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It's all about freedom, isn't it?
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:q0Yi0eyZ4WMJ:www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/uk-news/422-letter-to-the-families-of-british-soldiers-who-have-diere-currently-in-afghanistan+http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/uk-news/422-letter-to-the-families-of-british-soldiers-who-have-diere-currently-in-afghanistan&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
posted before i read it myself so can't possibly comment atm
Read on
However I'm not sure this is what CptCoatHanger was referring to.
I wasn't aware of anything else he have said.
That's fair enough. But even Nick Griffin may seem to appear rational when his utterances are taken out of the context as a whole. It's the same with this guy. In reality, his extremism makes Nick Griffin come across like Julian Clary.
the problem is that as much as IED etcs not all afghans are resposnsible for that, yet afghan civilians are being killed via drone attacks etc etc
off topic imo i've always been against us going there, unless we were going to actually get a fully functioning non-puppet government that's representative, which in a country as diverse as afghanistan, can only be done in a majorly decentralised government with a lot of local autonomy with us effectively forcing free unbiased elections so warlords have reduced power - but that would never happen as we like to work with 'local power brokers' and paying 'tolls' on roads which fund the taliban
this was always a generally unwinnable war, we failed in the 19th century and the soviet union failed before that, our armed forces are better off doing other things
for christ sake this is who we're actively supporting: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/5080797/Hamid-Karzai-signs-law-legalising-rape-in-marriage.html
I think the whole Iraq "debacle/tragedy/war-crime (Messrs Bush & Blair?) etc etc whatever-you-want-to-call-it", has clouded the reasons for us being in Afghanistan.
Before Moroccan Roll jumps in and states that it was all a conspiracy to go to war etc, 9/11 could never be left unanswered. If those cunts, Bush and Blair, had not taken us into the Iraq war, the will (materially, physically and morally) of most of the international community would have been behind the war and the war against the Taliban COULD have been won. Sure, there may have been a small insurgent issue but not on the scale that we have now. Because of Iraq, hardly any country wants to have their hands bathed in association with the same blood as Bush/Blair.
The combined international concentration of minds on Afghanistan could have been a success .. but Bush/Blair wanted a headnote in history. Well, they have it now. How I just wish they could be charged for war crimes!
Flash had it correct, nothing stop others also demonstrating, peacefully, their disagreement with him.
I agree with you. I was just trying to make the point that his desire to demonstrate is not based on some peace-loving, rational thought but is based on his hate of anyone who isn't a Muslim and, in particular, his brand of extremist Islam. But yes, he should be able to demonstrate.
The good news is that the majority of Americans no longer believe the ludicrous story that a jet liner could have made this hole ...sadly some still do ....
Including all the people who witnessed it crash into the Pentagon?
It's true what was said when people stop believing in God they don't believe in nothing, they believe in everything
The most reliable ones ...the police and Pentagon security people ...tell a story completely at odds with the official one.
As I said though I'm looking forward to judgement day, and enjoying life. Let them march, I think the biggest censure of their actions would be to ignore them completely.
Doesn't matter wether it's the entry or the exit ...a jet liner didn't do it and the majority of Americans now agree.
Sorry James.
Why do you think the answer to 9/11 was an invasion of Afghanistan ?
Because the Taliban were harbouring Bin Laden and allowing him to use their land for planning and launching terror attacks. They were asked to hand him over and they refused.
But we are off topic now so I won't comment any further within this thread.
However, as for Moroccan Roll's comments, its nice to see his dope and absinthe addiction hasn't decreased over the festive season. He's so funny.
Lets get some facts instead of propaganda in here ....the Taliban were in Wasghington six months before 9/11 and they refused a carpet of gold to protect a proposed pipeline from the Caspian sea through AFhganistan.
They were told they woiuld get instead a carpet of bombs ...they were told in no uncertain terms they would be bombed back to the stone age instead.
The terror training camps you swallowed so easily ...think back to the images you were presented with and accepted as a global threat ...they were a few rolls of barbed wire and some rusty monkey bars.
This is where people had trained for years in their dreams of overthrowing the likes of the Saudi royals ...the Israelis even ...they had been there years and were never considered a threat to the west.
When the propaganda machine went into action the monkey bars and barbed wire were transformed into the picture below.
Were you gullible enough at the time ...and maybe even now ...to believe the bollox in the picture below?
By the way ...the only thing I'm addicted to is nicotine:D
Obviously pre-prepared bollox.
Even mentions plans to ban the group
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/12/islam4uk-banned-alan-johnson-islamist
Does this mean it is now officially okay to ban people we don't like? Can we have the BNP next please? Or we're only doing this to the 'darkies'?