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'H & S' ban cub scounts from Harrods
BillieTheBot
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I'm not pro-scouts but this story makes my blood boil. I mean like, they're only kids, and there was security on the premises. What difference would it have been to allow a group of uniformed school children in? It's not like a group of adolescents who have CHAV written all over themselves is it? Every single day that passes in England, I am one step closer to emigrating.
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And I'm a bit confused, I thought you usually complained when the state intervened to prevent discrimination. (ETA I could very well be confusing you for someone else.)
EDIT: Just to let you know, it is a big Morrisons. Like... very big.
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As for Harrods, it's an over-priced hell hole anyway. Any place where a sales assistant thinks it acceptable to look you over and decide you can't afford anything, despite the fact I earn a hell of a lot more than the smarmy bastards anyway can fuck off.
Can't stand sales staff who think they're superior to you.
Stupid.
I mean, I can understand it in a small shop but a massive supermarket?
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What's this got to do with England? I don't see how the country this happened in is somehow at fault here. Boycott Harrods by all means (something I have inadvertently been doing my whole life, having never set foot in the place). But your rage seems a tad disproportionate!
Stories like this drive me crazy, largely for the opportunity they give to people to get hysterical about nothing and proclaim the country is going to the dogs. It's like all the bullshit about how local councils have banned christmas and conkers and all that nonsense. Not at all true, but there's little that feels as good as a bit of righteous indignation!
The fact that there are a few jobsworth types about doesn't mean that the whole nation is doomed. Chill.
Or was it just my troop that was filled with alcoholic, chain smoking tealeafs?
I was in the sea scouts, but in ventures (not rangers! what was I thinking???) I'm fairly sure we all paid for our beer
At least in the past they had the gulls to come out and say it, rather than hiding behind H&S nonsense.
So don't pack your suitcase quite yet Monserrat- certainly not as far as H&S goes.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/
Plus they are the only department store in the UK to still sell animal fur.
Haha!! The reason I quit scouts was because they were the opposite of that... boring boring BORING. And, when ever we went on walks the scouts leader drove along beside us.
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What, like leather?
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Unfortunately for Harrods the men in tracksuits turned out to be a professional football team from somewhere in Eastern Europe, who promptly went elsewhere to spend their ample wages.
I've never got the distinction. Morally, at least. Both are animals being killed to make clothing. I suppose with leather, it's a bi-product of animals that have been killed for other products anyway, so it's not quite as bad. If you drink milk, then it would be weird to have an issue with buying leather, for example, whereas your fur animal might've been killed just for the fur. I'm not sure though, but it just seems weird that fur specifically is very emotive, when in principle it's the same as leather.
And, I don't drink milk
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I dont think they banned the footballers or the scouts because of what they were wearing, but because of the numbers. Its still a bit of a bollocks reason, but its deffo not due to the reasons stated in many of the stories.
Bit like the story of the woman who got in touch with the BNP about a muslim post master in the local post office who apparantly barred the woman because her son was in the army, and he refused to process a parcel to her son. The reason he refused a parcel was because the woman was barred from the post office and a number of shops in the area allready, because she was a grade A cow. The fact that she had a son who was a soldier had nothing to do with it, yet things get twisted.
Maybe harrods is a little militant in the way they react to groups of people, but as with most stories regarding this issue and harrods, its never quite as clear cut as you think.
Plus if scouts are shopping in harrods, they must be getting too much pocket money.
I'm sorry that the Scouts were disappointed, but it shows Harrods up for the fairytale castle it is.
That's confused me. How does the fact that leather is the most valuable part of an animal negate the fact that it's a by-product of raising the animals? Just like meat for dog food is a by-product of the dairy industry, vodka is a by-product of the crisp industry, and marmite is a by-product of the whisky industry. It doesn't matter if these areas are more profitable, it's still the case that these things would just be thrown away if we didn't make use of them. I'm just saying I find the idea of cutting out one product from an animal, and then buying some of the other products is a bit ridiculous. Either cut out the whole of that particular animal, or don't bother.
But anyway, that wasn't really my point. I was just wondering why fur gets all of the criticism. Take seal fur, for example. They're not endangered. They're not held captive purely for the purpose of the things we can kill them for, unlike cows. Yet can you imagine the press if a celebrity wore something made of seal fur? Is it, as I very much suspect, that seals are cute and cows aren't? Admittedly seals in particular are far more intelligent, which usually skews our feelings too, but there are plenty of examples of furs from animals that aren't. Or is it that it presumably takes more seal deaths to make a garment, whereas one cow makes lots of shoes? But yeah, fur gets a lot of animal rights press, but I've never heard the argument as to why I should be more concerned about it than any other animal product.
Bit off topic, admittedly, but how many different ways can you say "Harrods are wankers" anyway?
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Vodka is made from potato.
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