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But who trusts the Brit press, anyways? Right?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Simbelyne
    Or they could have transported it safely... Al Qaeda has money...

    That would be a planned departure, wouldn't it? Not exactly "looting".
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    That would be a planned departure, wouldn't it? Not exactly "looting".

    Probably, Al Qaeda were just waiting for the Iraqi Army to run away from the Americans so they could nip in and nick it!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Simbelyne
    Probably, Al Qaeda were just waiting for the Iraqi Army to run away from the Americans so they could nip in and nick it!

    (Lighthearted!) I don't actually believe Saddam would have enough Fissile material to be worth Al Qaeda's while.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Simbelyne
    (Lighthearted!) I don't actually believe Saddam would have enough Fissile material to be worth Al Qaeda's while.

    There is more than enough material for a radiation bomb (radioactive material and C4)...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    There is more than enough material for a radiation bomb (radioactive material and C4)...
    Where? Did you read that in Blair's 'Dossier'? :lol:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Simbelyne
    Where? Did you read that in Blair's 'Dossier'? :lol:

    Keep laughing.


    Now think about the results on your home of a 200 lb block of Plastique with about 50 lbs of highly radioactive material around it being set off in Brighton.

    Not quite Chernobyl....but I guarantee you'd be moving.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    Keep laughing.


    Now think about the results on your home of a 200 lb block of Plastique with about 50 lbs of highly radioactive material around it being set off in Brighton.

    Not quite Chernobyl....but I guarantee you'd be moving.

    And exactly why would they come here?

    Because of Blair's brown nosing with Bush.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You mean like the reason they bombed Bali?

    Keep working on that transference...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    You mean like the reason they bombed Bali?

    Yes - Bali is a hot spot for British/Australian tourists.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    You mean like the reason they bombed Bali?

    Keep working on that transference...

    hmmm...well by that logic lets say there are 100 other western countries that could be attacked.

    That puts the chances they'd choose us at 100:1

    add the fact that we are an island, have strict border control, experienced anti terrorist forces and police, making us a hard target to attack

    and the fact that us being involved in the war does not lower our chances of terrorist attack but raises it

    well I'd multiply the first number by perhaps 10 to be conservative- a statistician would probably multiply it by the same number again

    that makes 1000:1 of us being the target for an attack.

    Then the police and MI6 have a good chance of stopping that.

    Personally I'm willing to take that risk.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    You mean like the reason they bombed Bali?

    Oh, and the fact that its a lot easier to bomb places like Bali than the UK.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by carlito
    hmmm...well by that logic lets say there are 100 other western countries that could be attacked.

    ..............

    Personally I'm willing to take that risk.

    So, you don't mind if another country gets bombed with a radiation bomb? Or maybe if one is set off at Dunkirk?

    Selfish twit, aren't you?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    So, you don't mind if another country gets bombed with a radiation bomb? Or maybe if one is set off at Dunkirk?

    Selfish twit, aren't you?

    So you admit the Bali bombing was targeting Australians and British whose PM's had licked Dubya's arse?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Having had the opportunity to read the interrogation reports and transcripts, I can tell you that the only thing Bali had to do with was that it was an easily accessible and visible target of people that the terrorists hated (westerners and non-Muslims).

    The only political cause they claimed was East Timor (seems they are pissed that the UN including Australia stopped them from massacring people there). Careful reading of the transcript makes it pretty obvious that wasn't a major part of the motivation.

    Just terrorists, like every other terrorist. Power and hate.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by carlito
    hmmm...well by that logic lets say there are 100 other western countries that could be attacked.

    That puts the chances they'd choose us at 100:1

    In 1987 the radiation levels recorded in the Welsh mountains rose alarmingly.

    Why was this do you think?

    Well, let me tell you, in 1986 Chernobyl (a Russian nuclear powerplant) exploded, pushing radioactive particles into the atmosphere. It travelled around the globe settling everywhere, including Wales. For it to have done this, on prevailing winds, in would have travelled almost the entire cirumference of the planet.

    Another little aside relates to the dating of items found. Anything buried pre-1945 have almost no radiation incomparison to those found which were buried after this date. Now, how many nuclear explosions have happened in the UK since 1945, and why is that date significant?
    add the fact that we are an island, have strict border control, experienced anti terrorist forces and police, making us a hard target to attack

    Yes, we have such good border controls that we haven't seen any terrorist activity on mainland UK.

    Except the Irish Terrorists of course.

    Oh, and the ricin Group.

    Problem is that smuggling has been going on since time began. If your border controls are so good, how come we havecocaine in this country? It certainly isn't grown here...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by carlito

    add the fact that we are an island, have strict border control, experienced anti terrorist forces and police, making us a hard target to attack

    Yes, our anti-terrorist forces are remarkably effective... at hostage rescue and siege busting, neither of which are likely to be necessary in the event of an Al-Qaeda attack. As MoK said, if we were so good at clamping down on terrorists, the IRA and its many splinter groups would not have been able to kill quite so many people. Add to that the fact that Al-Qaeda operatives are willing to die to achieve their goals, and they become quite a bit harder to stop.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent




    Yes, we have such good border controls that we haven't seen any terrorist activity on mainland UK.

    Except the Irish Terrorists of course.

    Oh, and the ricin Group.

    Problem is that smuggling has been going on since time began. If your border controls are so good, how come we have cocaine in this country? It certainly isn't grown here...

    Not very sporting of you to bring reality to masturbatory moment... :eek2:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wierd thing happened in Brazil yesterday. A crew memember died and other crew memembers got sick when they opened a suit case. It had weaponized antrax in it. The crew was from Egypt and the ship was bound for Atlantic Canada. So, they're still out there.:nervous:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Very bizarre indeed if it's true. Weaponised anthrax is rather difficult to produce.

    Speaking of which, whatever happened to the anthrax cases of 2001? Last I heard the prime suspect was an American scientist working in a government lab (who one day disappeared without trace)? Any official words?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The government seems to think that because the anthrax was sent to the major liberal politician who works against Bush. At first, people thought it was Al Qaeda and Saddam.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you believe greeny and his scant attempts at substantiation (ala the odd right wing news clipping) then its been deftly blurred into all the other supposed terrorist acts which Saddam's regime supposedly has been linked to.

    Cant have any potential links to this administration being properly investigated now can we? :rolleyes:

    Hell, even more widely known links between the White House and Enron have been swept under the carpet so its not likely any truth will emerge in the anthrax case.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hell, even more widely known links between the White House and Enron have been swept under the carpet

    That was the most under reported story BEFORE he became President. I was shocked at that. :shocking:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Actually the Enron scandal broke after he took office pnj. That was the principal reason why his and Cheney's refusal to cooperate with FBI and Justice Dept investigations are all the more suspect.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ahhhh, the scandal yes...but creepy dealings were reported on some news service Yahoo US picked up...cause I read it there. The angle was Bush's father lobbying for Enron and getting them a deal in Argentina where Enron would get the oil and Argentina would be allowed to process it down there. Plus, Bush Sr. would get the US government to get Enron some kind of loan for oil exploration. And then in return, Enron gave little Bush a great big old contribution to his campaign including setting up some fund raisers. (Cause there's some limit to what companies can give?) Or something. :banghead:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    So, you don't mind if another country gets bombed with a radiation bomb? Or maybe if one is set off at Dunkirk?

    Selfish twit, aren't you?

    Hmmm, well has the US got involved to the extent of putting themselves at risk in any terrorist campaigns in any other countries over the last 50 years when not in their interest? In Spain, etc etc?

    Have you called on us in the UK to fight these terrorist putting ourselves at risk?

    Selfish twits, aren't you?

    Not that this is even the point.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    Very bizarre indeed if it's true. Weaponised anthrax is rather difficult to produce.

    Speaking of which, whatever happened to the anthrax cases of 2001? Last I heard the prime suspect was an American scientist working in a government lab (who one day disappeared without trace)? Any official words?

    Not all information is on the internet or in the hands of the media. There is a Iraqi scientist who is claiming the 2001 Anthrax attacks were done by Iraq, and the Anthrax used was produced from the samples provided by CDC (which could explain the link to US sources). There has also been information from scientists still in Iraq that there was a great deal of Anthrax produced in the last year plus.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by carlito
    Hmmm, well has the US got involved to the extent of putting themselves at risk in any terrorist campaigns in any other countries over the last 50 years when not in their interest? In Spain, etc etc?

    Have you called on us in the UK to fight these terrorist putting ourselves at risk?

    Selfish twits, aren't you?

    Not that this is even the point.

    You don't have a very firm grasp on reality when it comes to understanding terrorism, do you?

    Btw, US soldiers have been at risk in a great number of conflicts with terrorists over the last 50 years. Did you think someone was supposed to ask your permission? Or tell you?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    You don't have a very firm grasp on reality when it comes to understanding terrorism, do you?

    Btw, US soldiers have been at risk in a great number of conflicts with terrorists over the last 50 years. Did you think someone was supposed to ask your permission? Or tell you?

    That is how it works for him: that is how his video games are played out. And since the vid games are on the very same monitor which he both posts here, and reads his news sources, it substantiates the delusion that if it does not come through his monitor, it does not exist...

    :lol:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenhat
    You don't have a very firm grasp on reality when it comes to understanding terrorism, do you?

    Btw, US soldiers have been at risk in a great number of conflicts with terrorists over the last 50 years. Did you think someone was supposed to ask your permission? Or tell you?

    Which conflicts?

    All of them?

    If not, why do you expect us to stick out heads above the parapet for you in this instance?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by carlito
    Which conflicts?

    All of them?

    If not, why do you expect us to stick out heads above the parapet for you in this instance?

    Just the same ones that the UK has been involved in..plus a few dozen more.
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