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It's all very boring, so I'd like to marry a horse. Or something.

Is it just me or is politics in this country really fucking dull at the moment? Labour are too busy choosing which unelectable cunt - I'm supporting Ed Balls, if anyone's wondering - to put in charge of their party to actually provide an Opposition to the government, and the Coalition (ConDems, ConLibs, LibCons, or whatever they're calling themselves for the next five minutes) are yet to make any big cock-ups. I should be full of fury, considering there's talk of the Credit Crunch Mark Two in the air, and that this government is determined to make sure the law doesn't apply to them. But I frankly can't be arsed writing about that today.

Instead, I'm going to take the easy way out, and link to an article from the Daily Mail. (do you really have to? - Ed) Yesterday, they were complaining that a government website which was taking the public's suggestions for laws to be scrapped had turned into "a farce". I disagree entirely. I think there are some very sensible suggestions in the list they provided...

Make prostitution and drugs legal? I'd vote for that. Repeal the hunting ban? Yes, please. End the ban on marrying a horse? Well, it's not my right to tell someone they can't marry a horse. Repeal "extreme pornography" law? Yes, I'd happily see that ditched. Scrap the Human Rights Act? Absolutely. Remove all speed limits on motorways? Now you're talking!

What laws would you like to see scrapped?
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ASBOs
    Firearms Act 1997
    Figital Economy
    Hunting Ban
    The Copyright Act 1911, 1958 and Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988
    Smoking Ban
    Extreme Porngraphy (section 63 Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008)
    Misuse of Drugs Act 1971
    The Terrorist Act
    Those fucking ID cards
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Haha, I heard about this one. The law of gravity got a suggestion, I believe. :d

    I'm interested to know how marrying a horse would work though. I can't imagine there are many tax advantages to be had.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    minimi38 wrote: »
    Those fucking ID cards
    You'll be pleased to know that those are in the process of being scrapped.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    Scrap the Human Rights Act? Absolutely.

    Reasons?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    Scrap the Human Rights Act? Absolutely.

    It may not be perfect, but we have that to thank for terrorism legislation not going completely over the top. Yes it is largely used by criminals but that's because when you are accused of a crime you need adequate protection from the state.

    As for politics being boring at the moment, personally I'd say its anything but. They are punishing the weak for the debt and as always those at the bottom are going to loose out. But then that's the very nature of our society at the moment which is why it is so violent.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    What laws would you like to see scrapped?
    Whatever law lets you use the word 'cunt' every other sentence.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    Whatever law lets you use the word 'cunt' every other sentence.

    That would be the law on freedom of speech...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    It may not be perfect, but we have that to thank for terrorism legislation not going completely over the top. Yes it is largely used by criminals but that's because when you are accused of a crime you need adequate protection from the state.
    .

    Has it?

    Surely we've had more laws such as 40 day detention since we've had it than we had before
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Has it?

    Surely we've had more laws such as 40 day detention since we've had it than we had before

    True, although without it I think they would have gone further and it allows for the EU court which consistantly votes againt the UK.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Stuff like the smoking ban (even though I'm not a smoker) and compensation culture (e.g. when a robber breaks into a house, cuts himself on a window and then sues the house owner / victim). Perhaps tone down on H & S a little. When I volunteered for my local council a while back, there was an A4 pad that's kept by the first aid box and you had to write down every single incident even if it was only a paper cut or you spilt your hot tea over your hands.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    True, although without it I think they would have gone further and it allows for the EU court which consistantly votes againt the UK.

    We already had the European Court of Human Rights and I'm not sure the longer detention limits were stopped by the Act and more by the fact the opposition parties voted against and the Govt couldn't gain support from enough of its backbenchers.

    Don't get me wrong - I don't think it does any harm, it just doesn't do any good either and if it was scrapped there would be no pratical difference
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    As for politics being boring at the moment, personally I'd say its anything but. They are punishing the weak for the debt...
    It's a Saturday and I've had a tough week, I can be excused for not seeming to foam in the mouth in anger about that. I'll be back to my usual state of dementedness (if that is a word) in a day or two.

    The weak are being punished? Indeed they are. In much the same way the previous government did the same. We're all getting utterly shafted.
    Namaste wrote: »
    Whatever law lets you use the word 'cunt' every other sentence.
    Free speech grants me the right to say the word "cunt", in the same way it grants you the right to object to my use of the word "cunt". Although I have reduced my use of the word lately - and no, I haven't received any contact from moderators about this, since I have been asked about it.

    Free speech... but only when you agree eh, Namaste? You've got form for that...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    Free speech... but only when you agree eh, Namaste? You've got form for that...
    Wow, somebody needs a humour transplant. :chin:

    You need to chill out mate.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wouldn't repeal the hunting ban, or the smoking ban...

    I'd reform prostitution, so that only buying sex is punished... I'd regulate drugs, tax them highly, better support to get people off drugs.

    Get rid of sections 132-138 of SOCPA which can restrict the right for people to demonstrate up to 1km from Parliament Square.

    Whilst we're talking about scrapping things... Scrap the UK Trident program. It's not a law, but it is a waste of money.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    The weak are being punished? Indeed they are. In much the same way the previous government did the same. We're all getting utterly shafted.

    No, not all. Those at the bottom of the heap are, as they always are by the current form of our society. At some point perhaps we might wake up and realise that we aim for the wrong things and reward the wrong people.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't get me wrong - I don't think it does any harm, it just doesn't do any good either and if it was scrapped there would be no pratical difference

    I can see your point. And certainly if we just scrapped the law it would make no difference because we would still be signed up to the international treaty and those always trump national law.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    I'd reform prostitution, so that only buying sex is punished...

    I've gotta say, I'm massively undecided on how to deal with the prostitution issue nowadays. My instinct of course is that a transaction between two consenting adults is none of my business, and that there should be allowances for that, while at the same time cracking down hugely on any situation involving people who aren't consenting. But a lot of the evidence suggests that countries like the Netherlands act as a magnet for all of the world's scum exploiting women in a vulnerable situation and if not forcing them into the sex trade, at least making it very difficult for them to do anything else. Logic suggests that a workforce of willing prostitutes who have made the free choice to enter that profession (of which there are undoubtedly many in the Netherlands) would destroy the illegal market. In reality though, that doesn't seem to happen. I don't know if the regulations for the legal practice aren't strong enough, and still suffer from the stigma of the industry that keeps everything behind closed doors too much. But the fact is as long as you have massive income inequality complete with restrictions of freedom of movement in the world, you're always going to get people being exploited as illegal workers, which is obviously more of an issue when we're talking about the sex industry than anyone else. And in places like Thailand, where it is merely tolerated rather than regulated, and Brazil where it is legal, but they presumably lack the resources to properly regulate it, the market it creates opens the door to things like child prostitution too. But the statistics I saw suggest that the majority of prostitutes working in Amsterdam are not doing so legally. Whether this is a failure of regulation and enforcement, or the inevitable result of creating the market in the first place (and particularly the result of it being the only market, rather than it being something that is just legal throughout Europe), I'm still not sure.

    I'd be interested to know the parallels between the prostitution industry and pornography though, which is a bit more established as a legitimate form of business. I know there is plenty of pornography out there which is producers from rich, Western countries and women from poorer parts of the world, and undoubtedly a lot of this relies on the exploitation of women's situations. But if I had to guess, I'd say your average porn star isn't the sort of person who is doing it to put food on the table. They are still generally people who simply made the choice because they wanted the extra money, rather than needed the extra money. So maybe there's something we can learn about prostitution from this?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't get me wrong - I don't think it does any harm, it just doesn't do any good either and if it was scrapped there would be no pratical difference

    :yes:

    On the main topic - it's not a law but one scheme I'd like to see curtailed is the Export Credit and Guarentee Scheme - specifically with regard to BAE & subsiduaries being underwritten by the taxpayer for selling arms to torturing regimes who then default on their payments.

    While we're all banging on about welfare cuts, lets not forget corporations receive this as well as Wayne and Waynetta Snob...
  • SkiveSkive Posts: 15,281 Skive's The Limit
    The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994
    Dangerous Dog Act
    Weekender Offender 
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And why on earth has no one suggested the Government scrap Sod's Law yet?

    Cleggy's already setting to work on repealing the second law of thermodynamics.

    Good grief...
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