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Stealgate
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Every active topic at the moment, no matter how it started, effectively amounts to stealgate arguing with everyone else about Communism. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen him define his idea of Communism, and its frankly becoming tedious and boring.
I propose that we no longer engage in these cyclical debates with him until he at least comes up with some new material. Let's try and get back to discussing a range of varied topics...
I propose that we no longer engage in these cyclical debates with him until he at least comes up with some new material. Let's try and get back to discussing a range of varied topics...
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I am afraid, however, of dying of boredom from reading his posts.
For a start I don't just post about communism I post about things like why America was attacked on September 11th!
That is not to say I agree with thee methods or tactics of the terrorsts! It just to state that America is the biggest terrorist in the world and an attack like that was waiting to happen as people who suffer from US backed oppression will want to fight back! - That is true
For a start America in the 1980s backed trained and armed the brutal Contra terrorists who killed and tortured tens of thousands of people in Nicraragua in an attempt to overthrough the Sandanista government - that is true!
America also masterminded a coup in Chile in 1973 which overthrew tthe democratically elected government of Chile and imposed the brutal Pinochet regime which killed and tortured tens of thousands of people in Chile - That is true!
The recent war against Afghanistan has devastated that country and killed far more people than died in the Septemeber 11th attacks which by the way was carried out by terrorist who were from Saudi Arabia not Afghanistan. Afghanistan is now in a state of chaos fought over by rival war lords and the country is littered with deadly cluster bombs that are killing and maiming people there - that is true.
StopWar.org.uk the website of the British anti-war movement
how about....
THE STEALGATE TRAVEL FUND!
Pay a small fee to send Stealgate to a communist country and see how long he lasts out there! <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
Edited to say: Buy a nice big boot see how far you can kick Stealgate across to a communist country mwhahaha <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
[ 29-03-2002: Message edited by: go_away ]
Communism has nothing to do with the brutal state capitalist regimes esteblished by Stalin and Chairman Mao!
Socialist Worker the paper that tells the truth!
The problem that everyone has with Stealgate is that he seems to believe that everyone of the worlds problems is down to either America, the rest of the western world or capitalism. I would agree with him that American foriegn policy has caused a lot of harm to many people, but to just blame everything on America is foolish.
That doesn't mean that I agree with his view that communism is that answer to the worlds problems. Because the truth is, that total communism doesn't work because humans will never want just enouth, they'll always want that much more.
Another Stat, it doesnt matter ifyou agree with some of what he says, its the way he says it that pisses everyone off.
He refuses to listen to any arguments and just reels off his copy and paste articles. He may well have some good things to say but hes so fucking retarded that he doesnt realise that his posting style just makes him an object of hatred.
Unfortunately we cant just ignore him because the little twat barges his way into every thread, whether its about the US or not.
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You stupid twats on here supportted the war against Afghanistan which has killed far more than died on September 11th! A war in revenge for a terrorist act carried out by Suadia Arabians not Afghans! A war that has left Afghanistan in a state of chaos fought over by warlords! A war that has left tens of thousands homeless and left the country littered with deadly unexploded cluster bombs and poisoned the land with depleteted uranium shells! A war that failed in its objective of capturing Bin Laden!
When the war began we communists predicted that it would bring chaos to the region and wwe were right!
Stop War.org.uk the voice of the anti-war movement.
Saying the workers shouldnt fight each other is fucking bullshit..Its like saying, humans should fight fullstop....Its fucking obvious but its NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
The Wehrmacht were working class, as were every single fucking army in history. They wanted to do the bidding of their rulers...THATS HOW PEOPLE WORK
SG, you are quite uninformed aren't you. THe thousands of people we have killed just happen to be soldiers, or civilians killed by their own leaders.
Depleted uranium shells...hmmm. As we or America don't have any tanks in the region just yet I find it very hard to believe that they are ours. Unless we're flying over and just dropping them for fun?
What is more likely is that they are being fired by the Russian tanks that were left behind and are in the hands of the Taliban and Government forces. But wait...those tanks aren't capable of firing depleted uranium shells, being over 40 years old and all. <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
Also they dropped thousands of deadly cluster bombs that spread over a wide area including fields used for growing crops. Many of these failed to explode and are killing and maiming people every day! They also did use depleted uranium shells!
Read this account of civilians deaths caused by the bombing of Afghanistan!
Soooooo...your problem is that US/UK bombing killed MORE...
So if we just killed the same amount as what died on Sept 11th it would be okay?
No. War isn't about getting even you 'tard. It HAS to go one step further.
Funny how you fail to mention the MILLIONS of people in the western world who were rattled by September 11th. Funny how you don't mention the families who are now devestated. Funny how you support anything thats even remotely against the western world.
If you love the middle east so much why don't you pissoff there so we can bomb you too. Now that WOULD be funny.
The way to fight terrorism is to prevent its causes not to bomb the hell out of people who had nothing to do with the attacks in the first place. MOst of the people who live in Afghanistan are poor ilterate peasants that have nothing to do with terrorism!!!!
The causes of terrorism are US foreign policy and US aggression around the world!!!
As I have said before if the USA did not terrorise the Third World and supply Irael with arms so that it could kill and terrorise civilians and it hadn't imposed sanctions on Iraq which have killed 1.5 million people and it didn't exploit the Third World through US dominated finacial institutions like The WTO and the IMF then there would have been no attacks on America in thev first place!!!!!!
I am not against going after terrorists and punishing them for carrying out terrorist crimes!!!!! But bombing whole countries will create even more hatred than ever against the USA and lead to even more terrorist attacks!!!Bombing the hell out of countries and killing tens of thousands of innocent people is not the way to fight terrorism you idiot!!!!!!!
StopWar.org.uk the voice of the anti-war movemenr.
I agree, as will most Americans I'm sure. But the September 11th attacks were NOT prevented.....so what do you suggest should of happenned? We just say "oops, didn't see that one coming, oh well!"
Most of the people in the world trade centre were not the targets of the attack. A LOT of them weren't even American. They aimed for the WTC as a symbol.
Yes most of people in Afghanistan have nothing to do with terrorism, that's why they're not the targets.
And the IRA? They pissed off at the "US aggression" too? <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
I never said it was <IMG SRC="confused.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
And if I thought for a second that's what our countries were doing I'd be the first to shout against it.
Tens of thousands of innocent people? I'd like to see you back up that claim.
You hypocrite.
[ 30-03-2002: Message edited by: Stracha_Khan ]
Is it arrogance or ignorance that fuels your fecal flow?
"US aggression" is what brought about the Taliban, and a decade of terroism BY the Taliban upon their own people in Afghanistan? "US aggression" is what has brought about a whole generation of Afghani's who have never known anything BUT war?
OR IS IT JUST BLIND STUPIDITY WHICH COMPELS YOU TO MAKE THE PUBLIC FOOL OF YOURSELF???
MoK has already stated the best cure for your ills... BUT, in the nearer future, perhaps you can voice your wetdream opinion in the form of a rock to the head of a policeman on Mayday, and then the world WILL be a better place after your edification...
It was this that led to Afghanistan being ruled first by the brutal Islamic fundamentalist Northern Alliance and then by the Taliban from 1996!
When the Taliban came to power they were welcomed by America as a stabilising influence in the country after years of civil war by factions of the Northern Alliance. They were even invited to America to discuss the building of an oil pipeline across Afghanistan to the sea to bring oil from the oil field of central Asia! But the deal later fell through!
Dumfuck. It was the SOVIETS who took over the country, thats WHY the US backed the Afghans.
Fucking hell, man are you <STRONG>really</STRONG>35 years old? Don't you remember any of this happening? I actually had to look at your profile to see how old you are, cos you sound like a 15 year old (no disrespect to that generation) becuae you certainly don't sounds as if you lived through this.
Next you'll be telling me that massacre in Tianamen Sq was a US plot too...