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Ten things we waste

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
1. --Our Knowledge-- Wasted by not taking action with it.

2. --Our Actions-- Wasted by committing them with out sincerity.

3. --Our Wealth-- Wasted by using on things that will not bring us ajr. We waste our money, our status, our authority, on things which have no benefit in this life or in akhirah.

4. --Our Hearts-- Wasted because they are empty from the love of God, and the feeling of longing to go to Him, and a feeling of peace and contentment. In it's place, our hearts are filled with something or someone else.

5. --Our Bodies-- Wasted because we don't use them in ibadah and service of God

6. --Our Love-- Our emotional love is misdirected, not towards God, but towards something/someone else.

7. --Our Time-- Wasted, not used properly, to compensate for that which has passed, by doing what is righteous to make up for past deeds

8. --Our Intellect-- Wasted on things that are not beneficial, that are detremental to society and the individual, not in contemplation or reflection.

9. --Our Service-- Wasted in service of someone who will not bring us closer to God, or benefit in dunyaa

10. --Our Dhikr-- Wasted, because it does not effect us or our hearts.


Not forgetting Our TONGUE .... thats Wasted as well.. we use our Tongues is unecessary talks, such as gheebah , swearing , cursin , n talkin abt other wrdly stuff .. infact we should use our tongues mostly in saying such stuff which would benefit others and not cause harmss.. it is said SPEAK GOOD OR REMAIN SILENT
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I say fuck shit cunt wank bollocks.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My time - Reading your shit.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    How many of these constitutes spam?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lol, I've seen this before, except that no.10 was
    10. Our Dhikr (Remembrence of Allah)
    .

    I guess this dude isn't Islamic :-)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    garfield2 wrote: »
    1. --Our Knowledge-- Wasted by not taking action with it.

    2. --Our Actions-- Wasted by committing them with out sincerity.

    3. --Our Wealth-- Wasted by using on things that will not bring us ajr. We waste our money, our status, our authority, on things which have no benefit in this life or in akhirah.

    4. --Our Hearts-- Wasted because they are empty from the love of God, and the feeling of longing to go to Him, and a feeling of peace and contentment. In it's place, our hearts are filled with something or someone else.

    5. --Our Bodies-- Wasted because we don't use them in ibadah and service of God

    6. --Our Love-- Our emotional love is misdirected, not towards God, but towards something/someone else.

    7. --Our Time-- Wasted, not used properly, to compensate for that which has passed, by doing what is righteous to make up for past deeds

    8. --Our Intellect-- Wasted on things that are not beneficial, that are detremental to society and the individual, not in contemplation or reflection.

    9. --Our Service-- Wasted in service of someone who will not bring us closer to God, or benefit in dunyaa

    10. --Our Dhikr-- Wasted, because it does not effect us or our hearts.


    Not forgetting Our TONGUE .... thats Wasted as well.. we use our Tongues is unecessary talks, such as gheebah , swearing , cursin , n talkin abt other wrdly stuff .. infact we should use our tongues mostly in saying such stuff which would benefit others and not cause harmss.. it is said SPEAK GOOD OR REMAIN SILENT
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    What a load of bollocks.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    11. Our bandwidth?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MoK wrote: »
    11. Our bandwidth?

    :lol: :thumb:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This sound like across between Islam and bollocks.. hang on a minute :chin:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    When I read the thread title, I thought you were going to be talking about things like yoghurt pots which we could make bird feeders from etc.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    grace wrote: »
    When I read the thread title, I thought you were going to be talking about things like yoghurt pots which we could make bird feeders from etc.

    I know. This OP wasted a couple of minutes of my life.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This is real thing in life.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    garfield2 wrote: »
    This is real thing in life.

    What is? Allah/God? Prove it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am affected by Synaesthesia and I see things that are not there. They look real enough but I know that they're not real. Syn is medically proven.

    Granted, there may be hundreds of millions of people who claimed to have seen and spoken God or Allah but they're yet to prove it to us mere 'mortals'. Until it's proven, I will carry on woshipping Disney :-P
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Will post the evidence soon.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I look forward to it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    garfield2 wrote: »
    Will post the evidence soon.

    I won't hold my breath.

    Remember, I ask for 'proof'.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    *twidles thumbs*

    *whistles*

    I imagine I'll be doing this for a while, whilst we wait for proof.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    garfield2 wrote: »
    This is real thing in life.

    Real things? Yoghurt pots are real, I've got proof of that. Still waiting for the Allah proof though...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I didn't know there was evangelical Islam?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    garfield2 wrote: »
    Will post the evidence soon.
    Oh the wonders of the internet and ctrl + c/ ctrl + v.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Without any sarcasm, I would truly love to see evidence of a god's existence.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think people should focus more on disproving the various religions rather than disproving the existance of God. Deism isn't so bad. There's nothing wrong in just believing in God, so long as you still us your common sense and logic and reason in other aspects of life.

    Believing in a religion and living your life according to an ancient, out-of-date scripture is what causes problems.

    That's my opinion anyway. Feel free to differ.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    sanitize wrote: »
    I think people should focus more on disproving the various religions rather than disproving the existance of God. Deism isn't so bad. There's nothing wrong in just believing in God, so long as you still us your common sense and logic and reason in other aspects of life.

    Believing in a religion and living your life according to an ancient, out-of-date scripture is what causes problems.

    That's my opinion anyway. Feel free to differ.
    Agreed.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Here you are.If you do not see the proof then i have another proof.


    CONGRATULATING AN ATHEIST


    Normally, when I meet an atheist, the first thing I like to do is to congratulate him and say, " My special congratulations to you", because most of the people who believe in God are doing blind belief - he is a Christian, because his father is a Christian; he is a Hindu, because his father is a Hindu; the majority of the people in the world are blindly following the religion of their fathers. An atheist, on the other hand, even though he may belong to a religious family, uses his intellect to deny the existence of God; what ever concept or qualities of God he may have learnt in his religion may not seem to be logical to him.

    My Muslim brothers may question me, "Zakir, why are you congratulating an atheist?" The reason that I am congratulating an atheist is because he agrees with the first part of the Shahada i.e. the Islamic Creed, ‘La ilaaha’ - meaning ‘there is no God’. So half my job is already done; now the only part left is ‘il lallah’ i.e. ‘BUT ALLAH’ which I shall do Insha Allah. With others (who are not atheists) I have to first remove from their minds the wrong concept of God they may have and then put the correct concept of one true God.


    LOGICAL CONCEPT OF GOD


    My first question to the atheist will be: "What is the definition of God?" For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God. His concept of God would be derived from the surroundings in which he lives. The god that a large number of people worship has got human qualities - therefore he does not believe in such a god. Similarly a Muslim too does not and should not believe in such false gods.

    If a non-Muslim believes that Islam is a merciless religion with something to do with terrorism; a religion which does not give rights to women; a religion which contradicts science; in his limited sense that non-Muslim is correct to reject such Islam. The problem is he has a wrong picture of Islam. Even I reject such a false picture of Islam, but at the same time, it becomes my duty as a Muslim to present the correct picture of Islam to that non-Muslim i.e. Islam is a merciful religion, it gives equal rights to the women, it is not incompatible with logic, reason and science; if I present the correct facts about Islam, that non-Muslim may Inshallah accept Islam.

    Similarly the atheist rejects the false gods and the duty of every Muslim is to present the correct concept of God which he shall Insha Allah not refuse.

    (You may refer to my article, ‘Concept of God in Islam’, for more details)


    QUR’AN AND MODERN SCIENCE


    The methods of proving the existence of God with usage of the material provided in the ‘Concept of God in Islam’ to an atheist may satisfy some but not all.

    Many atheists demand a scientific proof for the existence of God. I agree that today is the age of science and technology. Let us use scientific knowledge to kill two birds with one stone, i.e. to prove the existence of God and simultaneously prove that the Qur’an is a revelation of God.

    If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don’t grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it.

    SCIENTIFIC FACTS MENTIONED IN THE QUR’AN: for details on this subject please refer to my book, ‘THE QUR’AN AND MODERN SCIENCE – COMPATIBLE OR INCOMPATIBLE?


    THEORY OF PROBABILITY


    In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

    A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

    Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

    At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

    The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

    Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.



    The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.


    CREATOR IS THE AUTHOR OF THE QUR’AN


    The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the ‘CREATOR’, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is ‘God’, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ‘ALLAH’.


    QUR’AN IS A BOOK OF SIGNS AND NOT SCIENCE


    Let me remind you that the Qur’an is not a book of Science, ‘S-C-I-E-N-C-E’ but a book of Signs ‘S-I-G-N-S’ i.e. a book of ayaats. The Qur’an contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. ‘signs’, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. I am not trying to prove that the Qur’an is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yard stick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified. For us Muslims the Qur’an is the Furqan i.e. criteria to judge right from wrong and the ultimate yardstick which is more superior to scientific knowledge.

    But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. We do know that science many a times takes ‘U’ turns, therefore I have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions. Using the ultimate yardstick of the atheist, I am trying to prove to him that the Qur’an is the word of God and it contains the scientific knowledge which is his yardstick which was discovered recently, while the Qur’an was revealed 1400 year ago. At the end of the discussion, we both come to the same conclusion that God though superior to science, is not incompatible with it.


    SCIENCE IS ELIMINATING MODELS OF GOD BUT NOT GOD


    Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’).

    Surah Fussilat:

    "Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"

    [Al-Quran 41:53]
    :wave:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wish I had the time to pick apart what you just pasted there, but I don't, so I'll sum it up quickly: absolute, complete and utter bullshit. I'd like to debate it but you don't seem capable of discussion using your own words...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't feed the troll guys. It just makes him worse.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wish I had the time to pick apart what you just pasted there, but I don't, so I'll sum it up quickly: absolute, complete and utter bullshit. I'd like to debate it but you don't seem capable of discussion using your own words...

    Ready to debate whever you want.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    garfield2 wrote: »
    Ready to debate whever you want.

    You are not 'debating'. Your thoughts here are not your own. You have just stolen great quantities of text from someone else.

    Think for yourself!

    May I suggest that you re-read your own post :
    garfield2 wrote: »
    Normally, when I meet an atheist, the first thing I like to do is to congratulate him and say, " My special congratulations to you", because most of the people who believe in God are doing blind belief - he is a Christian, because his father is a Christian; he is a Hindu, because his father is a Hindu; the majority of the people in the world are blindly following the religion of their fathers.

    This goes for Muslims too. You are a Muslim because your parents are Muslims. But you are too fearful to question the Qur’an because you fear losing your family, your friends and depending on which country you are from, possibly your life.

    Now, seeing that you are expounding the Qur’an as your inspiration, let's disect THAT one bit at a time and see if if this is PROOF of your God.

    What does the Qur'an have to say about where sperm is created?

    S. 86:5-7

    B]86.5[/B So let man consider of what he is created:
    B]86.6[/B He is created of water pouring forth,
    B]86.7[/B Coming from between the back and the ribs.

    Yeah, whatever. This is obviously completely wrong. And if this is wrong, then the Qur’an cannot be the perfect word of God.

    I have plenty more ridiculous examples from the Qur’an for you to ponder but we can start with this above example.

    Let the debate begin!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    sanitize wrote: »
    I think people should focus more on disproving the various religions rather than disproving the existance of God. Deism isn't so bad. There's nothing wrong in just believing in God, so long as you still us your common sense and logic and reason in other aspects of life.

    Believing in a religion and living your life according to an ancient, out-of-date scripture is what causes problems.

    That's my opinion anyway. Feel free to differ.

    Actually, I agree with you too. I have no idea who lit the touch paper that started the whole Big Bang process off etc but certainly, I have no faith in religious texts. The issue here is that garfield2 is calling on his Qur’an for backup. Silly move.
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