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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited March 27 in Work & Study
Hi guys,
wasn't quite sure were to put this so please move if needed :)
I want to teach myself Latin, and was just wondering if anyone could recommend any books or websites they found useful?
Thanks
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wow, I hope you're a grammar buff!

    We used the Cambridge Latin Course (which comes with teachers' books) but I would recommend Minimus as a more accessible version.

    Moving away from the realms of schoolbooks, I've used Teach Yourself for other ancient languages and found it good, and Amo, amas, amat makes some of the grammar easier to get to grips with.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There's a set of text books called Reading Latin. Comes in three parts, the text, the grammar vocabulary & exercises book, and the independant study guide.

    To get the full set would be expensive, so probably only worth it if you're serious about it, and have maybe tried things like Amo, Amas and Amat first to check you're going to properly get into it. That said, the set make a really good independant study course and is how I learnt a fair amount of my Greek.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Decided I want to try and get into Oxford/Cambridge in a few years and I figured it'd help considering I don't currently do a language! Planning on taking a GCSE in it when I've learnt. Starting volunteering for my Duke of Edinburgh next week, all very exciting! :yippe:
    Found a really good free website with loads of lessons and worksheets on it, and the guy even does tutoring over skype, going well so far :D

    Thanks for the book recommendations I'll check them out!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's a complete myth that you need to have studied Latin to get into Oxford/Cambridge.

    The only thing that it would be useful for is if you wanted to study Classics - but even then, there's an ab initio course (from scratch) which takes an extra year and is aimed at people who haven't done A level Latin & Greek.

    (And I used to work for a Cambridge admissions office)

    If you're keen to get into a university then your best line of attack is to a) focus on doing well in your main stream school work b) try and get some basics in a modern language if you don't do one at school - a GCSE in a modern language used to be a basic entry requirement for many of the top universitys, that's changing slightly now it's no longer compulsory at secondary school and c) work on developing skills and interest beyond your normal class work in whatever it is you think you might want to study at uni.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh, I know you don't need to of studied it, I just think it'll help. I spoke to a man at BHASVIC the other day (a college) and it came up then. I want to study law at university by the way.

    I've always wanted to learn Latin, and it's just given me a real reason to focus on it. And my mums boyfriend is a university lecturer, and he said to me that he looks for things like Latin/D of E/volunteering... just thought it might be a good thing to do :/
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just to add.... Out of the people who I know who went to Oxbridge, NONE of them did Latin. I went to a language school and even then it wasn't offered, but other Oxbridge people I know didn't do it either. I think for university admissions there are so many things that are more important.

    Like Scary said have you thought about doing another language? One that can actually be spoken? I'm not sure, it just might be easier to stick with, and it can really open up doors, and show you're a good communicator.

    I think (and sort of hope) that universities are getting on board with the idea that languages = important. I know schools no longer have to teach it (bad move in my opinion) but when I was applying UCL were moving towards applicants needing a GCSE in a modern foreign language. Just looked it up now - and all students need to have a language requirement but this can be done through the university once enrolled.

    Having said all that, I don't want to put you off - just wanted to make sure you've covered all your options and it is definitely what you want!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I did 2 languages in year 8/9, had the option of 4 but dropped all of them. Couldn't stand the teachers, got kicked out of French and Spanish and the other two were at lunch and optional for G&T listed kids anyway.
    I just want to learn Latin, whether it'll help me or not. I've looked into the courses I'd be interested in, I know the requirements.
    I just wanted to learn Latin :( was actually quite excited about sorting every thing out but feel all lost and disheartened now :/
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I did 2 languages in year 8/9, had the option of 4 but dropped all of them. Couldn't stand the teachers, got kicked out of French and Spanish and the other two were at lunch and optional for G&T listed kids anyway.
    I just want to learn Latin, whether it'll help me or not. I've looked into the courses I'd be interested in, I know the requirements.
    I just wanted to learn Latin :( was actually quite excited about sorting every thing out but feel all lost and disheartened now :/

    No don't feel disheartened. If you have the motivation, and it is something you really want to do then go for it. I just got the impression that you were doing it for university, and if that was the case there may have been other options. If that's not the case then definitely go for it, as it doesn't matter whether it will help your application or not, and doing something self-taught shows real determination anyway, so if you're sure then definitely give it a shot :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To be honest it doesn't matter. I wouldn't be able to do it anyway.
    Just like the D of E. Even the teachers have said I wont be able to do it. No point
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    et sedit super lecto cat

    :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To be honest it doesn't matter. I wouldn't be able to do it anyway.
    Just like the D of E. Even the teachers have said I wont be able to do it. No point

    I still stand by what I said... So if it's something you really want to do I reckon you will be able to get there. If you keep things realistic and avoid putting too much pressure on yourself I'm sure you'll be able to make a good start :D

    Why did they say that about DofE? Everybody should be able to do it.... Did they give a reason? PM me if you want, can't help on the Latin front but I'll try my best with this. And also remember that you don't have to do it through school. Many other organisations run it. And if for whatever reason you can't do it, it's still really great to have a mix of activities in your life, so volunteering, sport and a skill. That's what matters compared to some award. And also if you start now it'll be easier to pick it up later on as you'll already be doing all the requirements :) all the best
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you want to do Latin, you'll need a lot of self motivation. The same stands for D of E. To succeed at either you'll need to stick at it, even when you get knock backs.

    If you show the same attitude in school that you've just shown here then it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that your teachers don't think you can do it - that doesn't mean however you shouldn't take the opportunity to prove them wrong. One option to go for D of E, and do Latin as your skill for D of E.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They don't think I can do it because of my mental health problems.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Did they actually say that? Because it's bullshit...

    Unless they're worried about how you'd get on with your group for the expedition? I'm not sure...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Most schools don't do Latin and none of the law students I knew at UCL and Oxford had ever studied it. I did it as an extra GCSE because I wanted to do Classics but found that even to get in to Classics and UCL and Cambridge, I didn't need it.

    On the subject of the Reading Latin books; they're Cambridge UP and whilst they're excellent they're not designed for self-teaching.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They don't think I can do it because of my mental health problems.

    This is also bullshit. I went to Oxford and their pastoral care was outstanding. Of course it depends on the college, but the central disabilities and support office is really excellent.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Did they actually say that? Because it's bullshit...

    Unless they're worried about how you'd get on with your group for the expedition? I'm not sure...

    Every teacher I've spoken to about it, including my mentor, has laughed and gone "YOU'RE doing the D of E?" As far as I've gathered, they don't think I'll make it to the expedition (which I might add is only going to be up a local hill with a group of 3 friends...) I asked my mentor why I couldn't do it, and he said I wouldn't be able to because of the physical (the extent of my self harm makes any physical activity difficult) and apparently I wont be any good at volunteering because of how low I get sometimes.
    The other teachers have just taken the piss, like when I asked a PE teacher what sports clubs there are on Wednesdays he laughed and told me to join the boys full contact rugby club. I asked him what girls clubs there are and he told me I could join rugby or nothing and then walked away.

    Can I please just make it clear as well, I know I don't need Latin. I've just been told, by university lectures and college teachers, that things like that will help me stand out.
    It's something I've wanted to learn for a while. I know I don't need it to get into uni.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    just get a couple of basics books, and see how you get on and whether you enjoy it in reality rather than just the idea of it.

    Also it will show you whether youve got the self motivation and self discipline to take it further.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/mn/search/?ref_=nb_sb_noss&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=learning%20latin&x=0&y=0&rd=1
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Can you see if anywhere else offers D of E? Maybe youth clubs or something? I did mine through school but I'm sure there were other places in my town that offered it...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    piccolo wrote: »

    On the subject of the Reading Latin books; they're Cambridge UP and whilst they're excellent they're not designed for self-teaching.

    Even with the independant study guide? I was assuming they followed a similar style to the Reading Greek course, which with the study guide seems to work pretty well for self teachinig.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Even with the independant study guide? I was assuming they followed a similar style to the Reading Greek course, which with the study guide seems to work pretty well for self teachinig.

    They are good; I had the teachers' book for the Reading Latin book I used at uni, but I didn't find it the most accessible.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've not learnt Latin but I have learnt Portuguese and found the Teach Yourself series to be very good e.g. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Teach-Yourself-Latin-Complete-Courses/dp/0340867035/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321316938&sr=1-3

    But I found the teaching at home aspect very difficult, learning in class slightly easier and learning in country the best (not sure how you'd do that for Latin though :) )

    Good luck to you :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    http://www.cambridgescp.com/Lpage.php?p=clc^top^home

    I used those, and thought they were very good. There's lots of free online stuff that's really helpful too.

    There's cheap copies of the books on Amazon as well.
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    LauraOLauraO Posts: 535 Incredible Poster
    Hey Broken-Angel,

    It sounds as though you have decided to learn Latin and do your DOE because you want to and they both sound like something you'd enjoy. It's great to have hobbies and something to work towards :) and of course these can both look great on your CV too for UCAS and for applying for jobs later on in life.

    With the Latin, if you decide to teach yourself rather than pay for lessons then it gives you the flexibility to try it out. There is also no time pressure; you can dip in and out when you want, and if you aren't feeling up to it one day then noone will mind. It sounds like a great thing to put your mind to, as long as you are concentrating on your other subjects too.

    Your teachers sound very negative about the DOE which is disheartening for you. It's not nice for people to tell you you can't do something and if you want to work towards it then nothing should stop you. You sounded genuinely really excited about doing this, so try not to let other peoples' opinions get you down and go for it if you want to :thumb: As Kat_B said there are other places that you could work towards the award if your Teachers are being unsupportive, check out your local group here:http://www.dofe.org/takepart/

    Good luck with doing both of these things, they sound really great!
    LauraO
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Latin is quite......well, it is a very curious language, quirky I think! You set off thinking it will be this and that, mother of all tongues etc like Nature is above us and around us, etc etc, and then it just becomes one of them, it fits in v. nicely.

    At Christ Church interview, the public schooly types had done Latin, most didn't like it and dropped it when they could- I expect the language teaching in the expensive schools isn't as up to scratch as the Entitleds would prefer....anyway but previous knowledge is v. v. useful, you swim through all the declension/case learning.
    I started somewhere in November, might take the GCSE this year, also might have to up the work to a more feverish level if I want a worth-it grade. My teacher told me that the closing date for entries was March-ish.
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