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Society.

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Ok, just been thinking about some stuff. Humans are naturally social beings. Yes? So, have social conventions changed? I.e. during the war there was a great sense of community, and that to some extent has changed in the present day, should it have? And in the present day now there are communities, i.e. this one, but it is essentially different because we don't know one another, even though somethings people talk about here are not talked about beyond this. Has technology brough us closer together or divided us? There's alot of questions buzzing in my head now I've began to think about this...

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Im hungry. And people smell. everyones only in it for themselves now. and food.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    like the new avatar slayer

    i think that in the past people were more dependant on each other to get things done (e.g. lack of phones, cars, supermarkets, tvs, computers etc etc, you were more likely to talk to people face to face during the course of your daily life) so therefore, there was a bigger sense of community.

    also, any war brings people closer together, esp when it is fought on your own land, so it will be interesting to see how we react if/when we go to war with iraq.

    as for discussion boards like these, it is nice to have somewhere to let off steam where no-one knows who you are, or to talk about things you might not otherwise want to for fear of being mocked. sometimes it's nice to be anonymous.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by KoolCat
    like the new avatar slayer.
    thank you :) Im thinking of changing my user name.... dunno why and what to though lol.

    I think people have become selfish now. No-one cares about anyone else. Like the war with Iraq, I think that if it does start, people will all turn against eachother to blame them. I don't think anyone is thinking of the consequences of war :mad:

    Technology like the internet is a good think in a way, because the shy people can have somewhere to be open, and people can stay at home and be a slob but still be in contact with people. But then again technology is bad thing because if our friend is online we tend to talk to them on msn or whatever rather than go out.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Slayer_Pantera
    if our friend is online we tend to talk to them on msn or whatever rather than go out.

    but if that friend happens to be in poland then msn or whatever is a brilliant tool! :)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by KoolCat


    but if that friend happens to be in poland then msn or whatever is a brilliant tool! :)

    then its a good thing ... like I can talk to my cousins who live a long way from me :) and I can talk to my grandparents when they're fussing around in Australia or New Zealand or Africa or wherever they are now
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Technology like the internet is a good think in a way, because the shy people can have somewhere to be open, and people can stay at home and be a slob but still be in contact with people. But then again technology is bad thing because if our friend is online we tend to talk to them on msn or whatever rather than go out

    See, I talk to my flatmate more online than I do face-to-face, most likely because I like him, but he can be an arse sometimes as well. So, in that way, is it a good thing? It has brought people together, but can you imagine what the world would be like if the internet had never been invented? Better or worse?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by TheKingOfGlasgow
    can you imagine what the world would be like if the internet had never been invented? Better or worse?

    WORSE! I'd never be able to write essays and actually get a grade higher than an F.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But see, people still managed to write essays before the internet was available. Maybe it's made people less clever? Look at text talk for an example :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by TheKingOfGlasgow
    But see, people still managed to write essays before the internet was available. Maybe it's made people less clever? Look at text talk for an example :D

    text talk :mad: i hate text talk!!! *arrrrgh*


    *takes chill pill* :)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You made a damn long post J, but I don't think I agree with you on any of them. But surely there must be a way to regain (not likely) without actually reducing a standard of life we enjoy just now? My view is that technology has driven a rift in between families, a lot of kids are staying in their rooms because they have everything they need there, and hardly ever interact with their parents. The media in some respects can be blamed as well, encouraging this sort of mentality. I dunno... kids these days...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fuck, I meant,
    I don't think I disagree with you on any of them

    Sorry for any confusion...

    Yeah, I totally agree with you (that's better!). Modern life sucks, but sometimes we are better off than our forefathers (and I though I only had 1, hahaha... :rolleyes: ) We have a better standard of health, are able to travel more freely, have a good education system etc. Actually, my Girlfriend's Mum (god, I'm beginning to sound like ShyBoy :D ) has a theory that the present state of the country is directly due to governmental intervention. Years ago, you used to be able to walk out of a job and straight into another one the same day, now you can't do that. We have been mollycoddled into acceptiong the shit they through us. Look at the present state. Do you know more people tuned into watch the documentary about Michael Jackson than about the Iraqi/Bush war? The government don't listen to us, and feed us shit to make us act like that. Soon, it'll all be like '1984'
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We could get a discussion going here, like the good old days of TheSite....
    Too true, too true...

    Maybe we're all still trying to figure out what is best for us, and we're still not entirely sure about it. Modern life is stressful yes, but like you say, it's because of modern life, but people are being forced to a certain extent to stress out, conditioned almost.
    I guess it's progress, but is adopting a modern version of something old anti-progress?

    Is this right? Would it not be adopting an old version of something modern anti-progress? Yeah, in that case it would be, but sometimes it's good to do that, so that you still have something that works, but is good. For example, the doctor thing you mentioned. Something that is modern isn't always necessarily better, but most people miss that I think. Eventually something is going to give in this whole social palaver, but it makes you wonder, has the present state been manufactured by the government to make us easier to control?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    society can be a bitch. it has the potential to create some complete maniacs, which frankly, puts everyone at risk. i dont like that idea. but its one of those things that happens when 'society goes bad', and its everyones 'fault'.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by J
    I think that the family unit is also causing some problems.
    In days gone by, the mum would stay at home, the dad would go out and earn the bread. There were benefits to this. Firstly children that were not old enough to go to school, would be looked after by a parent, not some spotty nosed teenager at the local child day dump. Things would be taught to the child, by the parent. There would be love, and knowledge of the child.
    The Dad would be a man, he would come home, the kids would know who was boss, and they would feel a sense of discipline as he walked through the door at 6 every night. He would guide the children in discipline and spiritual matters, and the kids would grow up straight.
    When the kids were old enough for school, the wife would be able to go and socialise, and pick up some more local news, straight from the horses' mouths.

    although i agree with so much of what you said i cant agree with this bit. In these days of women staying home to do domestic chores and childcare many of the women ended up on anti-depressants and other drugs and were deeply unhappy with the situation. Im sure this is the best for many families but i dont think this would be the best for alot of families. Many women can juggle work and childcare, my mum did. I was never dumped with some 'spotty nosed teenager', if anything it gave me more independence, i dont rely on my mum to do everything for me.
    what do you mean the kids 'would grow up straight?'
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeah, this was the one bit that I wasn't totally convinced about. It sounds slightly sexist, but is this your view J, or are you merely stating that is how it used to be? But now the roles have reversed in a lot of ways, the man isn't the primary breadwinner, and for some men that can be a problem. I think by 'grow up straight' he means having a sense of morality, of what's right and wrong, of being a decent human being basically, unlike neds.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think the times change society. In America, 911 really pulled people together and people really support the government. The Internet let's me be aware that people from all Western countries have a lot in common.

    One thing on English character, it has stayed the same for ages. The English show a lot of character, loyalty and duty...those traits were consistently expressed.
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