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The right to eat the poo-poo
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This anti-gay Ugandan pastor has been going around spreading hatred and lies... In incredibly graphic detail. :sour:
Surely this must be a joke?
This anti-gay Ugandan pastor has been going around spreading hatred and lies... In incredibly graphic detail. :sour:
Surely this must be a joke?
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I'm not doubting the bill...
I mean I am shocked about the graphic detail
He thinks gay people like eating poo poo.
What a twat.
I liked the top-rated comment. LMAO
I see it as so:
- African countries, despite centuries of European contact, have no tradition of freedom, not as we see it anyhow.
- Because of this, they often have conservative social values. most cultures in the world are socially conservative. The West is the exception due to our history (as the movers and shakers of the Enlightenment, human rights, etc.)
So, since Africa has had hundreds, nay thousands, of years of such values, is it fair to blame them if they are arch-social conservatives? Again, most of the world is so.
I'm not condoning their beliefs, but the different backdrops and histories have to be accounted for.
excuse me?
It was the europeans who enslaved africa in the first place.
My point was even though Europeans were in Africa for hundreds of years, they did not leave much cultural mark on the continent.
http://www.globalissues.org/article/84/conflicts-in-africa-introduction
Which lends to my earlier point. To understand where Uganda is coming from, we must understand why they think that way.
The way I see it, either we leave them be, condemn them or place sanctions on them, or persuade them non-coercively to change.
Ok, the written word is not foolproof, but it always has been a superior means of recording information. In Europe, we have written records dating back to the Ancient Greeks, so in a sense this makes our history reliable.
What does this mean? It's a statement that has a surreal property of saying absolutely nothing, yet still being wrong. What are day-to-day African values? What are day-to-day European values? Hell, what are your day-to-day values?
South Africa.
Actually, there is a lot of written evidence, at the time, of open homosexuality in Africa from when the Europeans arrived. As was stated before, it was the mainly the missionaries and European governors that affected African views on homosexuality today, to the point of denial by Africans now that it ever existed. However, homosexual integration into African life was quite widespread, such as in the Zande culture.
India, as another example of European meddling, was also more accepting of homosexuals until the European missionaries arrived as many of the decorations on Indian temples suggest. It was the British that outlawed sodomy in 1860.
There's no need for bad language
African values are different from European values.
The black majority still live by Bantu values.
Isn't Egypt in northern Africa?
Yes, I know that's what you think (you've just restated, almost verbatim, what you said before), but how about answering my questions?
What are 'Bantu values' and 'how do you know that 'the black majority' live by them?
I'd like to know that too please, Kira. What exactly are these 'bantu' values that they live by?
Black South Africans are Bantu. And their adherence to them can be seen via food, dress, and general social values.
I think what people are asking you is if you can identify some of these values, tell us what the content of them are.
I'm not asking you what or who Bantu people are, though I'm sure I remember it being a pejorative term. I'm asking what the values of Africans and Europeans are, being as you've said they are different. I've also asked how you know that 'the majority' adhere to these values? Foods or clothes common to an area aren't values.
I don't think I'm asking ambiguous questions, but you don't seem to want to answer...