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Mexico changes its drug laws.

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Mexico: Decriminalization of the possession of small amounts of illegal drugs

Mexico decriminalized the possession of small amounts of cannabis, cocaine and
heroin on 21 August - a move that prosecutors say makes sense even in the midst of
the government's grueling battle against drug traffickers. Prosecutors said the new
law sets clear limits that keep Mexico's police from going after casual users and
offers them more time to concentrate on drug trafficking.

"This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal
certainty," said Bernardo Espino del Castillo of the attorney general's office. The new
law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and
methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal
prosecution. The maximum amount of cannabis for "personal use" under the new law
is 5 grams.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Argentina: Supreme Court against prison sentence for possession of cannabis

    The Supreme Court ruled out prison for cannabis possession on 25 August, saying the
    government should go after major traffickers and provide treatment instead of jail for
    consumers of cannabis. Ruling in a case involving several young men caught with
    cannabis cigarettes in their pockets, the judges struck down a law providing for up to
    two years in prison for possession of small amounts of narcotics.

    This decision does not legalize drug possession outright. But Argentina's Cabinet
    chief favours keeping drug addicts out of the justice system, and was waiting for the
    ruling before forwarding a proposed law to Congress. The seven judges said they
    were unanimous in "declaring the unconstitutionality of prison for private
    consumption." "Each individual adult is responsible for making decisions freely about
    their desired lifestyle without state interference," their ruling said. "Private conduct is
    allowed unless it constitutes a real danger or causes damage to property or the rights
    of others."
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh god I hope so - this could never have happened under a Bush or McCain government, and it remains to be seen whether Obama will tolerate it.

    The war on drugs in Latin America has been an unequivocal failure and represents one of the largest stains on America's foreign policy record - they've thrown money at any bunch of corrupt, murderous psychopaths who claim they'll try to stem 'narco-traffico'.

    I'd be here all night if I listed even a sixteenth of the excesses that this disastrous policy has led to - but one sticks out above all else.

    In large parts of Columbia, and despite a budget that has few precedents in human history, Pablo Escobar was basically the only source of social provision in education, healthcare and municipal facilities. Escobar was the state - and the reach of dependence on him rose in proportion to the money being spent on Plan Columbia.

    There's been many a false dawn, but just maybe we might be turning a corner...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh god I hope so - this could never have happened under a Bush or McCain government, and it remains to be seen whether Obama will tolerate it.

    The war on drugs in Latin America has been an unequivocal failure and represents one of the largest stains on America's foreign policy record - they've thrown money at any bunch of corrupt, murderous psychopaths who claim they'll try to stem 'narco-traffico'.

    I'd be here all night if I listed even a sixteenth of the excesses that this disastrous policy has led to - but one sticks out above all else.

    In large parts of Columbia, and despite a budget that has few precedents in human history, Pablo Escobar was basically the only source of social provision in education, healthcare and municipal facilities. Escobar was the state - and the reach of dependence on him rose in proportion to the money being spent on Plan Colombia.

    There's been many a false dawn, but just maybe we might be turning a corner...

    Obama just plain doesnt have the support to do anything about the monsterous waste of human life that is the 'justice system' in the US. You can forget him even changing the penalties for cannabis. Although in the long run America is totally bankcrupt so they will have to stop putting so many in jail and hopefully that will lead to a change in policy.

    As for Escobar you are somewhat right, yes he did look after 'the people' but only if they didnt ask questions he was just like a dictator if you're on the right side of him things are good, if not then he had you killed.

    As for the lovely mass murder project that was 'Plan Colombia' you can look to Obama for a new version of the same, even more money is going into the US involvement in that country.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As for Escobar you are somewhat right, yes he did look after 'the people' but only if they didnt ask questions he was just like a dictator if you're on the right side of him things are good, if not then he had you killed.

    Yeah, point being that any policy which delivers a mass of population into the arms of such a man is obviously failing by default.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah, point being that any policy which delivers a mass of population into the arms of such a man is obviously failing by default.

    Of course it is, and this is why FARC still have a lot of support. But having said that FARC arent all that bad for the type of group they are, they certainly arent in the same league as the right wing paramilitaries in Colombia who have tendancy to kill whole villages if they dont do what they want.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The prison population isn't a problem ...or the explosion of it thats inevitable ...unless of course you think the FEMA camps are just more conspiracy bullshit.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The prison population isn't a problem ...or the explosion of it thats inevitable ...unless of course you think the FEMA camps are just more conspiracy bullshit.

    They have changed the entire government yet the plans to intern the majority of the public stay the same?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mexico has been similarly restrained in enforcing its own drug possession laws. Removing the possible deterrent effect of criminal law..



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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    janrenalds wrote: »
    Mexico has been similarly restrained in enforcing its own drug possession laws. Removing the possible deterrent effect of criminal law..



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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Portugal legalised the personal possession and use of all drugs a number of years ago. Drug abuse has actually decreased there now. The Portugese authorities only go after dealers. If you are caught in possession or using drugs, you have to attend drug counselling courses.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teagan wrote: »
    Portugal legalised the personal possession and use of all drugs a number of years ago. Drug abuse has actually decreased there now. The Portugese authorities only go after dealers. If you are caught in possession or using drugs, you have to attend drug counselling courses.

    There are quite a few other punishments, you can have your driving licence taken away for example. Still its a lot better than what we have here.
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