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The Lib Dems to overtake the Tories!
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Charles Kennedy has many times claimed to be the only effective opposition. Can he turn this claim/role into more seats at the next general election?
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My teenage years were spent under a Tory Govt, there is little I'd like to see more than their ultimate destruction.
Especially now that they aren't needed anymore. Afterall Labour is the new Tory..
"undoubtably"
Must be something to be able to see the future, huh?
These guys need to get out more. Perhaps they should venture over to the Sex boards for an idea of what an orgy should be.
For your info, the Vlaams Blok are a very small regional political group largely contained in the Antwerp area of Belgium.
If everyone who is undecided and votes for one of the two out of habit actually voted Liberal, they would be credible opposition.
Well, we could, but only you'd know what it means...
No. What the Tories need is to find coherent alternatives to the funding and enhancement of public services.
As in dismantling them?
The Libs are the only credible left-wing party (Blair descibed himself as left of centre recently, who is he kidding?)
But unless the anti-war types actually change their voting they will remain well behind Blair and his lackies.......
Who says that they will? The Conservatives have not stated any way in which they would improve public services to date.
The conservatives have a weak leader who has failed to cash in on labour's failures. The conservative party will need to push hard to make any gains at the next election. This means hard campaigning on the issues labour has failed on: Asylum, the NHS and crime.
The big test will be the Scottish parliment elections this year. It will be a good barometer to predict the swing at the next general election.
Today's front covers of the papers make delicious reading. It would have been much better if the amendment would have passed, but that was never going to happen. Still, this is one of the biggest revolts on a government by its own MPs in history. It's a damn shame Anthony Blair didn't have the balls to stay for the debate proper.
As for the Lib Dems, I'm sure they will greatly benefit from this issue. If they play their cards right they have a fair chance of overtaking the Tories. And if Blair hadn't broken his promise to change the election system to PR, who knows? We could have seen Charles Kennedy as a PM in 2 years time.
Unless of course Labour sees sense and puts Ken Livingstone as candidate for Prime Minister at the next election.
Which is exactly why it won't happen, at least under the current government. They're quite happy with the system as it is, as long as it works in their favour, and lets them pretty much pass whatever legislation they choose through the commons.
And let's face it, if Labour was in a coalition government with, say the Lib Dems instead of having a massive majority we would not be about to go to war.
Strong governments must be preferable over PR and coalition governments.
Do people realise that if there ever were a pure PR system the Liberal Democrats might perpetually be in government?
Both systems have their pros and cons. I wish we were in a coalition government now so Blair wouldn't be so cocky and take this country to war without proper debate and against the wishes of the majority- at least as far as UN backing is concerned.
As a minority party in a coalition.
Tory/BNP ? :crazyeyes
However if the main party is popular enough they can get absolute majority and govern alone. I'm sure that would have been the case in 1997 with Labour. The Tories would probably have needed coaltion in 1992 though.
43% of the electorate voted Labour in 1997.