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Is sex on the beach illegal?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7575294.stm

Was reading this article and came across this.

Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 - which bans exposing one's genitals if the intention is to cause alarm or distress - can also be applied in England, Wales and Northern Ireland

Doesn't the above basically cover anyone being naked in public?, Our ancestors walked the earth practically naked and some of just over a third of the worlds poulation still walk the earth almost, and totally naked, so what is britians fear of a naked person?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7575294.stm

    Was reading this article and came across this.

    Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 - which bans exposing one's genitals if the intention is to cause alarm or distress - can also be applied in England, Wales and Northern Ireland

    The above covers naked people in public basically, which our ancestors and over one third of the worlds population still live practically naked. What is Britians fear of a naked person?


    Because we are neither our ancestors nor other parts of the world.

    Practically naked isnt the same as naked either.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote: »
    Practically naked isnt the same as naked either.


    Sorry what do you mean?

    Was it my grammar? I skipped most of school and failed almost all of my exams so my english is quite rusty
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Someone who is practically naked isnt actually naked.

    Otherwise you would say "they are naked" instead of "they are practically naked"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok back to the question.

    You answered because we are neither our ancestors or other parts of the world.

    I really asked what is britians fear of a naked person? What I didn't ask was, Who are we?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok back to the question.

    You answered because we are neither our ancestors or other parts of the world.

    I really asked what is britians fear of a naked person? What I didn't ask was, Who are we?

    You stated a load of items to support something, those items i believe to be slightly irrelevant and non applicable, so thats why i brought them up.

    Fear of a naked person, i dont know if its conditioning, but theres some people that when i walk down the street, i would not want to be distracted by them being naked.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    When you say some of just over a third, so you dont mean just over a third of the worlds population, you just mean some of them?

    I find it hard to believe that 2.2billion people
    and some of just over a third of the worlds poulation still walk the earth almost, and totally naked

    And the original article actually asks is sex on the beach legal, not "is it illegal as you have stated in the title.
  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 - which bans exposing one's genitals if the intention is to cause alarm or distress - can also be applied in England, Wales and Northern Ireland
    Interesting wording. How does one prove intention?

    Regardless, I think that as long as people aren't doing anything sexually explicit with their genitals, they should be allowed to be completely naked anywhere that there's not a specific type of clothing required.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote: »

    Fear of a naked person, i dont know if its conditioning, but theres some people that when i walk down the street, i would not want to be distracted by them being naked.

    :thumb:

    :lol: I could imagine some of them :D
    MrG wrote: »
    When you say some of just over a third, so you dont mean just over a third of the worlds population, you just mean some of them?

    I find it hard to believe that 2.2billion people


    And the original article actually asks is sex on the beach legal, not "is it illegal as you have stated in the title.

    You must have strong english language skills, I do not, so you may not understand what I was suggesting.
    Regardless, I think that as long as people aren't doing anything sexually explicit with their genitals, they should be allowed to be completely naked anywhere that there's not a specific type of clothing required.

    Yes I want to walk to the shop naked and back again without being accused of intentionally causing alarm or distress :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fair enough :)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote: »
    And the original article actually asks is sex on the beach legal, not "is it illegal as you have stated in the title.

    Christ almighty.

    Is there a reason for the ridiculous amount of pedantry?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Christ almighty.

    Is there a reason for the ridiculous amount of pedantry?

    Yeh, im sorry.

    Got to go for a heart scan on thursday :crying:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7575294.stm

    Was reading this article and came across this.

    Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 - which bans exposing one's genitals if the intention is to cause alarm or distress - can also be applied in England, Wales and Northern Ireland

    Doesn't the above basically cover anyone being naked in public?, Our ancestors walked the earth practically naked and some of just over a third of the worlds poulation still walk the earth almost, and totally naked, so what is britians fear of a naked person?

    other cultures have different morals. That's hardly a contentious point.

    And our ancestors only had fire and stone tools. Is that what we should have? if it was good enough for our ancestors then it's good enough for us, right?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Interesting wording. How does one prove intention?

    Regardless, I think that as long as people aren't doing anything sexually explicit with their genitals, they should be allowed to be completely naked anywhere that there's not a specific type of clothing required.

    it probably means mens rea. In a crime, there must be a guilty act as well as a guilty mind.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The sexual offences act 2003 is completely irrelevant in the case of having sex on the beach.

    For that you'd be looking at indecent exposure or outraging public decency.

    Your only defence to either is if you have done your best to pick a secluded spot, so having sex in the middle of a beach when it's likely you'll be stumbled upon is an offence. Finding a sand dune somewhere off the beaten track and it isn't.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What he said, as I understand it.

    If anyone comes across you and reports you, you'd have broken the law.

    If nobody sees you nobody is outraged and it's not illegal, even if you freely admit to having done it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote: »
    What he said, as I understand it.

    If anyone comes across you and reports you, you'd have broken the law.

    .


    Not always, chances are you'd be arrested but again your defence is that you thought it was a pretty secluded spot. It's one of the main points to prove to make the offence.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Straying away from the sex on beach being legal or not, I was kinda looking for opinions on why britian have a fear of a naked person
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Straying away from the sex on beach being legal or not, I was kinda looking for opinions on why britian have a fear of a naked person

    I don't think it's fear as such. I wouldn't say we are that conservative a society anyway. Besides, would you say that India (for example) by and large tolerates public nudity? There are societies that have far more conservative morals than the UK ostensibly has.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And to be fair even with those countries with a so-called more relaxed attitude to nudity try walking down the high-street naked and see how far you get...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And to be fair even with those countries with a so-called more relaxed attitude to nudity try walking down the high-street naked and see how far you get...
    Didn't you use to watch Eurotrash then? ;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote: »
    Didn't you use to watch Eurotrash then? ;)

    Nah, I used to buy proper porn instead :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There are too many laws about sex in this country. As far as I'm concerned, it's completely inappropriate for any government to tell us what we can and can't do in the bedroom. What happens between two consenting adults (or more, if that's your scene) behind closed doors is entirely their own business.

    Sex on the beach is almost certainly illegal under the law as it stands, and I probably agree with that. Let's face it - when you're taking the dog down the beach for his walk, you're not especially likely to welcome the sight of some couple copping off. Or when I'm going into public toilets, I don't especially fancy seeing two blokes engaging in a bit of cottaging. Nothing against gay sex, you understand - I just think there's a time and a place for everything.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whowhere wrote: »
    The sexual offences act 2003 is completely irrelevant in the case of having sex on the beach.

    For that you'd be looking at indecent exposure or outraging public decency.

    Your only defence to either is if you have done your best to pick a secluded spot, so having sex in the middle of a beach when it's likely you'll be stumbled upon is an offence. Finding a sand dune somewhere off the beaten track and it isn't.

    But you can bet you'll be on youtube within 5 minutes if someone finds you with their camera phone!

    I honestly dont have a problem with casual nudity at all. But we live in a very sexualised world so unless you are skinny dipping with your best friends, if you get your dong out people are going to be thinking you want to rape them or that they want to rape you. People just can't handle that kind of thing. If everyone walked around naked it wouldn't be a problem, but at the minute the only people that do are the ones who are a bit loony.

    What is the situation on a sunny day if I strip my kit off and just sunbathe nude? I wouldn't for fear of causing offense - waiting in a car park last night for my mate to pick me up caused offense (I was literally sitting not saying anything and heard mutters of 'teenagers...' coming my way - this wasn't in inner city Nottingham either, this was Cromer a sea side town!).

    There was a funny sketch about the whole issue on the thin blue line once.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ShyBoy wrote: »

    What is the situation on a sunny day if I strip my kit off and just sunbathe nude?

    Where are you sunbathing? Are you on a nudist beach, or Skegness beach amidst loads of young families. If it's the latter and you're more than topless, then you're collar will be felt pretty sharpish.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know if it's illegal but you can catch shingles !

    Ba-doom-KISH.
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