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Well well... Someone's afraid of going to Hell!
BillieTheBot
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Blair donates proceedings from his book to British Legion
Nice try Tony. You're still a cunt with the blood of tens of thousands of people in your hand. I think it's going to take a bit more than this to gain forgiveness from anyone, deity or otherwise...
Nice try Tony. You're still a cunt with the blood of tens of thousands of people in your hand. I think it's going to take a bit more than this to gain forgiveness from anyone, deity or otherwise...
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Trying to gain redemption or not, I think people should be happy he is doing this for the RBL.
As for G, I see no reason why he shouldn't keep the money. It's what he's been doing for years. The fact that this nation's foreign policy was set simply in order to give this man his millions to retire on is an absolute scandal. He hasn't shown any remorse for the illegal war he took us into, he's never expressed any doubts, he's never apologised. Indeed, the man is under the belief that he has a direct line with God and that he's only accountable to him. Never mind people wondering whether Gordon Brown was mentally ill - it's Blair that's clearly a few olives short of a pizza.
You want to do something that'll see you possibly redeem yourself, Tony? Then go and crawl into a hole and die, you insufferable cunt. Alternatively, if you don't like that idea, here's something. Retire from public life immediately and spend the rest of your days working for the charities that are out in Iraq and Afghanistan dealing with the shit-storms you unleashed. Spend the rest of your life doing that, and not making any money out of it or giving a single interview to the press, and I just might have something positive to say when the day of your death comes.
Because as it is currently, I'd dearly love to piss on your grave.
Still, I'd rather he give the money to charity than not. At least the charity is going to use it helping people.
This.
The man can do no right can he? FFS. Would it be better if he kept the money for himself, certainly people have criticised him for making a huge pile since leaving office. When he gives it to a [very worthy] charity, people criticise him for that.
Seriously, get over yourselves.
I don't either. Which is why giving several million pounds away is something we should be praising him for, not damning him.
Oh purlease. Grow up.
There's that "illegal" word again *yawns*
Or has he suddenly realised he needs to make a good will gesture to keep the public off his back? Not to mention certain war crimes tribunals...
Who says he hasn't?
This would be the public that voted him back in, after it had become clear that there weren't any WMD and the tribunals that aren't happening?
Poor bastard cant win lol
Why should he get to?
And as far as I'm concerned, unless he admits in public he was wrong and he lied to us, the UN and the world in an attempt to gain approval for his stupid war, and refers himself to an international court for various breaches of international law, he will continue to be a despicable, blood stained war criminal even if he donated every last penny he owned.
Does it matter? If someone does the right thing for the wrong reasons, they still did the right thing, no?
Certainly not when the person in question caused all the deaths, injuries and misery faced by the charity in the first place (not to mention hundreds of thousands of others who won't see a penny of it), and did so under false pretenses and after lying to the entire world about it.
If he did that, he'd be giving a lot less go than he is now - I'll wager these charities need money more than volunteers. I don't think a soldier in rehab with his leg blown off is going to complain that the money funding his rehabilitation may have come from TB with ulterior motives.
The public had a crap choice to make, and they made a crap choice, because they were only offered crap. Indeed. EVERYTHING that Tony Blair did came with ulterior motives. He has got to rate as one of the most dishonest politicans ever to run this country, and there's certainly no shortage of competition. Poor Gordon couldn't even beat Tony in the lying stakes, despite him constantly trying.
Im entirely confused that one day there will be (and likely allready is) a quite truthful politician, and simply because of the job he does he is hounded by people like SG.
SG maybe the politicians behave, as thats all we ever expect of them.
Our entire way of life is dependant upon cheap oil. As your leader, it was his job to defend and preserve our way of life.
As the reserves around the world are depleted, only those who fight hardest can have cheap oil; that means war, and only war.
Every time you use some plastic, every time you drive a car or switch on your television, you are a part of the demand for cheap oil; you are part of the demand for war. Every cheap-oil product you buy, from a CD to a banana, is a demand for war.
By using plastic, you are actively condoning his choice to go to war.
If you really want ‘no blood for oil’, you have to also demand no oil for yourself and your compatriots. If you really want the fighting to be ‘not in your name’, you must show that the oil is not for your use.
Send your car keys to the Department of the Environment tomorrow morning. Once the government has figured out a way of effectively recycling your vehicles, we will come and collect them.
Oh, and since you somehow failed to deduce an answer to the question in my previous response, I'll make it clearer. Yes, I honestly believe I would be able to do a better job.
Or are you just using your usual strategy of waiting for me to answer one question you claim is very important before asking me another twenty?
At least all other UK wars for as long as the PM position existed had some imperial bent, to ward off an invader/nearby threat, or were due to complex European scenarios, but his war was based on a lie.
And he calls himself a Christian lol. That really tops it off.
That's all very nice SG, and I'm sure you enjoyed an opportunity to abuse several politicians there. However you missed the point.
You questioned whether Blair donated the money because "he suddenly realised he needs to make a good will gesture to keep the public off his back? Not to mention certain war crimes tribunals..."
The public aren't actually on his back and there are no tribunals.
So, what other motive do you think he had? I'm sure you'll come up with one.
I have an idea. Maybe he actually knows that his decisions in power have consequences - in the instance of sending people out to fight in a war people get hurt. RBL exists to support them He is wealthy. So he has donated money.
You talk about him never giving money to charity before (without evidence of course), but make no mention of the fact that both of his predecessors sent people into war and yet there is no disclosure of if they have given a single penny to the RBL.
To me this is like the outcry over Brown's letter to the parent of the dead serviceman. People don't like his politics so bitch about a truly good act. Can't see the wood for the trees, some people.
He also knows people are very selective in what they remember, so most of them will still be unaware of just how duplicitous he really was during his time in office.
You neglect to point out that I actually heavily critcised The Sun when that came out. Even I thought it was an attack too far, and I'm pretty relaxed when it comes to seeing Gordon Brown being shot at from all sides.
There a certain sector of the population asking questions, adding 2+2 just to see if they come up with something other than 4. Just as there is a sector who ask questions about moon landings, Kennedy assassinations, WTC attacks, London bombings, the real causes behind WW2 and whether the holocaust actually happened.
People ask questions. Doesn't mean that they are correct, or that anything will come of it.
In fact, if it's as much of a conspiracy as those people think then you can be damned certain that no trial or tribunal would ever take place. Even if it did, they would only accept a guilty verdict and would question validity if it found anything else.
The court of public whispering isn't going to get him to donate millions any more than a protest march would get him to avoid any type of conflict in the first place.
I didn't neglect to mention anything because I didn't say that you were part of that outcry because I know that you wasn't.
My point was that the outcry about this remind me of that one. It's not about the man's actions, it's about something completely different.
Anyone that says Blair shouldn't have donated this money should hang their head in shame. Say that he should never have gone to war, fine. But don't suggest that injured service personnel shouldn't benefit from this money because the donor didn't suit your political beliefs is offensive. IMHO.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/blair-sets-great-example-to-children-who-want-to-kill-people-201008163006/
yes. I wouldn't have invaded in the first place.
I disagree. It is the oil companies keeping back alternative forms of energy. Besides, nuclear power, wind power and wave power could sustain the UK alone. In the long run, the solution to the world's energy problems is to litter the Sahara desert with solar panels. With the heat/sun present there, it would provide enough energy for the world to run on.
Another alternative is to litter Antartica with solar panels. it may be cold there, but there is six months of unbroken sunshine.
Cars tend not to run on solar power, no do they have nuclear reactors and waves tend to damage the upholstery.
Ah, I hear you say, they could run on the electricity which these generate.
Indeed you would be right. Not sure how you'd address each of these products though - some of which actually go towards making the cars... - but each has an element of crude oil in them.
Plastics (inc. Ethylene and propylene)
Lubricating oils, waxes, polishes
Bitumen
Clothing Ink
Heart Valves
Crayons
Parachutes
Telephones
Enamel
Transparent tape
Antiseptics
Vacuum bottles
Deodorant
Pantyhose
Rubbing Alcohol
Carpets
Epoxy paint
Oil filters
Upholstery
Hearing Aids
Car sound insulation
Cassettes
Motorcycle helmets
Pillows
Shower doors
Shoes
Refrigerator linings
Electrical tape
Safety glass
Awnings
Salad bowl
Rubber cement
Nylon rope
Ice buckets
Fertilizers
Hair coloring
Toilet seats
Denture adhesive
Loudspeakers
Movie film
Fishing boots
Candles
Water pipes
Car enamel
Shower curtains
Credit cards
Aspirin
Golf balls
Detergents
Sunglasses
Glue
Fishing rods
Linoleum
Plastic wood
Soft contact lenses
Trash bags
Hand lotion
Shampoo
Shaving cream
Footballs
Paint brushes
Balloons
Fan belts
Umbrellas
Paint Rollers
Luggage
Antifreeze
Model cars
Floor wax
Sports car bodies
Tires
Dishwashing liquids
Unbreakable dishes
Toothbrushes
Toothpaste
Combs
Tents
Hair curlers
Lipstick
Ice cube trays
Electric blankets
Tennis rackets
Drinking cups
House paint
Rollerskate wheels
Guitar strings
Ammonia
Eyeglasses
Ice chests
Life jackets
TV cabinets
Car battery cases
Insect repellent
Refrigerants
Typewriter ribbons
Cold cream
Glycerin
Plywood adhesive
Cameras
Anesthetics
Artificial turf
Artificial Limbs
Bandages
Dentures
Mops
Beach Umbrellas
Ballpoint pens
Boats
Nail polish
Golf bags
Caulking
Tape recorders
Curtains
Vitamin capsules
Dashboards
Putty
Percolators
Skis
Insecticides
Fishing lures
Perfumes
Shoe polish
Petroleum jelly
Faucet washers
Food preservatives
Antihistamines
Cortisone
Dyes
LP records
Solvents
Roofing