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Dutch lunatic banned from UK.
BillieTheBot
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That'd be Geert Wilders.
Our Home Economics Secretary Jacqui Smith earlier this week confirmed that as far as the UK was concerned, he was a "person non grata". This was allegedly done in the name of national security. See the Beeb's report on that here. In truth, this was done because Jackboot Jacqui - she who has taken over £116k in expenses because she refuses to live in a grace-and-favour house that she is entitled to - was desperate to find something to distract the media and this happened to fit the bill perfectly. Principles such as freedom of speech are not going to matter to a character like her.
When he heard of the ban, his response was along the lines of "fuck that", and he said he would try and come here anyway. Wilders loves publicity, that much is certain. He arrived in the UK shortly after 2pm and was promptly sent back to the Netherlands. See here. What's the reason for all this? A film he's done called "Fitna". The film attempts to suggest that Islam is fundamentally a violent faith, I am told. I have not yet seen this film, so I can't say much more yet. Posting a link to it would almost certainly break the forum rules, but it's easy enough to find if you're curious.
This is a dreadful day for our democracy. Instead of his repellent views being openly challenged and questioned, our third-rate Home Secretary thought it better just to shut him up. She's supported in that decision by most of Labour and the LibDems, who are proving they're not very liberal at all. The biggest opponent of this is Lord Ahmed, he who would turn up the opening of an envelope. Internet blogs were filled with rumours this week that he threatened to mobilise 10,000 Muslims to prevent Mr Wilders from entering the House [of Lords, where he was going to show his film]". Lord Ahmed has denied the allegation, and his lawyers are trying to work out where they originally came from.
What do you think of this decision? I think it's utterly retarded and backward. Thanks to this stupid decision, many millions more people will see this film. Many millions more will then inevitably be under the impression that Islam is a violent and intolerant religion - and this is coming from someone who has little sympathy for this faith. The sensible Muslims out there will probably look at all this and despair. I wonder if the Jackboot thought of that before making her self-preserving decision?
Our Home Economics Secretary Jacqui Smith earlier this week confirmed that as far as the UK was concerned, he was a "person non grata". This was allegedly done in the name of national security. See the Beeb's report on that here. In truth, this was done because Jackboot Jacqui - she who has taken over £116k in expenses because she refuses to live in a grace-and-favour house that she is entitled to - was desperate to find something to distract the media and this happened to fit the bill perfectly. Principles such as freedom of speech are not going to matter to a character like her.
When he heard of the ban, his response was along the lines of "fuck that", and he said he would try and come here anyway. Wilders loves publicity, that much is certain. He arrived in the UK shortly after 2pm and was promptly sent back to the Netherlands. See here. What's the reason for all this? A film he's done called "Fitna". The film attempts to suggest that Islam is fundamentally a violent faith, I am told. I have not yet seen this film, so I can't say much more yet. Posting a link to it would almost certainly break the forum rules, but it's easy enough to find if you're curious.
This is a dreadful day for our democracy. Instead of his repellent views being openly challenged and questioned, our third-rate Home Secretary thought it better just to shut him up. She's supported in that decision by most of Labour and the LibDems, who are proving they're not very liberal at all. The biggest opponent of this is Lord Ahmed, he who would turn up the opening of an envelope. Internet blogs were filled with rumours this week that he threatened to mobilise 10,000 Muslims to prevent Mr Wilders from entering the House [of Lords, where he was going to show his film]". Lord Ahmed has denied the allegation, and his lawyers are trying to work out where they originally came from.
What do you think of this decision? I think it's utterly retarded and backward. Thanks to this stupid decision, many millions more people will see this film. Many millions more will then inevitably be under the impression that Islam is a violent and intolerant religion - and this is coming from someone who has little sympathy for this faith. The sensible Muslims out there will probably look at all this and despair. I wonder if the Jackboot thought of that before making her self-preserving decision?
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The real story here is, yet again, freedom of speech being curtailed.
I watched that film, V for Vendetta, on TV a few weeks ago. The script implied that the government police state grew out of the Conservative Party.
In reality, however, it is this Labour who are doing more damage to this country than almost anything that has come before. The party that I thought would fight FOR the little people is, in fact, fighting AGAINST us.
incompentant bitch...
I've always been a person who enjoys seeing those on the other side of me making complete twats out of themselves. Take Keith Vaz, for instance. It shames Leicester East that they keep voting for this odious cunt to remain in Parliament as their representative. Not content with having to deal with a foul-mouthed tirade from Boris Johnson yesterday him for abusing his position as Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee by giving details of a private conversation to the press, (Vaz should spend five minutes on the phone with me if he wants to be offended. I'll certainly leave the air blue for him) he also made an utter tit out of himself on Newsnight last night.
In a 15 minute debate with Kirsty Wark, he eventually admitted that he hadn't seen the film he was ranting about furiously. I particularly enjoyed the look on Kirsty's face when he admitted it - see it for yourself at around the 7 minute mark here. Now all I need is for a prominent attention-seeking Labour peer to threaten to mobilise 10,000 people to have this smug bastard boiled alive, and the whole episode will be complete.
London, Feb. 12, 2009
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.
Thank you for inviting me. Thank you Lord Pearson and Lady Cox for showing Fitna, and for your gracious invitation. While others look away, you, seem to understand the true tradition of your country, and a flag that still stands for freedom.
This is no ordinary place. This is not just one of England's tourist attractions. This is a sacred place. This is the mother of all Parliaments, and I am deeply humbled to speak before you.
The Houses of Parliament is where Winston Churchill stood firm, and warned - all throughout the 1930's - for the dangers looming. Most of the time he stood alone.
In 1982 President Reagan came to the House of Commons, where he did a speech very few people liked. Reagan called upon the West to reject communism and defend freedom. He introduced a phrase: 'evil empire'. Reagan's speech stands out as a clarion call to preserve our liberties. I quote: If history teaches anything, it teaches self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly.
What Reagan meant is that you cannot run away from history, you cannot escape the dangers of ideologies that are out to destroy you. Denial is no option.
Communism was indeed left on the ash heap of history, just as Reagan predicted in his speech in the House of Commons. He lived to see the Berlin Wall coming down, just as Churchill witnessed the implosion of national-socialism.
Today, I come before you to warn of another great threat. It is called Islam. It poses as a religion, but its goals are very worldly: world domination, holy war, sharia law, the end of the separation of church and state, the end of democracy. It is not a religion, it is a political ideology. It demands your respect, but has no respect for you.
There might be moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam. Islam will never change, because it is build on two rocks that are forever, two fundamental beliefs that will never change, and will never go away. First, there is Quran, Allah's personal word, uncreated, forever, with orders that need to be fulfilled regardless of place or time. And second, there is al-insal al-kamil, the perfect man, Muhammad the role model, whose deeds are to be imitated by all Muslims. And since Muhammad was a warlord and a conqueror we know what to expect.
Islam means submission, so there cannot be any mistake about it's goal. That's a given. The question is whether the British people, with its glorious past, is longing for that submission.
We see Islam taking off in the West at an incredible speed. The United Kingdom has seen a rapid growth of the number of Muslims. Over the last ten years, the Muslim population has grown ten times as fast as the rest of society. This has put an enormous pressure on society. Thanks to British politicians who have forgotten about Winston Churchill, the English now have taken the path of least resistance. They give up. They give in.
Thank you very much for letting me into the country. I received a letter from the Secretary of State for the Home Department, kindly disinviting me. I would threaten community relations, and therefore public security in the UK, the letter stated. For a moment I feared that I would be refused entrance. But I was confident the British government would never sacrifice free speech because of fear of Islam. Britannia rules the waves, and Islam will never rule Britain, so I was confident the Border Agency would let me through. And after all, you have invited stranger creatures than me. Two years ago the House of Commons welcomed Mahmoud Suliman Ahmed Abu Rideh, linked to Al Qaeda. He was invited to Westminster by Lord Ahmed, who met him at Regent's Park mosque three weeks before. Mr. Rideh, suspected of being a money man for terror groups, was given a SECURITY sticker for his Parliamentary visit.
Well, if you let in this man, than an elected politician from a fellow EU country surely is welcome here too. By letting me speak today you show that Mr Churchill's spirit is still very much alive. And you prove that the European Union truly is working; the free movement of persons is still one of the pillars of the European project.
But there is still much work to be done. Britain seems to have become a country ruled by fear. A country where civil servants cancel Christmas celebrations to please Muslims. A country where Sharia Courts are part of the legal system. A country where Islamic organizations asked to stop the commemoration of the Holocaust. A country where a primary school cancels a Christmas nativity play because it interfered with an Islamic festival. A country where a school removes the words Christmas and Easter from their calendar so as not to offend Muslims. A country where a teacher punishes two students for refusing to pray to Allah as part of their religious education class. A country where elected members of a town council are told not to eat during daylight hours in town hall meetings during the Ramadan. A country that excels in its hatred of Israel, still the only democracy in the Middle-East. A country whose capitol is becoming 'Londonistan'.
I would not qualify myself as a free man. Four and a half years ago I lost my freedom. I am under guard permanently, courtesy to those who prefer violence to debate. But for the leftist fan club of islam, that is not enough. They started a legal procedure against me. Three weeks ago the Amsterdam Court of Appeal ordered my criminal prosecution for making 'Fitna' and for my views on Islam. I committed what George Orwell called a 'thought crime'.
You might have seen my name on Fitna's credit role, but I am not really responsible for that movie. It was made for me. It was actually produced by Muslim extremists, the Quran and Islam itself. If Fitna is considered 'hate speech', then how would the Court qualify the Quran, with all it's calls for violence, and hatred against women and Jews? Mr. Churchill himself compared the Quran to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. Well, I did exactly the same, and that is what they are prosecuting me for.
I wonder if the UK ever put Mr. Churchill on trial.
The Court's decision and the letter I received form the Secretary of State for the Home Department are two major victories for all those who detest freedom of speech. They are doing Islam's dirty work. Sharia by proxy. The differences between Saudi-Arabia and Jordan on one hand and Holland and Britain are blurring. Europe is now on the fast track of becoming Eurabia. That is apparently the price we have to pay for the project of mass immigration, and the multicultural project.
Ladies and gentlemen, the dearest of our many freedoms is under attack. In Europe, freedom of speech is no longer a given. What we once considered a natural component of our existence is now something we again have to fight for. That is what is at stake. Whether or not I end up in jail is not the most pressing issue. The question is: Will free speech be put behind bars?
We have to defend freedom of speech.
For the generation of my parents the word 'London' is synonymous with hope and freedom. When my country was occupied by the national-socialists the BBC offered a daily glimpse of hope, in the darkness of Nazi tyranny. Millions of my country men listened to it, illegally. The words 'This Is London' were a symbol for a better world coming soon. If only the British and Canadian and American soldiers were here.
What will be transmitted forty years from now? Will it still be 'This Is London'? Or will it be 'this is Londonistan'? Will it bring us hope, or will it signal the values of Mecca and Medina? Will Britain offer submission or perseverance? Freedom or slavery?
The choice is ours.
Ladies and gentlemen,
We will never apologize for being free. We will never give in. We will never surrender.
Freedom must prevail, and freedom will prevail.
Thank you very much.
Geert Wilders MP
Chairman, Party for Freedom (PVV)
The Netherlands
More like the nine minute mark - but regardless of the wider debate I do agree with one thing. The idea that the parliamentary members who choose who to ban or not can't be bothered to watch the film is utterly horrifying, utterly, utterly horrifying.
If you're going to ban a person from being able to talk - Jesus, at least watch the damn 40 minute film...
Orwell's quote about if liberty means anything it means being able to tell people what they don't want to hear, springs to mind.
Madness.