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Y the UK should be called England.

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
From the CIA World Factbook:


The United Kingdom

Ethnic groups:
English 81.5%, Scottish 9.6%, Irish 2.4%, Welsh 1.9%, Ulster 1.8%, West Indian, Indian, Pakistani, and other 2.8%


Did I say something wrong? :D
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Personally I think the people of the UK should decide what the name should be, in a matter that trivial.
    Only posted that to go on to a question, otherwise I wouldn't had bothered.

    Either way, why are your prayers out for Tony Blair? :confused: :eek2:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This post is meant to tease and piss people off.

    Even though when I saw it I thought 81 English...why not England? That name would make it perfect for 81% of the people who live there.

    Anyways, my prayers are with Tony Blair because unlike Bush, his country isn't supporting him for taking a stand against terrorism. These leaders get terror matrix's everyday and I trust that they were sufficient enough to want to go to war against Iraq. Who loves wars? I reject the notion that any country does. And the war isn't helping Tony Blair's career so why would he support it if not to protect his country?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blair isnt taking a stand against terorism as you put it, or in least in terms of what you are referring to. He is siding with the hawks in Washington for a war with has f-ck all to do with global terrorism. However, being as thoroughly enamoured with the lies on the evening news that you are, you fail utterly to make the distinction.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Clandestine, I hope I don't give you a heart attack. This is just a place to post ideas. None of us will influence anyone important by posting here. k?;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    An ulcer perhaps, a migraine certainly, heart is strong as an ox thanks. :p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And Clandestine I am listening to you and everyone else too. That's why I post here. My dad, as I've said, is in advertising. So I'm learning to write headlines or thoughts that make people want to answer or catches their attention.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Catching attention is one thing. Making false attacks on people's nationality or culture is quite another and something im sure your dad would tell you wouldnt sell too well in any advertising campaign.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i'm an englishman living in wales. the welsh are very proud of thier heritage. calling them english is an incredible insult that you cannot obviously comprehend. i do believe it's because your a rightwing american.
    obviously the world in your eyes will be better when were all american. shudder the fucking point!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    50 years from now Amexica is going to be sending troops to crush the brand new Islamic Republic of Great Britainstan.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i'm an englishman living in wales. the welsh are very proud of thier heritage. calling them english is an incredible insult that you cannot obviously comprehend. i do believe it's because your a rightwing american.obviously the world in your eyes will be better when were all american. shudder the fucking point!

    You really should just laugh it off. Give or take 40 to 50 years America is going to make Yugoslavia look like a picnic.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Heydrich
    50 years from now Amexica is going to be sending troops to crush the brand new Islamic Republic of Great Britainstan.

    Yay, and you can celebrate on a little atoll somewhere.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's fairly simple PNJ. There is a country called England just as Scotland, Ireland (North and South) and Wales exist. These spearate countries together(excluding Southern Ireland) form the United Kingdom.

    England is the largest landmass, hence the higher population of the whole.

    Rather than piss people off, all you have really done is show a little ignorance and rather than laughing with you, we are more likely to be laughing at you ;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: Y the UK should be called England.
    Originally posted by pnjsurferpoet
    From the CIA World Factbook:


    The United Kingdom

    Ethnic groups:
    English 81.5%, Scottish 9.6%, Irish 2.4%, Welsh 1.9%, Ulster 1.8%, West Indian, Indian, Pakistani, and other 2.8%


    Did I say something wrong? :D

    Yes you did.

    The reason why the UK is called the UK is due to it being literally a union of kingdoms (, i.e. England and Scotland).
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Never heard of an ethnic group called "Ulster" either. Are they a legacy from the old high kings of Ulster??:confused:

    Its slightly worrying when even the American secret service can't get it right about a country such as the UK

    makes it even harder to believe the stuff they come out with about other countries that tend to be less open in releasing information, i.e Iraq ;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Clandestine, you insult mine daily so don't even go there.

    I also know the Union jack is made up of crosses that symbolize, St. Andrew, partron saint of Scotland, saint George, patron saint of England and saint Patrick.

    Someone's answer of it being a union of kingdoms made the most sense. Otherwise to look at the stats, you think they're 81% English. And that answer was just what I was looking for.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Heydrich


    You really should just laugh it off. Give or take 40 to 50 years America is going to make Yugoslavia look like a picnic.

    Now THAT could get interesting...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dream on. The left, socialist, anti-semetic peace marches and the sleezy actions of France and Germany have made Americans stronger and more determined than ever to take on our enemies. And recently in Iran and with Hezbollah, there's signs they are going out of their way to demonstrate they are not America's enemies.

    What I see as being diminish is the influence of France. Their dirty dealings with Iraq have come to the forefront...despite the lies the left tried to convey with their posters against Bush and oil.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by pnjsurferpoet
    Dream on. The left, socialist, anti-semetic peace marches

    ANTI-SEMITIC! Peace Protestors are not Nazi's. The palestinians on the marches quite clearly hate Israeli's and why not? They get butchered, oppressed and used by them constantly. A hatred of Zionism and the current state of Israel is not anti-semitic - it's like saying being a peace protestor is tantamount to high treason!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Those aren't lies.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh don't bother Simbelyne. He makes the same claims every morning, only to be rebuked by and sheepishly change his statement later or simply not talk about it. And then the following day a similar statement appears.

    It's just a mixture of wishing to wind people up and desperately trying to believe what his government and the Right in America are saying... because internally he is struggling to find a good reason to support Bush's war agenda and he will welcome any theories however absurd to 'help him believe' his government is doing the right thing.

    Next time he says something like that ask him if the Jewish groups and individuals (some survivors of the Holocaust) joining the peace marches or voicing their support for peace in Iraq and in Palestine are also anti-semites. He will refuse to answer and avoid subject for the rest of the day, as it has been the case before. :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not true Aladdin. It's Hitler's grandchildren carrying Palestinian flags instead of Nazi flags.

    There's no doubt in my mind regarding the war and how it will benefit the war on terror as well as the Iraqi people. Sorry to disrupt socialist/communist France's oil deals.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by pnjsurferpoet
    This post is meant to tease and piss people off.


    Do it somewhere else.........
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jonboi:

    Ulster is the Protestant area of N.ireland
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No Toadborg, I did want an answer and got a good one. "There are many Kingdoms in the United Kingdom."

    That makes sense. Otherwise calling it England makes sense with 81% of the people being English.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Another reason why I wanted to discuss this was I was wondering if the name was a PC thing. Like recognizing minorities and that's why the UK wouldn't be called England even though it's 81% English. So the Kingdom of Kingdom answer satisfied that question. And then I remembered that is reflected in the Union Jack too.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by pnjsurferpoet
    Another reason why I wanted to discuss this was I was wondering if the name was a PC thing. Like recognizing minorities and that's why the UK wouldn't be called England even though it's 81% English.

    The Welsh aren't a minority in Wales.
    The Scottish aren't a minority in Scotland.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ethnic groups:
    English 81.5%, Scottish 9.6%, Irish 2.4%, Welsh 1.9%, Ulster 1.8%, West Indian, Indian, Pakistani, and other 2.8%

    That tripped me up bad seed. And I know what the Union Jack's crosses represent. But then someone said the Uk is a kingdom of kingdoms and that makes sense. It's not just about numbers of people, it's about the history of kingdoms getting together under one flag.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Toadborg:

    Ulster is the one of the four ancient provinces of the island of Ireland - Munster (South), Leinster (East), Connaught (West) and Ulster (North)

    The six counties that make up Northern Ireland, the UK part of Island of Ireland are Down, Antrim, Fermanagh, Armagh, Londonderry and Tyrone. The province of Ulster also includes 3 further counties that are part of the Republic of Ireland - Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal.

    My point was the C.I.A handbook pointed to the fact that there was a grouping in the UK called "Ulster" - there is no such thing. People from Northern Ireland are Northern Irish and there is no "protestant" part of Northern Ireland, unless you include ghettoised areas of Belfast!

    I just thought that if an organisation such as the C.I.A can't get its statistics about a country like the UK right, how can you expect to believe those for countries where data is less readily available??
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    good point JB and especially since Ireland is represented in your flag.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorry for my error, thats what I always thought...:(

    I still think it is legitimate to identify people as being from Ulster, there is a strong identity there isn' there?
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