I get banned again?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    thanatos-jr back in his AO <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanatos, posting as berzerker:

    Politically Correct means: too gutless to have an individual opinion, and too chickenshit to back it up.

    Marines are NOT politically correct, because being politically correct is the mark of a coward.

    To censor a person who espouses an ideal which IS legal (ennacted "Thought Crime Laws yet...?), while supporting illegal activity IS an act of cowardice. It is definitive moral cowardice.

    In NO post did I state that homosexuals (they call themselves QUEERS over here) should be beaten, shot, flogged, or otherwise treated abusively. What I stated was that ANYTHING WHICH INTERFERES WITH MISSION CAPABILITY MUST BE ELIMINATED, regardless of sexual orientation, religious belief, or ANY OTHER basis.

    THAT is the reason that open homosexuality is not tolerated in the United States military: it compromises unit effectiveness. It destroys esprit de corps.

    Like it or not, THAT is the reality. To argue against the point is definitive delusional behavior. To censor reality IS cowardice.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The only reason he was banned was because he posted what he believed. What he believed didn't fit in with your ideas and that is why he was banned. Please...*rolls eyes* and you all cry about sensitivity issues here. Looks like you all need to learn the meaning of suck it up and drive on.

    "Avauncez!"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by berzerker:
    Thanatos, posting as berzerker:

    Politically Correct means: too gutless to have an individual opinion, and too chickenshit to back it up.

    PC means having enough respect for someone to consider them in a statement you make about them.

    I thought Marine were taught respect too.

    If you are truly a christian then you will understand that those who have offended God will recieve judgment before him. It is not your place to make such judgements. Until His judgment, all men are equal - even those who carry out acts that you and I do not wish to be a part of.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:
    PC means having enough respect for someone to consider them in a statement you make about them.

    I thought Marine were taught respect too.

    If you are truly a christian then you will understand that those who have offended God will recieve judgment before him. It is not your place to make such judgements. Until His judgment, all men are equal - even those who carry out acts that you and I do not wish to be a part of.


    I repeat: POLITICALLY CORRECT MEANS TOO GUTLESS TO TAKE A POSITION, AND TOO CHICKENSHIT TO BACK IT UP! You spend too much time worrying about who might be offended to say anything of substance.

    Even Jesus Himself had little tolerance in particular moments for that which disgusted Him. He laid it out straight, REGARDLESS of whom was offended. Without question, He has INFINITELY more patience than I.

    There is a REASON why God destroyed Sodom and Gemorrah, and it had to do with His disgust...

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    This will UNDOUBTEDLY get perverted as one of you attempt to twist it and use it against me, BUT...

    One of the youth in a church youth group whom I supervised came to me with her questions concerning becoming a lesbian. She had been molested by her father and brother, previously. In counciling, I expressed to her that I loved her as a person, yet hated what she was contemplating. There IS a difference.

    Being a Christian (upper case, thank you), means that I aspire to the path that Christ has set before me, NOT that I believe nor pass myself off as perfect. You CANNOT judge my Creator by me, any more than I might judge Him by the degenerate behavior of others...

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    It is appalling, the coddling that Britain does to the degenerates within her. That is MUCH of the reason that "The Empire" itself has degenerated in the past century. Yes, the United States has taken to coddling them that would pervert it, and is on a similar path. It will NOT be helped to its demise by an indifference to degeneration by those like me. Those who suffer such indignation willingly in silence ARE responsible for the consequences... they ARE accomplices. Their "political correctness" is a manifestation of their moral cowardice.

    Perhaps I should take being labeled as a "bigot" by the likes of you as a compliment. It certainly does NOT offend me, but rather encourages me and affirms that I have taken a correct stand.

    "A man may be judged by his enemies..." To be hated by the denizens of perversion is the HIGHEST compliment.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:


    I thought Marine were taught respect too.

    Marines respect that which is worthy of respect, and thusfar, you have demonstrated ONLY that worthy of derision. You espouse the dictums of degeneration, cowardice and mediocrity. Degeneration, cowardice and mediocrity are HARDLY worthy of a Marine's respect. lmfao!

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Marines, in their arrogant approach believing themselves to be superior to everyone, only respect those which they deem to be worthy of respect. From the posts you have made these appear to be anyone who is right-wing, gun supporting, racist(?) or homophobic.

    I am actually pleased that I do not have your respect, I believe that I am a better person for it.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Posted by Man of Kent:
    "I am actually pleased that I do not have your respect, I believe that I am a better person for it."

    And you're saying that Marines are arrogant? Guess I am too, but I am a soldier of course. But you might as well join the crowd, for thinking yourself "a better person for it." ::roll eyes::

    "Avauncez! To Defend and Serve!"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    racist, no goes against our core values. When did either of us make any racist coments?

    Homophomic, no. More like they are scared of us, but I don't hate people cause they are gay, just their actions (which totally sickens me).

    BTW you were right on the right wing, gun lovers. That is part of our core values <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
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