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wtf is going on with this apathtic attitude...

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    its becoming more and morea case of if i want it i have to make it happen...

    Yes you will...

    Check out Pogo Cafe, 491 Gallery, The Spike... Man, there's LOADS of interesting and arty hang outs in London....

    There are a couple of altrnative bookshops, there are several activist groups, there are open mic poetry jams, independent galleries, protests, squats....

    If you want this kind of thing, just look for it... Or ask people already living that lifestyle.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the problem is that i can see portraying things as one but they are really something completely different. such as many club nights, gallery openings, they say they will have a certain aesthetic, but they really seem to actually not have a clue, and are very far off the mark and constantly provide watered down versions.

    for instance-loads of people were against the extreme pornography act, as am i myself. I tried to arrange a protest, and i was trying to get the leader of the facebook group and i was trying to get in contact with bizzare magazine. neither of them wanted to know and both gave me reasons along the lines of "someone else will"...but they didn't and it was passed...

    i am finding fewer and fewer pieces of both art and music which i'm finding inspirational. everything seems half heartedly done, made for money and not for the purposes of causing a response or inspiring, so when i think oh i wonder if anyone has done such and such and i'd really like to see that in an art gallery, or i'd really like to hear something like that, i'll search for yonks and find nothing, so i've ended up making things myself, this goes for both art and deffinatly music, but fashion is becoming far less bought and much more made. even when i go to specialist handmade fashion fairs, vintage places, etc, nothing much makes me go, wow, i really like that and want to wear it.

    I thought many more people were also finding this to be the case, but i'm maybe wrong...

    and namaste, yes i do vividly remember the march and no they weren't apathetic then, but what actually went on after the march? as in what were the consequence? did law change? were conditions made better?

    and for the lifestyle i'm looking at, i really don't know anyone thats leading it....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    and namaste, yes i do vividly remember the march and no they weren't apathetic then, but what actually went on after the march? as in what were the consequence? did law change? were conditions made better?
    Well Southall Black Sisters were saved (for now). Obviously saving SBS was a lot of things, but they had such a presence at MWR and that is important.

    Many of the women who went on the demonstration are still involved politically... After the demonstration there were events and there are still several feminist groups out there working for change.

    Look at what's happening in Northern Ireland for example.

    Most people talk, few will take action. I got very frustrated at university because so many people said they were passionate about issues, but only one or two would actually go in to London to demonstrate or even go to a meeting on campus. I never could work out why... I mean just say you don't care enough to pay for a travel card and take four hours out of your day (if you don't work)...

    But then you see amazing women and men around the world putting their livelihood on the line for what they believe is right.

    I see your frustration. Amazing people are few and far between... But then it's easier to talk about change than to make it happen.

    As for art... I dunno. lol

    *Is culturally idiotic*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    if it meant that the violent pornography act was revoked i'd go chain myself naked to the gates outside the houses of parliment and let some one put nails through my nipples...

    not that anyone would give a shit, because thats how people are these days...but yes, i'm still as passionate as ever if not more. And yes, i do agree most students seem to be all mouth and no action...

    culturally idotic isn't the phrase, money is.....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    are you talking about this? because there was a protest yesterday....

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7682319.stm
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ah, ok, i'm obviously out of the loop!

    i would have go along if i'd known! :(
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