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The chief medical officer and the state of the nation: e-cigarettes and beyond...
**helen**
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I read this pretty full-on interview in New Scientist last week.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25319-dont-let-vaping-obesity-and-boozing-become-norms.html#.UzwAEvldVyU
What would you like to say to Sally Davies, given the chance?
And should there be a moral panic about e-cigarettes?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25319-dont-let-vaping-obesity-and-boozing-become-norms.html#.UzwAEvldVyU
What would you like to say to Sally Davies, given the chance?
And should there be a moral panic about e-cigarettes?
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Theyve also helped me give up smoking.
Most of the websites that sell juice will only do so to over 18s despite the fact theres no law to say they have too.
She makes no suggestions as to how people should do these thing she just says it's bad - people know, and I think body image and self esteem is not high in the UK and things need to be done to change it.
Yes it's partly the industry changing salt/sugar/fat levels but if schools aren't teaching healthy eating and cooking (home ec/food tec should be a compulsory subject to GCSE level IMO).
It's very easy to point the finger and judging but things like my local NHS offering 6 weeks free with slimming world isn't helpful because 6 weeks won't help and eating fat free biscuits and all the other shit places like that advocate rather than proper food isn't good either! There's no holistic approach to these things!
Yes the vapour dissipates, but not instantly. I think my main concern is that the up sides get a lot of image, and the downsides brushed under the carpet.
My other concern is how many kids will now begin using them who wouldn't normally have started smoking? The schools I work in are already confiscating bucket loads, although that might be more because the kids are using them openly instead of trying to hide them like they do ciggies.
But there's nothing in the thing apart from nicotine. As a smoker, those things are a God send. Yeah of course it's not instant otherwise there would be no vapour and the user couldn't feel it hit the throat, which is a main thing for me. It doesn't make a room hazy though like smoke would, its gone in a matter of seconds.
^that.
I also find it interesting that they haven't been formally recognised as an aide to quitting - which makes me wonder why.
They're better than smoking real cigs, but not as good as not smoking at all.
I found the rest of her interview to be far more unhelpful. Just like her predecessor, she's long on hectoring judgmental lectures and short on solutions. I'm fat. This isn't because I'm stupid, or because I don't know the risks, or because I'm just some weakling who can't stop mainlining the Big Macs. I don't think I'm normal sized, or "big boned". Being talked to like I'm a particularly retarded toddler- that I'm just not taking enough "personal responsibility", whatever the hell that is- is not going to help. Having lost six stone I have plenty of restraint; I just didn't have enough to stop drinking too much and eating shite when I got divorced.
If she thinks that people are only fat because they don't have enough "personal responsibility" then she's clearly completely lacking in the knowledge and empathy required to do her job. And she should be sacked immediately as a result.
It makes you look like a tit do i dont really agree with that. Most people smoke them indoors because it means you can enjoy them with your drink without going into the cold.
The only harmful chemical is nicotine, which in the scheme of things isnt that bad. The vast majority of whats exhausted is vapour, a very different thing to smoke. Same as standing by a steaming kettle.
More research is needed but lets stop the manny state attitude if banning shit despite a kack of evidence and start banning shut based on good research and evidence.
I'm not sure what is exhausted from the e-cig. I know it's not tar, which is the important thing, but it doesn't smell like pure water. It smells a lot more like something you'd get from a smoke machine or similar.
I wouldn't want to see them banned.
Haha, seriously?