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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish:
    <STRONG>Did you go to Mission Week in Durham? It was run by the CU there.</STRONG>

    Nah, I agreed with DUS' emergency debate that suggested DICCU (I cant read that acronym without giggling at the irony!)should shut up. Bloody God botherers <IMG SRC="tongue.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> I wouldnt mind, but they came to Aidans to do a talk, and one of the speakers did, and I quote, "give one of the Aidans faithful more than pastoral care with his holy water". LOL.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wasnt just the Catholic Church as an example, not as the definitive truth. Islam preaches that non-Moslems should be killed, and that women are inferior beings. Jwes preach that non-Jews are dirty, so its ok to steal their country from them and blow them up. Other denominations of Christianity teach the similar things.

    Faith is not the same as religion, as you can believe in God without being a member of any church/mosque/synagogue. Faith is a goo force, as it makes people into more tolerant beings, whereas religion, especially stoid, structured organisations liked the Anglican or Catholic Church, merely preach intolerance (of gays, women, divorced people, etc) and hatred.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit:
    <STRONG>"give one of the Aidans faithful more than pastoral care with his holy water"</STRONG>
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish:
    <STRONG>
    Um, sort of. But not necessarily the Catholic church, which is what you were using as your example.

    [ 22-02-2002: Message edited by: Kentish ]</STRONG>

    Actually, I used the Catholic Church as one of my examples. Theravada Buddhism was another (looking up Monks in the Bangkok Post), and Islam another (although I probably should have been a bit more specific as to what portions of Islam).
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hmmmm.... seems to me that organised religion is the barrier that stops man talking to God. Catholicism is one of the worst cases of this, much religious rhetoric that detracts and distracts from the burn of faith. Everyone should come to faith (or not) through their own thoughts and choices, not by reading ancient texts or being harangued on the streets. If you have to be convinced to believe, what is the point of your belief??

    Look at the Universe. Is there a God?? You decide.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish:
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    Well I didnt write it! <IMG SRC="tongue.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit:
    <STRONG>Well I didnt write it! <IMG SRC="tongue.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"></STRONG>
    Those rolling eyes were directed at the guy's double standards <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    I can't comment on Buddhism or Islam because I know little about them, but I believe Christianity is about a personal relationship with God. I'm not a Catholic, and disagree with parts of their church precisely because of the Pope and confession to a priest, both of which effectively cut off the big man with the ordinary folk.

    As I said, I think most people believe that there is a God of some sort, but I would argue that there is no point in believing in God if you have no relationship with Him.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am not quite sure of, if you question the whole being of God, or if you just question religion. I do believe in God and also in religion. Though I also believe that the two things can be separated. Religion is a way for people to feel more connected to God. For some it helps to be in a community and be with others with the same beliefs, for others it’s a more individual thing, and they think that it’s a case between themselves and God. And some choose to get away from it all.
    I do see why people choose to leave their religion. In every religion you will find people who will take advantage of the believers and that will use their powers to manipulate and make changes that suit themselves.
    I am not saying that there is one way of following every religion. I am very against fundamentalism. When you cant question the religion and get proper answers, then its most likely to be a way for the heads of the religion to get power and money.

    I don’t think that religion should be taken of the schedule in school. Its practically history. You cant deny that religion has brought us to where and how we are today. For example: Wars. Without knowing the history or religion of the parts involved, then you wont understand how they got there in the first place.
    Originally posted by Kermit:
    Jwes preach that non-Jews are dirty, so its ok to steal their country from them and blow them up.[/QB]

    And yeah every religion has a downside, but even though when you quote someone, please tell who has said so. Religious Jews are not fond of Jews marrying non-Jews, but I want to know exactly where it is written or who has said that the Jews see non-Jews as dirty. And about the blowing up part, that’s a whole other discussion, and I would be glad to take that up some time.

    Apart from that, Have a nice day <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    "Religion is for people who are yet to have a spiritual experience" - Aldous Huxley
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