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Nervous Tremors/Shaking

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Hi all, I don't come to this corner of the site very often, but I hope you'll all forgive me and listen and maybe dish some advice out to me afterwards :) !

For years and years, I have had the shakes. What it is, is I am constantly shaking, whether I'm playing basketball, chatting with my friends, going shopping, doing a crossword whatever.

Earlier this year I had a little natter with my Doc about it and he did a few basic minor tests like me holding my arms out in front of me. He eventually told me I had a nervous tremor, it's perfectly normal, but there is nothing I can do to stop them :(

Now, at the time, I wasn't too bothered, and I wasn't for ages until I started college. Every flaming week the tutors make us all go up in front of the group and do a presentation. This is two or three times a week, and I fail to see the reason behind it.
On the day, when we start prepping for the presentation, and I know I'm up soon, my whole body starts shaking violently, I go cold and I can't think straight, my mind goes completely blank. I'm really really nervous doing presentations, I've never liked doing them, as it's been like this since Primary School. When I go up, I can't hold the visual aids for very long as I shake too hard and they drop, and my mind goes blank, I can't talk properly, I start babbling and I fail it.

I realise I'm not the only one who gets nervous during presentations, but I know I'm the only one in my group who's like this, and it's really getting me down. I could chat with my tutors about it, but what I wanna know is is there any way at all that I could stop the shaking? It is so embarassing I just want the ground to swallow me up. I try breathing and excercising my knuckles to promote circulation but nothing happens! It is so weird bc I am totally cool with chatting to a small group of people about what I've learnt, but not standing up and talking like that.

I also shake when I'm ill, or if I'm bleeding heavily and have the pains, or a bit when I'm meeting someone for the first time, or near someone I really like. I did try doing a search and reading a thread about shaky hands but it wasn't very helpful.

Any help or advice would be soooo much appreciated!!
HunnyPot

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not sure about this but ask your GP for valium? I've heard its like good to help you relax and reduces social stress etc...
    I'm not sure on that and I think it can also be addictive, so obviously only get it form the docs!

    He might not have prescribed it at first because he thought you weren't serious enough or something, but often if you nag at them and show its bothereing you they might help you more...

    Good luck
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok I'll try that. I'll do some web research on the drug though. I don't want to turn into some saddo that takes queer drugs and starts buying them off the street. I might look at homeopathic and herbal stuff.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I personally think you should have a quiet word with your tutor. Explain to them your problem, im sure they will understand and help you any way they can.

    Try taking slow, deep breaths it may just calm you down a bit more. You could try proper breathing excersises, maybe your doctor could reccomend some, or put you in touch with someone who is trained in different teqhniques.

    Sorry can be more help, but deffinately speak to your tutor:)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i have the same, i dontusually shakle but its one of those things. Particularly in languages as in yr 9 we had an awful languages teacher and she would just pick on u out of the blue and u wudent know what to say, so in every single languages less on my hands shake. Also, when i sit next to the girl i like (most lessons now lol) i get on really well but maybe when we r talking to the teacher ill just shake uncontrollably. I TOTALLY agree with you that those presentations u r forced to do are pointless. I mean, its good to discuss what u have learnt, but u need to build confidence progressively. Every1 in that room is looking at you and analysing you - like when ur hair is sticking up in public u think that every1 is looking at you, except in this case they really are. What i do when i dont like what my teachers do is talk to them. If ur teacher has ahalf a brain they will listen and respect what u r saying, but approach it sensitively as some teachers can be offended by people dissing their teaching routines. Just say you dont realise what this is meant to help you achieve and is causing more stress than you need.

    As for drugs, maybe i should, but i think its better that i conquer this myself whithout drugs, as there are so many side affects and i think it would be probably better for me not to trample as i can handle it. And its not 100% bad because it comes off as a vuneravbility and girls like to exploit and mother vulnerability, so there is more female attention. But i see your problem, and i think that if it is a severe problem for you then u need to see a doctor and ask about medication. Valium is often used as a sedative, and if any of u watch american anti-russian propaganda then u mite know tht those syringes they ingect people with are filled ith valium. It first slows down ur nervous system, so you would notice slower reactions etc. It also works to stop nervous shaking as it relaxes u, like as if u were doped (well in a sense u r, just in a controlled manner.) As the valium concentration increases, you will become more clumsy, slow and unfocused until u pass out, and then if the valium concentration is too high it can kill you. I dont want to scare you, just telling you the facts. Your doctor should be able to work out between your bodyweight and metabolism how much u need and how often pretty accurately, so dont worry. There might be restrictions under certain ages as it can be quite powerful and for younger people they try not to use drugs.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We have some stuff here about anxiety:
    http://www.thesite.org/info/health/anxiety_and_stress/


    If you are a bit shaky when you're alone and resting, that may not be caused by anxiety. It might be a good idea to go back to the doctor and get them to fully explain what they think it is. Words like 'nervous' can have several different meanings.

    As for suggesting valium, I would like to point out that we actively discourage people on the boards from giving out a diagnosis and treatment options. This is the job of medically qualified people only.

    Valium is a powerful drug, and it is addictive. It is only really suitable for short-term treatment, and can make other conditions worse sometimes. Taking drugs will not sort out the underlying problem, and if it does turn out to be anxiety then 'talking treatments' are likely to be more effective.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have this but mine is due to my thyroid being underactive, maybe the doc could test your blood to make sure everything is ok?
    Regardless i think you should go back to your doc.
    Good luck.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks everyone for your replies, espesh shyboy for your empathy, it's nice there's someone else in my little boat out to sea at night...

    Today I went to a Connexions Counsellor and he told me about this thing called rescue remedy, its a homeopathic solution actors and actresses take to relieve anxiety, I went over to the health store and bought some, I'll have to wait and see if that does the trick. He also told me to talk to my tutor about it, and if she doesn't help then hell talk to the student officer there about it, which is nice. Anyway, fingers crossed, I won't have to do many of them anymore, and when I will, I'll be chilled out cos of the drops!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by HunnyPot
    he told me about this thing called rescue remedy

    Forgot about that, it's good stuff.:)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Karla
    We have some stuff here about anxiety:
    http://www.thesite.org/info/health/anxiety_and_stress/


    If you are a bit shaky when you're alone and resting, that may not be caused by anxiety. It might be a good idea to go back to the doctor and get them to fully explain what they think it is. Words like 'nervous' can have several different meanings.

    As for suggesting valium, I would like to point out that we actively discourage people on the boards from giving out a diagnosis and treatment options. This is the job of medically qualified people only.

    Valium is a powerful drug, and it is addictive. It is only really suitable for short-term treatment, and can make other conditions worse sometimes. Taking drugs will not sort out the underlying problem, and if it does turn out to be anxiety then 'talking treatments' are likely to be more effective.

    Hey I wasn't passing diagnosis, just saying something I'd heard you can ask the doctor about.

    And this might be a controversial opinion, and obviously different doctors but I think many of them won't give you the best treatment possible unless you really push them...

    For instance, about a year ago I had this well weird allergy thing, that REALLY REALLY bothered me. This was at the start of summer. It made life a complete misery when it struck and i couldnt work out what it was that caused it. It stopped after a week or so though, so i didn't go to the doctor. Then it came back at the end of summer, so I decided to see the doctor. He asked lots of questions about what I ate, did, etc, took my blood pressure and did other superfiscial stuff like look in my ears and stuff. Ok, I thought, whats he going to do. He said he can't work out whats going on and he'd refer me to a specialist. So I had an appointment a week later, went in, and he basically did exactly the same thing. He said there wasnt a lot he could do for me and sorry, and gave me some photocopied from a medical textbook sheet about how tro try and work out what caused it. I tried for a week, and it didnt work, so went back. He went through it, and bascially because I hadn't had much sleep because the allergy was so irritating , I took a stand and tried to be stern. I asked him if he could give me a blood test and he said "thats not usually advised until other avenues are exhuasted", I asked why and he said "NHS policy, not up for discussion." I asked if he could give me some medication, and he said "again not advised, but if necessary I'll prescribe you these"...

    So I picked them up, and they kindof worked, but made me REALLY drowsy. However, as suddenly as it came on, trhe allergy went away, so I forgot about it....

    Until this spring, a couple of weeks before my exams, it came back well suddenly. So I thought, fuck it, I really need to get this sorted, and went town the GPs, and demanded some more medication. He just prescribed me the same stuff!!!

    To say I was angry was an understatement. I'd made it perfectly clear how irritatig it is, and that my exams were in 2 weeks and I needed to revise (these are A-Levels I'm talking about) and he said he'd prescribed stuff to the best of his ability.

    Well I went home, called a friend of the family who is a medical jouranlist, and did some research on the net. Since they'd refused to give me a blood test to determine the cause of the allergy, I investigated on a site my medical friend told me abouit, and found out that there were severaldrugs available, but doctors were reluctant to prescribe tyhem because they are marginally more expensive :mad: :mad: (and this was also the reason for not doing blood tests).

    So i got another appointment a week before my exams started, sufferening from lack of sleep as usual due to the allergy, and tried to "play it cool" at first. I asked if ther were any other drugs available and he said "i dont think thers any I would advise to be appropriate" a right p0olitician's answer. I said "what about *insert drug name here*" which was well long and complicated that I'd read on the site. He was ver yshocked to say the least.

    But obviously then he had a chmnage of heart and prescribed me an even better one that made it go away and didnt make me dozy. Which was nice. Neverltheless I'd not been able to revise effectively and so got a B in biology instead of an A, which I do blame entirely on this event, because it only let me do a weeks worth of proper revision.

    Is there a pijnt to this rant? Yeah, since the internal health service got inroduced by the tories in an attempt to make the NHS "more efficient", GPs (through little fault of their own) have to cut costs a lot to make stuff work, and so have to make decisions over who gets decent treatment ad who gets shoddy stuff that leaves them miserable and makes them underperfrom in exams.

    You can get around that by doing research and being assertive and forceful with your doctor. Not rude- they're only doing what they're told, but assertive. And if you find that hard, think of that chunk that comes out of your wage packet in national insurance and taxes. It'll help.

    Good luck.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by TheShyBoyInTheCorner

    And its not 100% bad because it comes off as a vunerability and girls like to mother vulnerability, so there is more female attention.

    Sounds like me!!:) Good advice shyboy by the way!

    hunnypot, I really hope the rescue remedy helps, I was going to suggest trying something homoeopathic or some other complementary therapy, I've found homoeopathy useful for quite a few things so I hope it helps you. I really hope you manage to get your problem sorted. Lots of love CL xxx.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks CrazyLady, I've got my fingers crossed. My tutor told me that I only have to do presentations if I want to, but I will have to do them for key skills, and she sent an email to my other teachers about it.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by HunnyPot
    My tutor told me that I only have to do presentations if I want to, but I will have to do them for key skills, and she sent an email to my other teachers about it.

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    Glad your tutor was ok about it, I really hope things work out ok for you and that it improves. xxx.
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