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ESA and special support grant

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited March 27 in Work & Study
i'm totally confused about this, as are all the advicers i've asked.

Last year i recieved special support grant instead of maintainance grant (which is quite a bit more), on the grounds that i am a disabled student and before i became a student i was on Income support with a disablity premium, and i'm still claiming DLA. I'm in the middle of sorting out my claim for ESA, and because the disablity premium has been abolished for this benefit, no one seems to know if i'm still entitled to SSG or not...

my local authority say that i got in in error last year, and that i won't recieve it this year, but i have spoken to student direct and they have said that i should been getting it anyway...

I'm waiting for someone from student direct to get back to me, but i have a feeling they won't know either...

anyone know?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Would you not get it on the basis you claim DLA? That's what I got told, but had someone tell me "you can only get it if you're on high rate care". (which I've been told by student finance is wrong)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well thats what i thought, but my local authority have said that i have to be a lone parent or registered blind or deaf to get it...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I believe it's all done through Student Finance England now, so they would be the people to talk to.

    The other place to look if you're getting stuck for information it to get in touch with your students union/university because they should have someone who helps sorts out finance problems and has access to the rule book which details who qualifies for what, and failing that assuming your uni is affliated NUS.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    again they say yes...but the local authority say no. student finance england don't make the final desions so i'm told so i have to get it into the thick skull of this idiot woman at the council...

    grrrrr
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Again, you need to talk to your student union advisers. The people at Westminster SU are lovely.

    The local authority make the final decision for you, as you're a returning student, but they usually accept guidance from Student Finance England's specialist support team. If you ring SFE, ask for the matter to be passed through to tier two. The initial advisers don't know the intricacies and shouldn't be advising you.

    You are not entitled to the disability premium if you are receiving ESA, even if you would usually get this because of your DLA. However, the student support regulations were changed to reflect this, and if you are entitled to receive income-based ESA because of a disability then you qualify for a special support grant.

    The relevant regulations are made clear in the 'assessing financial entitlement 09/10' guidance notes published by SFE at paragraph 41. I've just checked them for you, at no extra cost to you. However this is just my interpretation of the regulations and guidance, and SFE's may be different.

    However I really must emphasise that you should be discussing this with your own SU adviser. I know exactly what I'm talking about on this, I do it for a living, which is why I wish you'd listen to me. We have backdoor numbers to SFE and direct email contact with the specialist advisers, we can sort things much more quickly than you can by yourself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    problem with my uni is that SU does deal with anything to do with finance, the counciling and advice dept deal with it (and its a completely separate thing from the SU). i have spoken with someone about it, but they were too busy to deal with it in my appointment and have asked me to go back and see her - its just not that easy considering i have to get into central london and she only has one day a week available atm...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think you need to make the effort, you're asking about some pretty complicated pieces of legislation. You shouldn't be relying on advice from this message board about something as complex as this. If you don't mention something it could change all the advice and, without wanting to sound arrogant, I don't think many people will have the necessary professional experience to advise you properly.

    To give you an idea about how complicated this is, Citizens Advice Training's course on students, benefits and the effects on student finance is three days long.
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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    problem with my uni is that SU does deal with anything to do with finance, the counciling and advice dept deal with it (and its a completely separate thing from the SU). i have spoken with someone about it, but they were too busy to deal with it in my appointment and have asked me to go back and see her - its just not that easy considering i have to get into central london and she only has one day a week available atm...

    I agree with Kermit on this completely.

    You have so many different issues that if you want to get this sorted out you need to make the effort to do that. These message boards, useful and wonderful as they are, will not give you the specialised advice that you need. If you find that they are 'too busy' then you make another appointment and keep going back. Yes, it is a bit of a hassle, but definitely a hassle that is worth it. Especially as you need the money and need all this to be sorted out. It isn't just going to sort itself out all by itself. You need to put in the effort. And you need to do all the leg work because, at the end of the day, it's you that needs the money / support, not the advisors. So if you are not willing to do any legwork yourself then they won't either.

    I know that if I was in your shoes, I would be knocking at the door of all the specialist advisors rather than relying on a message board filled with (mainly) anecdotal advice that could, in actual fact, be wrong for you circumstances.

    Make the effort, get into town and sort it out at that end.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well its taken me the best part of 6 weeks even with the help of advicers but they are finally re-assesing my student loan! yay!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Glad to hear it TT, beaurocrats can be very demoralising at times. Do you have any time frames when you should know by?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    nope, but i'll give it a month...
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