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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    piccolo wrote: »
    the idea that it's ok to comment on Mary Beard's vagina publicly or tell Stella Creasy you're going to rape her is enmeshed within it

    I'm not quite so convinced, to be honest.

    I think that is more of a problem with the pseudo-anonymous nature of social media. Like all good keyboard warriors, these people are not making these comments to their faces and, like all good keyboard warriors, they'll keep doing it if they think they're getting a reaction. I think the likes of Caitlin Moran or Susie Boniface constantly retweeting the abuse they get is far more of a problem as it's giving these keyboard warriors attention they could otherwise only dream about.

    The rape comments are really not so very different from a toddler with ADHD twatting the cat with a cushion because you're ignoring it. If you continue to ignore it then it'll stop; if you indulge it then it'll carry on as a way of getting attention.

    The rape comments and the misogynistic abuse is foul, but I'm not sure the root cause is inherent misogyny so much as inherent stupidity.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I read that one of these 'trolls' published her address too. Therefore if you're getting rape and death threats with your address out in the public domain then I would be scared too, even if they are 'empty threats', but you just don't know. I'm pretty sure it's an offence to send these kind of threats anyway, no matter what your real intent is.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The comments are disgusting, but as much as Twitter dresses itself up as mainstream the lowest common denominator is the same as 4chan. It's an unmoderated anonymous forum.

    I think twitter should pull their socks up, I think the police should probably be more active at warning people on there and finally and importantly people should be made aware twitter isn't a safe place. Moderated forums such as this one are far better for putting your political views out there.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Also re: violent porn and violent tendencies. It the study from memory men watched the porn then played a game with a woman and could 'punish' for getting things wrong. The sexual aggressive type men were shown to more frequently and more harshly punish their female teammates after watching violent pornography.

    However the study pointed out that the vast majority of porn isn't violent, really it's the real wifebeater esque stuff that fires these 'potentially violent' types up.

    The more recent study / literature review I glanced at yesterday said that there has been no evidence that violent crimes against women have any correlation with violent pornography. Hence in a lab setting this effect may exist but the chances are that it does occur in real life.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote: »
    I read that one of these 'trolls' published her address too. Therefore if you're getting rape and death threats with your address out in the public domain then I would be scared too

    That's a different ball game, though, and people who do that should be spending a long time in prison. That's not trolling. That's stalking.

    And this is part of the problem. Anything between publishing someone's home address and threatening to kill them and saying they have a smelly vagina is classed as "trolling", and people seem unwilling or unable to understand the difference between the ends of the spectrum. For most abuse the block button is the best way of dealing with it, rather than the Susie Boniface "let's retweet it to everyone to show how awful my life is" school of thought. For stalking, it isn't.

    People who are harassing and stalking need punishing, and severely. But instead the police seem intent on arresting people and jailing them for making tasteless jokes about footballers.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I could trivially write a twitter bot that would harass anyone who posted anything with the hash tag #tory in it. It would probably be banned but the point is that twitter really really really isn't a secure or safe medium.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ShyBoy wrote: »
    Also re: violent porn and violent tendencies. It the study from memory men watched the porn then played a game with a woman and could 'punish' for getting things wrong. The sexual aggressive type men were shown to more frequently and more harshly punish their female teammates after watching violent pornography.

    However the study pointed out that the vast majority of porn isn't violent, really it's the real wifebeater esque stuff that fires these 'potentially violent' types up.

    The more recent study / literature review I glanced at yesterday said that there has been no evidence that violent crimes against women have any correlation with violent pornography. Hence in a lab setting this effect may exist but the chances are that it does occur in real life.

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    Do you have a link to these studies please?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm at work on my phone right now, but they're not difficult to find on Google scholar.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    From what I gather the people violent porn has an affect on are the people who are already predisposed to being violent themselves. The case of Tia Sharp I think is an example. However, these people are in the minority and those that want to get their hands on dodgy stuff are hardly going to use generic search engines and will find ways to do it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Most the reports discover that people who like violence enjoy violent porn and they extrapolate from this that violent porn makes people violent. It's pretty much a logical falsehood, although it does seem to be agreed that repeated exposure to violent media can desensitize people to violence.

    I think most people would usually only be repeatedly exposed to a type of porn if they already liked it. I can't imagine many people not into BDSM, say, looking at the more hardcore BDSM websites and sticking around for long.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I do find it funny that everyone is up in arms about the porn but fail to see the bigger picture with the other aspects being/proposed to be filtered with this.

    Sure the porn is a big thing but it's so much bigger than that.
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