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Can you back that up? Yes, religious types are like that, but a lot of people with no religious background are also opposed to gay couples.
Although it is true there are many brain-dead who are not particularly religious but still have this irrational hatred/fear of homosexuality. You only have to look at any football hooligan message board to get an insight of their view of gays.
And you can prove that?
How about King Arthur?
I don't know what your religious inclinations are but before you embraced, say, Christianity I hope you proved to yourself all other religions are wrong. As far as I'm concerned ancient civilisations who worshipped the Sun deserve as much credibility as today's 'big three' monotheist religions. Can you prove that the Sun is not our God?
Or on the other hand we can stop brainwashing children with superstitions and teach them a balanced mix of social skills, morals and history. We can include 'history of the world's religions' as a factual field and tell them when they reach certain age they can choose for themselves if they want to embrace any of today's faiths.
Sounds fair to you?
Bullying can also arise from racism. Should we stop black people from adopting children, incase they get bullied for it?
I know, let's send all the black children to a different school from the white children, to protect them from bullying. :rolleyes:
Yes, having gay adoptive parents could lead to some bullying, but if I were an orphaned child I'd far rather face a small amount of bullying whilst living with a loving family than have to live in a children's home. The bullying argument against gay adoption pales into insignificance alongside the benefits of having more available adoptive parents.
Besides, eventually society will change to accept then new situation just as it has (on the whole) in relation to race. This change cannot come about unless gay parents are allowed to adopt, however. The change must come first; acceptance will follow.
First things is first, we need to look at things from the childs perspective. Remember when you were a little child? Remember how you used to look at stuff, and learn? You only learnt from the enviornment that you were brought up in....agreed?
What do you think a child will learn from being brought up by two couples of the same sex...watching them kiss, cuddle, etc from an early age? Imagine if you saw this happening in your home everyday when you were a young toddler? Clearly, a childs first impressions will be that two people of the same sex are supposed to act in this manner. Believe it or not, this is true. Little children are not open minded and intelligent like us grown-ups. They follow, watch, copy, and learn. I should know this, I've been watching my nephew grow up and learn for the past 3 years since the day he was born.
This would immediately make this particular child very different from other children in his class when he starts nursery. There would be a lot of confusion in the childs mind in terms of boy/girl issues. Believe it or not, being different at such an early age isn't a good thing. Confusion will develop in this childs mind. This child will be trapped between the events that occur in his/her house, and the way that other children in his/her classroom act.
Race is a totally separate issue. It shouldn't be mentioned in the same discussion as sexuallity. A persons race is just the colour of their skin, THATS ALL. It is still possible for black hetrosexuals to have children isn't it? If for some reason they can't, then it is OK for them to adopt a child, whether the child is black, white, or asian. The child is still being brought up by both sexes. Like I said, a persons race is just the colour of thier skin.
Sexuallity however is a different issue. It is impossible for two homosexuals to have children.
Well that's wrong for a start.
I was referring to race as a response to the issue of bullying; I had not realised that the bullying arose from the fact that the children had adoptive parents that could not naturally conceive children.
Do you believe that single people should not be allowed to adopt?
I must disagree. A person's race it linked to their culture etc, and inevitably different races will have different family lives to impact a child (I acknowledge the generalisation in this statement but highlight that such cultural variations could also exist for other reasons, eg economic circumstances).
I still hold that a loving homosexual couple adopting is preferable to a child being in a children's home.
However, a child will still think differently if he/she sees two people of the same sex hugging/kissing everyday from a very young age.
Culture and race are not necessarily linked at all. Particularly in the situation where "race" is being used to refer to skin color.
American Indians are all of the same "race". Yet their cultures are extremely varied. Similar diversity exists in the cultures of sub-Sahara Africa, Asia, and Polynesia. Some of the cultures of Asia are more similar to some of those of Polynesia than of other Asian cultures. Yet a marriage betwwen those peoples would seem to be a "mixed" marriage.
A marriage between a white American and an asian American is going to be far more similar in culture than a marriage between a Lao and that same asian American despite the same "race".
In a marriage between a Jamaican and a Somalian, the difference in culture will be extreme.
I agree with you there. Such child would probably think that sexual orientation is a personal choice and that there are no right or wrong options; that same-sex relationships are as good and valid as heterosexuals; that anyone who disapprove of same-sex couples is deeply misguided at best, or a homophobic idiot at worst. And as a result that child will probably grow up to be an open-minded and tolerant person.
:rolleyes: :banghead:
Which is why I acknowledged the generalisation. Besides, all you went on to do is give a string of examples in which the home life of the child will vary dependent upon the race of the parents.
How old was everyone when they first discovered that homosexuality actually existed?
Lets all remember when we were children. I personally obviously grew up thinking of man loving woman. When I was about 10 years old, kids at my school used to say the word 'gay'. E.g. "Your gay" as a joke. I didn't know what 'gay' meant. I asked my parents, and they said that 'gay' meant 'happy' (which I consider the latter).
A couple of years later, I discovered what 'gay' actually meant (I read it in a dictionary), and I was quite shocked.
I've seen men kissing women from the day I was born, on TV, and in real life. The first time that I actually saw a man kissing a man was when I was about 16 (notice how late this is), in an episode of Eastenders, and I was even more shocked. I have never seen a man kiss a man, or even two men genuinely lovingly holding hands in real life yet, and I am 19 years old now, but I know it happens, and accept it, because they love each other.
Now, imagine a child being brought by two homosexuals, seeing them kiss, cuddle from the day they were born. Clearly, this child will probably think that this is the norm. His/her home will be the only place where he/she sees two people of the same sex act in this way. Believe it or not, this will affect this childs infant years a lot. Being different at such an early age isn't a good thing. The problem is that most of you are thinking of this whole situation with your intelligent, open minded mind. Children are neither intelligent, nor open minded. They look, copy, learn. This child will be very confused. Yes, I agree, that when this child is about 16 years old, it may all be ok, but how will this confusion affect him/her?
Anyway, back to the question that I asked earlier, please tell the truth.....How old was everyone when they first discovered that homosexuality actually existed?
Funny that you think so. You see, a belief like Satanism, says the opposite. A child is the most "pure" and respected creatures of all (alongside animals), as it does as it's instincts tells it to. Sleeps, eats, shits, crys etc. And this way of living gets ruined when the parents teach that child the "norm" of society, or as you would say, how to look, copy, learn.
Children are openminded. In all good and bad. How they react later on to stuff is in general (at least for the early years) decided by the way that the parents will upbring the child. Which things the find necessary for the child, and the "morals" and "norms" which will apply to their way of living.
And about confusion... I have this friend, who's mom has had a string of men. This has also cause a severe amount of confusion and problems. Though it can be overcome.
A kid with homosexual parents may find itself surrounded by a lot of confusion... But with the society of today, it won't be the only kid with a confusion issue.
Though I must say the thought about kids being brought up by homosexual couples, thinking that homosexuality is "the norm" is an interesting thought, which I havn't thought seriously about before.
To tell you the truth I didn't have a shocking experience of "revelation" when talking about homosexuality. Denmark is a very open society concidering this point. And I can't remember any incident where I became aware of the fact that it existed. Though I remember that the first time I saw two guys kiss, seemed odd. But yeah, I kept walking, as it wasn't my buisness nor place to judge.
No, my examples are of same race marriages that have extreme cultural differences, or dissimiler races with very similar cultures. Race is not an indicator of culture. Culture is far more likely to create homelife issues (and I am not sure that is even true..kids are smart and resilient) than race issues.
I am not saying that race determines culture, I am saying that it will inevitably be a determining factor in culture, along with many others. I made this point in parenthesis in the original post but you're clearly too slow witted to grasp it without having to have it explained multiple times. Please, try to keep up.
And I'm saying you are fucking wrong. Please try to get a clue, and if you are going to discuss race/culture interaction, do some research beyond just what pops into your head. Twit.
As apropos here, as well? At least the vox persona is consistent...
LOL, good idea!