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Looking for a more intellectual newspaper the other day, I bought a copy of the Times. my Dad's immediate reaction was "That's a bit posh, isn't it?"
There's no pleasing some folk!:rolleyes:
There's no pleasing some folk!:rolleyes:
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I very much dislike tabloids, although understand many people just buy it for a bit of light & entertaining news and the sport. Sadly most of them have agendas and will twist the truth and give every story whatever spin it needs until it serves the paper's philosophy.
For me the Great Satan is the Daily Mail. Arguably the most xenophobic, homophobic, racist piece of garbage published in the UK and probably Europe. Then again I know several people who buy it for the astrology or the weekend mags but don't care about the politics.
The Mirror is filth and isn't good enough to wipe my arse on
I do tend to buy tabloids as well from time to time, as its a quick way of reading whats going on. The thing that annoys me about the tabloids is that you get the feeling you need to take everything with a pinch of salt. Particularly the Sun. I'm all for freedom of the press but the propaganda this paper comes out with is nothing short of unbelievable. How does Murdoch get away with this? Particularly because many of the readers are easily influenced. And the government is so afraid of this paper because of its capability to influence a huge number of voters in this country.
I read the Guardian too...
One paper I just won't touch is the MAIL...a horrible piece of shit!
I just became aware of the bias of newspapers this fall. I thought journalist just told the facts. I thought that was the whole value in having a free press.
And newspapers will report the version of events they favour. For instance, pro-war papers like the Telegraph and the S*n gave attending figures for last week's march of 500,000 and 750,000 respectively. Anti-war papers like the Mirror said there were 2,000,000. The truth lies somewhere in between, in this case about 1.3 to 1.5 million I believe.
The S*n went on to say that even if 2 million had marched, 58 million hadn't. This reasoning is of course utter bollocks, but the best part is that when the pro fox hunting people marched a few months ago the same newspaper said that a historic 400,000 had marched and we could not ignore the voices of this people who clearly represented the voice of Middle England.
All newspapers have an agenda but tabloids are best avoided as they usually print only two truths each day: the date and the price. The rest is to be taken with a rather large pinch of salt.
The Daily Mail is shite and racist but I do like to read it sometimes because I enjoy reading something that makes my blood boil, I find it inspirational.
PARIS (Reuters) - The Sun has opened a new front in a war of words with France over Iraq by attacking Jacques Chirac on his own turf in an edition handed out free in Paris that depicted the president as a giant worm.
"Chirac Est Un Ver" (Chirac Is A Worm) blared the paper's special front-page headline in French above a photomontage of an earthworm bearing his head and crawling out of a map of France.
"We think your president, Jacques Chirac, is a disgrace to Europe by constantly threatening to veto military action to enforce the will of the United Nations in Iraq," the Sun said on the front page of the Paris version, written in French.
Chirac is resisting U.S. and British pressure for a war on Baghdad, irritating U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair but winning strong support from the overwhelming majority of his own electorate in France.
A government minister called the Sun's tone contemptuous, aggressive and vulgar. Another said he was more sad than angry.
Many French broadcasters adopted a tone of bemused familiarity with the "frog-bashing" antics of the British press. One called it a cheap publicity stunt, noting that the special edition was not actually for sale in the French capital.
Echoing a line used last week by U.S. tabloid the New York Post, also owned by media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, the Sun recalled the sacrifices British and American soldiers made for France in two world wars. The Post made waves in France with a front-page photograph of American war graves in Normandy.
"British people feel Mr Chirac...is arrogantly strutting about trying to make France seem more important in the world than it really is. Are you not ashamed of your president?" the Sun asked, calling Chirac a hypocrite because in the end, it speculated, he would back down and support military action.
"When Saddam Hussein has gone, people in Britain and the rest of Europe will look at France and ask themselves whether France is much of an ally any more. People will ask themselves why anyone should bother with what France and its leader say."
"DISGUSTING"
Asked about the article, Chirac's spokesman Catherine Colonna told reporters, "Insults often say more about the people who make them than about those they claim to describe."
At Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin's Matignon Palace offices, ministers in Chirac's conservative government were shown copies of the paper by curious French journalists.
"It's disgusting," said Transport Minister Gilles de Robien.
Jean-Jacques Aillagon, the culture minister, said: "It's aggressive, very disagreeable, pretty vulgar and shows contempt for our country...I'd say they've been very badly brought up."
Reactions were similar on the streets from Parisians shown the special edition.
"The press should be free, but this is pretty disgraceful. It's pro-war propaganda," said 30-year-old waiter Bruno Sterne.
"It's really sad, but it doesn't surprise me coming from the Sun. I am proud of the president and his government. The British, on the other hand, should be ashamed of Blair who is an opportunist and does not fully represent his party's ideals," said Laurence Baroini, 26, a photographer's assistant.
Best known for an obsession with celebrity sleaze and sex scandals, the Sun also has a history of French-bashing and in 1990 ran the famous headline "Up Yours Delors", slamming then European Commission head Jacques Delors, a Frenchman.
Several thousand copies, identical to the 3.5 million or so sold in Britain aside from the front page, were given out in Paris, said the Sun's Lorna Carmichael:
"We're handing them out in places like the Champs Elysees. We've been getting mixed reactions."
And of course, we would hear endless cries of how everyone hates the Americans and that the opposition to war in Iraq is motivated by France's hatred only. The French would be labelled 'traitors' and 'the enemy' for posterity.
Can you see now the hypocrisy of it all?
Remember that the S*n is owned by American citizen Rupert Murdoch (the owner of your beloved NY Post).
Democrats seem to thing so. In fact, they're starting a liberal radio network.
Also Australian citizen, since he was born there. And it isn't like Britain doesn't get some credit for him as well:
Murdoch
He used to be an aussie citizen, but then renounced his citizenship so he could run his "empire" from the USA.
In reality he is an opportunistic faggot, with less morals than a pimp daddy from the bronx.
Does Australia have laws that don't allow for someone to hold multiple citizenships? The US used to have such, but there were exceptions allowed. Finally got rid of that law altogether (a Clinton administration move, I believe) and Americans may hold other citizenships without endangering their American citizenship.
Despite being an Australian-born US citizen living abroad and operating much of his British empire offshore- and therefore cheating the UK out of tens of millions of Pounds in tax every year, the ultra-right wing god-bothering bigot still thinks he should run this county. :mad:
meeting ancestral lineage requirements for third country nationalities;
Long term foreign residence in third countries;
and
Marriage to a foreign national;
in most cases the overriding factor is the condition that no second nationality be conditioned upon swearing allegiance to said flag or government.
Nevertheless, in most cases the only thing that is threatened is the loss of eligibility to serve as a US government employee (postal worker, civil servant, etc.). Since most people don't aspire to such jobs if they are inclined to live abroad, there's no real issue involved.
Oops, realized why the confusion. My post above had a "not" that didn't belong.