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U.S. invasion of Iraq?
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I know you arent ignorant enough to think that was the entirety of the yugoslav wars...
Opinions vary...
Now now...
Again, I repeat that you have a very limited and twisted concept of history. 10 years isn't recent by historic standards, it's TODAY! Maybe we should only look at what happens this week?
The problem with having a board focused on teenagers...too many think anything that happened before they were born is of no importance...
Roger that.
However, those who shape the policies and events of the world are seldom the teenages with the short attention span, and shorter memory.
Is there something wrong with this then?
Would you have preferred that Kuwait was left to rot? Or are you suggesting that we shouldn't have got involved there, because we don't in other places?
Should the US/UK get involved in every dispute?
If, however, they intervened because they were just protecting their own interests, they should at least come clean and stop bothering the rest of the world with their moralistic lecturing every time they choose to bomb a country or invade another.
When you consider that the death penalty is considered to be a human rights abuse, the US really has little moral stand there
Why not?
If the US gets involved, the left wing criticises - if they don't, the left wing says "why aren't you doing anything?"
Remember that there are other countries around, who could support the US, but many don't. Surely rather than expecting the US to always intervene we should ask why other countries don't
They need public support. Simple as that. Can you imagine the uproar in 1991 if they had said "We're going into Kuwait so that we can line the pockets of Esso/Shell/BP"?
The fact that Iraq was an aggressor meant that the public could support the action, in which the oil supply was a part but not the whole.
Why not? The UN does it...
The USA cant possibly intervene in every dodgy country on earth, they simply dont have the manpower or finances. They have to pick and choose. They have to choose those they can help and put those people ahead of those they cant.
US gets tired of getting drug into everyone else's dispute. Not happy with "meals on wheels" programs. Somalia was a humanitarian deployment that got ugly when a warlord decided to appropriate for himself, and let the civilians fend for themselves.
Where we have a national interest, we get involved.
Not enjoyable playing the world's policeman AND charity organization. We get involved to forestall the eventuality of another of those world wars we got drug into... THAT is our national interest. :rolleyes:
I think that US everytime that there is something to have(oil, other) is always first... other times, when it haven't interest, wait so much... when iraq attacked Kuwait, the day after they was there.. when Israel taken other lands with the force where was US? where is today US? one example for all...
why every 10-15 years US need to fight with someone?
cause in this way its gun's factories can work so much?
The countdown is on...month and a half until the B-2's start their egg runs over Bagdad...soon to be beautiful glass bottomed Lake Bagdad...let the escivation begin...:
Preticted/able date is September 11, 2002, at the crack of dawn over Iraq...a lovely glow will contain the region for a few days but the 11th will be particularally spectacular...with an after glow to die for!
Ahhhh...technology! Guidance from the stratosphere and down the chimneys discuized as minorets...every royal palace, every factory, every military instilation, everything that 'was' Iraq...and soon thereafter the Kurds will rule over 'greater Kurdistan' with the same loving care and benovilence they receiver from the sad man of Bagdad...make that Lake Bagdad after the 11th!
:eek:
Shall we also mention that Italy is the worlds largest manufacturer and distributor of LAND MINES.
Pietro Berretta is a leading arms supplier to the militaries of the world.
The Isaelis have repeatedly tried to negotiate, to begin peace talks e.t.c. but the palestinians keep blowing them up. In my opinion if the Palestinians refuse to negotiate then they deserve everything get.
As for UN sanctions against the Iraqis, maybe when and if Saddam decides to stop making weapons of mass destruction and removes himself from power we won't be forced to destroy his country.
Anyone see his little speech of defiance? I bet he's shitting himself.
and all the other weapon?
Italy haven't atomic weapon...
we are nearly all for peace... we are tired of war... in europe there are war from 2000 before Christ...
if i remember good in 1945 US use atomic weapon on Japan.. to not speak about other things.. here in europe i haven't see a war cause i'm young, but i listen my grandfather, my grandmother, my father, my mother and all old people and a war isn't good thing...
US have never combat in his territory and the most of American don't know how mean that... or not?
I respect all the soldier and all the people died in a war or similar(like cursed 11 semptember)cause they die in the war often without a right reason... but i can't to agree with incoherent, by my point of view, with american politics...
why US, the most powerful nation of the world, and
on the end i ask you: why?
if a new state take land from GB or US with force what they do?
i'm not agree with Israelians and Palestinians, i'm for the right...
but i don't understand why Israel kill 15 civilians to kill one terrorist when the situation go to be for peace.. they are the same of Palestinians...and i'm surprise also about this: like all we know israelians have endured the most bad persecutionof history.. why they do the same with Palestinians?
what about Palestinian civilians, why every thing is allowed to Israel to do with Plastinians , why Israeli committed many massacres agains Palestinans, aren't Palestinas civilians humans or animals by your view or Israeli view.
if we agree with you that there are terrorist attacks by some Palestinians - although i do not agree with this because they defend them self and protect themselves- but issume this. why Israili using F16 agains inocent children and women.before 2 days..isn't that a state terrorisim. There are many evidences that shows killing of civilian Palestinians by Israel...
oh...yes:(
why?
Israel had tried to offer peace, had it thrown back in their faces and then had to face suicide bombs targetted at women and children.
Now while I don't condone bombing in such a manner as we have seen in the past coupld or days, you cannot really blame them, can you?
it's right for you? today i condone all two... but on the start i condone only israeli...IT'S NOT RIGHT!!!!
you have never thought why people give their life to kill other people?
you have never ask to yourself?
Taken the land? You mean conquered the land in counter-attacks after they were attacked, don't you? Not right? Sorry, it's how most peoples came to be on the land they live on, including yours.
Read the Charter. That's the way it is.
and why did Israel take that land?
Like I said, I don't condone what they do, but I understand why they do it. Imagine being surrounded by people who have sworn to wipe your country off the face of the earth, and then consider your reaction when those people invade you and having failed then try to use terror tactics instead.
The attacks on Israel have existed for longer than Israel had occupied those territories...
Actually, Israeli people do live on that land, or at least some of it.
And Marco, how do you think your ancestors got the land you live on? The took it from someone else. Maybe you should give it back. :rolleyes:
And really Aladdin, who are you to decide what a nation should do and when? Those lands are only called the "occupied territories" because Israel agreed to call them that. And they might be returned, to their previous owners, only their previous owners don't want them. Seems that they had to evict the current residents after those same "Palestinians" attempted to overthrow the gov'ts of their nations.
As for the silly assertion that no one except Iraq is calling for the destruction of Israel, I suggest you do a little further research. Actions speak far louder than words. Nor do I see you posting anything that makes me think you are qualified in any way to evaluate military matters, so I won't even bother to correct your ignorance relating to the relative military strengths in the region.