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What about Frank Whittle, creator of the jet engine? Hmmm.
The bloodthirsty dictator ones, I assume?
Seeing as your 'world awareness' only began in 2000 and you use this as an excuse for not knowing anything why do you feel yourself able to comment on nelson mandela?
In what way was he a communist, did he crtiscise US policy :eek2: and is thus the great satan.
It amazes me how you have the cheek to critiscise the anti-war bunch for not condemning Saddam enough when the you are on here critiscing the French, Germans and Nelson mandela more than anyone else.........
"You are with us, or against us."
Bush
I agree and could he have been any more honest with the world?
Toadborg if anyone doesn't want to help the US fine. But then don't take our money and don't export to us. And for honesty's sake, don't call yourself a friend of America.
You seem to believe that anyone who dares criticise the United States government is a fanatic who hates America. As far as I remember Mandela has spoken out against Bush's contempt for the World Summit, America's cynical policy towards Israel and now the push for war on Iraq.
Well I've got news for you: the majority of people on earth, including many Americans, completely agree on such issues. So don't even start to suggest that the world is out to get you or that everyone hates America. Please stop insulting everyone's intelligence.
You seem to put much value to the above statement. Presumably if Hitler had uttered such words you would be praising the man's honesty as well... :rolleyes:
Being against Bush, if you start to do some research into who he has surrounded himself with, might indeed be the most moral and politically sound choice for our nation and for the world.
Nelson Mandela for one has more integrity and statesmanship than Dubyah or his cronies could ever hope to achieve.
This may have been connected to his direct experience of one of the world's most racist nations which this world has ever seen. In terms of the anti-racism cause, Nelson Mandela is up there with some of your countrymen, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King.
Many of us united behind his name in condemnation of racial violence and racist laws. Huge numbers marched regularly in support of him and it truly was a world event, on the day he was finally released - a day that many of us thought we might never see. At least, without him being in a box.
Just becasue a man has the audacity to condemn your country does not make him a bad person. I suggest you read a little about him - and Steve Biko - before you condemn him.
I admire that you marched for him. I know what he did for his country. But I don't like him now.
Just remember something, the deeds on the land taken from the Indians in America say: King George. And the manifest from the slave ships had Europeans on them too.
Personally, I think it's stupid to go back in history to make a countryseem inferior today. Do you think anyone in the UK today would put up with what Queen Elizabeth did to Catholics? Or Queen Mary did to Prostestants? The religious wars were a different time and civilizations evolve. They showed your House of Commons on t.v., there weren't many or any Blacks.
Actually I was talking about South Africa.
Worth pointing out that the first country to outlaw slavery was...
Well, see if you can guess
Do you think I am proud of what my ancestors did?
Perhaps a little acceptance, like that, from the US would go along way towards avoiding some of the enemies you guys have made. We know we have done wrong in the past, and we've said so. Just wish you could do the same.
Nope, disgraceful isn't it?
Of course, you cannot force some of our ethnic poulation to stand for election, which may also be an issue there.
So, how many CEOs of the top 100 companies on the NYSE are black?