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Don't know what I am- extreme anxiety

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Hi everyone,

I'm just new to this forum and was told it was really good for working through these types of issues.
I feel extremely confused over my sexuality, I get these anxious cycles where I fret and worry myself sick over whether I am bisexual, or lesbian when have considered myself straight otherwise. I also just came out of a long term relationship, and this anxiety went away for a good bit but has now returned.
I was exposed to same sex pornography (by accident) at a young age, and I sometimes still get off to it. It's confused me as I do like it, but have never had any relationship-py feelings towards other women, and now I'm analysing whether I check them out, asking myself could I label myself as lesbian and never look at men again, and the thought of doing all that is really scary. I also feel as if porn has done some harm in that when I get myself off, I can't do it without thinking of porn I've watched rather than letting my imagination involve me. I still like straight erotica though, and it's exciting to imagine me being in the lead female characters position and being pursued by some hot guy!
I've always felt a little different from other girls, in that feeling I don't have some allure that they have which attracts nice blokes. But then I feel really comfortable around LGBT folks, but a bit afraid of it going into the romantic areas! Crazy!

Basically, I don't feel like I can do anything normal at the moment without feeling some stab of guilt or worry, and makes me want to avoid sex/relationships altogether. And if what I'm feeling probably means I'm in the closet and will have to be different, will no longer be attracted to the opposite sex, will have been lying to myself all this time. It took a lot for me to admit I didn't love my first boyfriend and terrified this is the same. Has anyone else ever felt this messed up? :( :banghead:

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've kinda experienced these feelings (in a way I still do. I can't see myself as anything but plain no matter how many people tell me different.).

    The way I've gotten over it is basically... to decide NOT to label myself.Not restrict myself to one or the other gender or indeed both or all gender identities. I've no clue what I am really in terms of sexuality but it doesn't bother me so much anymore. If I'm one way or the other, I'll find out when I find someone special to me. But not before.

    If we fall in love with someone, gender and sex ought not to be an issue (but is because of society's 'norms' which shift CONSTANTLY). If you care for someone, let them know without worrying about what the world around you thinks. Don't let gender or anything related to it hold you back.

    I mean, I'm female. Consider myself that mentally and am biologically born that way. But I've never let being female define me. I'm everything I am and just happen to be female. I've taken this thought-pattern and applied it to how I see people. I try to try not to let their gender shape my judgements...


    Ugh, this is a mess of thoughts but... yeah. I don't know. Maybe it helps? >.<;

    EDIT: Grouped my thoughts.

    tl;dr: Don't someone you love pass you by because you're worried about not being 'true' to whatever sexuality you think you might be. Just go with it and enjoy being loved. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Is it nice sharing? Because reading it back I don't think I could have sounded less insecure or insane if I tried haha
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    *Holly**Holly* Deactivated Posts: 140 Helping Hand
    Hi Shychick and welcome to the boards :wave:

    It can feel a bit weird sharing your thoughts online, and you're really brave for doing it. Nobody here is going to judge you for what you write or how you sound. :)

    You ask has anyone else ever felt like this? And, I'm sure more TheSiter's will share their thoughts and feelings to confirm this, but basically, yes. Questioning your sexuality and getting anxious about what your sexual thoughts mean is really natural and normal, although knowing that doesn't make it any less scary!

    Have you read our Exploring your sexuality article? You may find it helpful, we also have an article about masturbation too. Particularly in regards to watching same-sex porn and worrying about what this means, this crops up so much on TheSite that is one of the main reasons we created these articles. I hope that gives you some comfort.

    Do keep posting and let us know how you're getting on.

    Bigs hugs *hug*

    Holly
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why does it matter to you what your sexuality is?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Insecure maybe. Insane no.

    Your thoughts are perfectly normal. Believe me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    TheFangirl wrote: »
    Insecure maybe. Insane no.

    Your thoughts are perfectly normal. Believe me.

    Yes, I agree with that!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote: »
    Why does it matter to you what your sexuality is?

    I guess because it's part of who I am and feeling like you don't know or frightened about denying an integral part of myself is horrible.
    I've grown up believing sexuality is either one thing or the other. My parents are very clear cut on what they are, so I fear any of my thoughts are denial, and I'm trying to rationalise them like many people would :/
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    Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    You can be who you are without fitting into a pre-made box.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Shychick wrote: »
    I guess because it's part of who I am and feeling like you don't know or frightened about denying an integral part of myself is horrible.
    I've grown up believing sexuality is either one thing or the other. My parents are very clear cut on what they are, so I fear any of my thoughts are denial, and I'm trying to rationalise them like many people would :/

    When you say "one thing or the other" what do you mean by that? Do you mean you have to be male or female, gay or straight etc?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote: »
    When you say "one thing or the other" what do you mean by that? Do you mean you have to be male or female, gay or straight etc?

    I mean you are either gay or you're straight. My family are not homophobic but believe any curiosity or hovering in between means that you are probably gay and just frightened to come out! Even I'm struggling to convince myself you can have same sex romantic feelings and still be straight.

    I've had worries over my sexuality for a number of years (they come and go), even though I've never had a crush on another woman. I've only ever had one relationship, and when I told my parents I might be a bit bi-curious, they said I probably just needed to go out with more people. My mum always shudders and says she could never go out with another woman and knew from a very young age she was straight, which really annoys/offends me for some reason!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, the very first thing is that you can be bisexual, and that is a valid orientation, you can be attracted to men & women and not be confused about your sexuality at all. I know bisexual people.

    A friend of a friend who is now married was once telling a story about how people now said that she was straight because she'd married a man. She said "I'm not heterosexual just because I'm in a committed relationship, it doesn't change my orientation because I'm committed to one person, if anything it makes me bob-sexual" (bob being her husband's name).

    It's ok to be bi.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Maybe I'm too narrow minded or prejudiced, it's just every time I might bring it up, I can hear myself and always think, who are you kidding, you're definitely in the closet! I do feel pretty comfortable around LGBT people, but it's unnerving to imagine it going into the romantic zone. I know this sounds very weird and maybe I'm just afraid that I might like something I never expected to.

    I've actually gone cold turkey on relationships now, just don't look anymore or feel any interest, plus not really over my ex of 3 years.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just give yourself time. You can have gay friends and not be gay, you can have straight friends and not be straight. Just chill out love.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote: »
    Just give yourself time. You can have gay friends and not be gay, you can have straight friends and not be straight. Just chill out love.

    One of the best nights out I had was in GAY in London, I'm heterosexual. Infact I don't even know why it is necessary to state my sexuality, it doesn't really matter :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not knowing and worrying is making me wake up anxious every day. Sometimes when I try and fantasise about men like I happily did before, and all the excitement at meeting my dream guy after my break up, I catch myself and feel guilty because I don't feel "truly" straight after questioning my sexuality. And if I see lesbians on TV, I say to myself if I was id never go out with someone like her, she's scary, it's a bit weird having a more masculine woman etc. I even read articles about accepting being gay, and getting little adrenaline jolts at points I think I might be experiencing.

    I'm just so scared and I'm pretty much avoiding anything remotely to do with checking other people out, even avoiding thinking about celebrity crushes, any romantic future. I'm trying to tell myself it's fine if I want to experiment or just see what happens but I feel stuck, and just want to avoid anything romantic completely :(:'(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Avoiding romance (at least anything serious) while you are figuring things out isn't a bad idea anyway. It's also worth pointing out that non heterosexuals are often stereotyped on TV - not all lesbians will be agressive and scary that's for sure!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    krng wrote: »
    Avoiding romance (at least anything serious) while you are figuring things out isn't a bad idea anyway. It's also worth pointing out that non heterosexuals are often stereotyped on TV - not all lesbians will be agressive and scary that's for sure!

    I do understand that (I also admire and get on pretty well with most non heterosexual people I've met!). But I'm even trying to make myself more comfortable with the idea of not being straight, but don't want to come out because everyone would expect me to actually be that way! Wanting a same sex partner, what type of girl do you like, and so on.

    I'd hate to think all my previous sexual interests and crushes meant nothing, that I'm actually not bothered about men, and even just trying to tell myself it's ok to be somewhere between hetero and curiosity makes me panic, feel sick etc. My mum joked earlier saying this guy on the tv was a nice bit of eye candy for me and I nearly burst out crying, but basically just shrugged it off cos I genuinely couldn't tell if he was cute or not.

    I know I sound like a emotional-fireworks-teenager (I'm in my early 20s), it's so ridiculous! My mind says, for goodness sake just come out if it makes you feel better, admit you might subconsciously like women if you have to, do something! Anything to stop feeling this way. But thinking of going down that route seems very narrow, and like I'm leaving behind all previous feelings for something I'm not even sure about.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It all sounds exhausting! I know it's very hard to settle when your mind is preoccupied, but is there any way you can try to just go with the flow? Your LGBT friends won't reject you for being straight, if they're any kind of friends, and they don't seem to mind so far, just relax and take things as they come.

    I know there's no magic solution and "relax" must sound a bit simplistic but it seems like your anxiety is disproportionate. Do you often experience such high levels of anxiety?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    piccolo wrote: »
    It all sounds exhausting! I know it's very hard to settle when your mind is preoccupied, but is there any way you can try to just go with the flow? Your LGBT friends won't reject you for being straight, if they're any kind of friends, and they don't seem to mind so far, just relax and take things as they come.

    I know there's no magic solution and "relax" must sound a bit simplistic but it seems like your anxiety is disproportionate. Do you often experience such high levels of anxiety?

    I used to get them when I was in my relationship, sometimes over this issue of identity, and other times over whether I actually loved my boyfriend, whom it turned out I didn't. They're like cycles that come and go, and when I relax eventually, everything is normal again and I wonder what on earth I was thinking
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Shychick wrote: »
    I used to get them when I was in my relationship, sometimes over this issue of identity, and other times over whether I actually loved my boyfriend, whom it turned out I didn't. They're like cycles that come and go, and when I relax eventually, everything is normal again and I wonder what on earth I was thinking
    Certainly for me in relationships I've found that feelings fluctuate from time to time (and I've always been pretty sure about my orientation). Worrying about how you are feeling at any one particular point might not give a real reflection of long term feelings towards someone which can sometimes be masked.

    I have to say I agree with piccolo and think that if you can "go with the flow" that might help you to figure out more about your identity. If you think you fancy a guy and they feel the same way go for it - just because things haven't worked out in previous relationships with men doesn't mean it will always be the same for someone new. By the same token, if you think you fancy a girl then don't be afraid to explore that - maybe it will feel more natural (or maybe not but at least you'll know).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    krng wrote: »
    Certainly for me in relationships I've found that feelings fluctuate from time to time (and I've always been pretty sure about my orientation). Worrying about how you are feeling at any one particular point might not give a real reflection of long term feelings towards someone which can sometimes be masked.

    I have to say I agree with piccolo and think that if you can "go with the flow" that might help you to figure out more about your identity. If you think you fancy a guy and they feel the same way go for it - just because things haven't worked out in previous relationships with men doesn't mean it will always be the same for someone new. By the same token, if you think you fancy a girl then don't be afraid to explore that - maybe it will feel more natural (or maybe not but at least you'll know).


    Sometimes it does feel natural but then I'm not surprised because once you've turned something over in your mind so many times, it will start to feel normal!
    I've been telling myself that whatever happens, I should do what makes me happy, there's only one life and doing what you enjoy is no crime. Even my parents have told me to chill and it's my life, I can do what i want.

    I guess a root reason is because I am not exactly repulsed by the idea of having physical sexual relations with someone of the same gender (I would read that and think gay), but the idea of being romantic, basically like a hetero couple but both girls makes me uncomfortable. But, I've calmed down and told myself there's no point in worrying about what might happen, being extremely distressed of one possible outcome, cynically doubtful of another, because only time will tell. I do want answers now but I realise that won't happen, and need to learn to control my obsessive behavioural tendencies.

    I do hear you don't need to experience an encounter to know what you are, but I have only ever had one relationship, I know very little of what I want in detail, so think I need more regardless. Kiss a lot of frogs.

    I was engaged before my break-up, and doing what I thought made me happy, when it turns out it didn't really and I was lying to both of us. That event in my life, and the same sort of behaviour I engaged in, basically worrying I didn't love him which turned out true, I think my sexual orientation must be the same. But realise it may, but may not be as simple as that.

    I just hope whatever conclusion I arrive at will be clear and I'll be who I want to be, and happy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi i am just wondering how you got on... I feel as if i am in the same situation and would like to know what you did to not feel so anxious about it. My boyfriend and i broke up and i started thinking about my sexuality. Then we got back together and i am still unsure luckily he is very supportive. I am just generally unsure. I have read a lot about female sexuality and how many of us can find same sex/almost anything to be a turn on but i feel like my anxiety about this has just taken it to a ridiculous level. I feel ok about the sexual side as long as i can still be with my boyfriend and it doesnt affect the good relationships i have with my friends... This is something that really worries me! I feel like i am noticing way more women than men only because i am anxious abt it... I still love a good flirt with a man and like male attention. You sound too like you have a lot of anxiety about the whole situation i want to be able to get rid of the anxiety so then i can hopefully figure it out with a level head.
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