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what is it with girls?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
after reading someones message i am happy to find out that i am not the only one in my situation. please read the whole of the message, even though it is soooo long!

basicly when i meet a girl first thing i want to do is get to know them, to find out about them. this is not usually good, because i am the boy who is a friend and not the boyfriend.

this then ends up with me being the person who everyone talks to to sort out their problems, and sometimes it is so hard to tell someone who you've fancied for ages how to sort out their problems with a boy that treats them like crap. being the nice lad is not always as easy as it seems.

it really guts me that i am the only single lad in a group of about twenty mates(both sexes) basicly because i try to treat girls with a little bit of respect and tact.
so, why is it that girls prefer to go for blokes who:
1. are amazingly good looking,
2. have no brains or sense,
3. are inevitably going to treat them like crap
4. who's idea of a 'loving' realationship is one wordless phone call a week and somekind of sexual activity everytime they see you.
instead of going for the lad who:
1. is good lookin, but not as stunning as a 'the amazingly good looking boy'
2. has a brain and can add 2 & 2.
3. knows how to treat a girl even if it makes them loook like a twat in front of their mates.
4. who doesn't look for a wank everytime they see each other but tries to find out the better intricate details of a person.

i know this sounds really desperate and that you all think i must be terribly ugly, but seriously drop the 'treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen' and look for a lad who deserves you, in the long run it will make you feel better too for getting someone who you deserve and treats you right.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm in the same position - pretty much exactly. I've got loadsa girls who love me to bits, but only cos I'm the nicest guy they know - often better than their bf. I gotta agree with indie_bloke, drop the crap and go for someone you know you'll love in the long run.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Girls like that r not even worth bothering with. Those of us that r not shallow r few and far between.

    Most of my m8s r like this too and I could never understand it. But I have to laugh when they come running to me crying with their man problems because from my point of view they normally bring it on themselves.

    When I tell them not to carry on with a certain guy because he's an a-hole, they do it anyway so I waste my breath.

    Personally, I like to be loved and respected and not used and abused. I was lucky and met my soulmate at the age of 22. We are now 25 and have a beautiful daughter together.

    Well my m8s say I'm lucky to have such a good man but then I just think that if they took a leaf from my book they would find a good bloke quite easily.

    Some have tried nice guys but they get bored. They get off on some kind of fucked up challenge and petty mind games.

    Just be yourself m8 and the right one will turn up. When she does you won't know what's hit you.

    Us girls r not all shallow gold-digging bitches. Just be patient and one day you'll find the right one.

    Good Luck m8.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Also, Macho men are not real men. They r pussies.

    Carry on with a sensitive attitude. It makes you a stronger person when you are in touch with reality.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by indie_bloke:
    it really guts me that i am the only single lad in a group of about twenty mates(both sexes) basicly because i try to treat girls with a little bit of respect and tact.
    so, why is it that girls prefer to go for blokes who:
    1. are amazingly good looking,
    2. have no brains or sense,
    3. are inevitably going to treat them like crap
    4. who's idea of a 'loving' realationship is one wordless phone call a week and somekind of sexual activity everytime they see you.

    Because of the following:
    - to find the prince you have to kiss a whopping load of frogs
    - Showing up at a party with a stud makes you the center of attention and your mates turn green with envy (who cares if he's a dickhead, it's worth the effort). However, these 'relationships' obviously do not last for long.
    - To go out with a pea-sized brain bloke, he must be perfect in everything else. Again we do it for showing off and pure entertainment
    -You never know if he'll treat you like crap. For instance I can't tell it from the first sight!

    As for the rare phone calls and fast sex on each date, I find it very upsetting and hurtful. In this conditions a relationship must be terminated. A girl who continues to be with this kind of lad is foolishly hoping and praying he'd change, but usually it never happens... It's just being naive, I guess! (been there myself ;-()

    And another point about those 'amazingly attractive' blokes. Attractiveness is a very personal matter. Well, there are certainly these typical gorgeous stud muffins who are adored by all local female population aged 5-105, but they are EXTREMELY few. Personally I know one or two men like that and I think that both of them are ugly. As simple as that! You don't even realize how many women have 'eccentric' tasted in men ;-)) and even more women go for the 'ordinary' type because it's safer than to get tied up with a playboy. So don't despare.

    Originally posted by indie_bloke:

    instead of going for the lad who:
    1. is good lookin, but not as stunning as a 'the amazingly good looking boy'
    2. has a brain and can add 2 & 2.
    3. knows how to treat a girl even if it makes them loook like a twat in front of their mates.
    4. who doesn't look for a wank everytime they see each other but tries to find out the better intricate details of a person.

    Because

    -We might want a simple ordinary lad, but there's always competition with the mates. We're under pressure of showing off.
    -Being a brain-box is not THAT important. A bloke must be interesting in conversation and fun to be with, even if he is not exactly a rocket scientist ;-) I've been going with lads who hardly passed theit O-Levels but they made me laugh and they were amazing story-tellers. I loved it.
    - Ohhhhh!!!! Please, please, please show me a normal man that will act like a twat in front of his mates in orded to please me. No way. If these species do exist there's a very thin chance that I ever gonna meet one.
    -He he he :-) A lot of girls love their lads to be naughty, we just don't admit it and play hard-to-get. It's much worse when you are begging for it and he doesn't notice ;-)

    Anyway, these are just some explanations. Don't take them too seriously as life is right weird and love is even more weird.
    Wait, be yourself and go out to places where you can meet girls and you'll be sorted.

    Good luck! ;-)

    [This message has been edited by Anele (edited 29-08-2000).]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't bag girls, ladz are doubly shite thank-you very much!B a flirt, get the girl, THEN be a friend! ok?! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hate to say this but girls seem to prefer being treated like shit.
    They seem to want a mother son relationship, so if they're gonna go out with some1 they got to baby them n look after them, intelligent blokes generally r more indipendant and look after themselves.
    Also in the mother son relationship, the sons dont treat mothers nice(in general) n girls seem to like not been treated nice, the best example of this was a good m8 of mine went out with a girl n she dumped him for 'being to nice', they got back together 2 months later, when my freind was on police bail for stealing a car. This time round he treated her bad.. like he didnt really care n in the end he dumped her n she was all like pls get back together.

    Dunno y, but it seems it's just like that
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have to say, I agree with Anele quite a bit here. On the other hand, (if it's any consolation) girls who go for the sadists are either slappers who know no better, intellectually challenged (thick), mentally unstable (loony) or in my case on the rebound. My 'relationship' with Satan very much fits the bill here.

    Rare phone calls and fast sex? Bingo baby! Chatting to m8s on this topic (as girls do) it seems as if the horrible ones are generally wham-bam, if that makes you feel any better. Anele is well and truly right, you DO have to kiss a lot of frogs to get to Prince Charming. Or in my case, diseased orangutans. Tosser. Anyway!

    Repuation DOES have a lot to do with it. Girls can use too you know! But we're the ones who seem to get hurt more. Than the insensitive bastards, I mean.

    It all depends on your friends really. Personally, I'm not obliged to shag a lot of lads, but I know people who DO just sleep around just to be 'cool'. It's often peer pressure. The 'rule' in my group is actually finding a lad who's good in bed without whoring yourself into an oblivion. Lucky old me <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

    Try not to take it too personally, because you'll be the one who'll come out on top (no pun!) When all these wombles have grown up a bit all they'll have is a scarily notched bedpost. Don't feel down about it because if you have girls m8s within your group, then you're already halfway there. Girls liking you is the main thing. Only the stupid ones go to bed with a lad they don't like. (Dammit Chica!)

    I know it probably isn't much good to hear that it'll all work out eventually, but I don't know you and you could meet a virginal, intelligent, sane girl tomorrow while walking your dog or whatever. I don't know if I'm just a freak (don't even THINK about answering that Pathers/Turtle!) but personally I've learned my lesson about the type of lads your talking about.

    If you can make a girl laugh, hold up a decent conversation without mentioning the words orgasm, football or lager, and not leave your sticky page 3s on the bed when she's over, then I bet there are loads of girls who'd want to go out with you. We're not always honest. TIP: Go for a quiet one. Be nice and take her by surprise, and slag off one of the gobby ones she's bound to be jealous of. About 90% success rate.

    Good luck.

    *|* Chica *|*


    Stay Calm <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/mad.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I cantread will answer l8r/smile
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