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oh is it now?
Load of shite, that's something you'd find on facebook or something.
It's unfortunate that she has dementia and I'm sure her family are going through a lot at the moment and have been ever since she's got it. But as she's caused untold misery to millions in this country then I'm not going to pretend I'm sad or feel sorry for her.
The next Margaret Thatcher cannot come soon enough.
So someone who can take control, like blair who you despised?
Then there are the poor, the disadvantaged, single mothers, those on welfare, and pretty much everyone who isn't rich. Not to mention the people of Chile.
The miners issue is the first one that comes to mind, but it is by no means the only or even most significant consequence of Thatcher's reign. This is the woman who said there is no such thing as society and who cultivated the concepts of greed and selfishness in this country- the consequences of which we're still paying today- and who heartlessly persecuted those who were in most need.
I don't wish anyone dementia- not even her- but let's not be under any illusions about the deeply unpleasant policies and philosophy of the woman, and the damage and suffering she caused to millions of individuals and Britain as a whole.
But did they?
Yeh but I certainly won't be mourning the death of Thatcher.
no, they werent allowed to. That was the whole point.
But it's very easy to look back and say what people did wrong, at the end of the day politicians are just eople who are doing what they think is right. What would anyone else have done in her position?
They chose to die. As you say, fuck 'em.
This country was a complete mess until she came into power and put a stop to the rot. Strikes, blackouts, rubbish piled high in the streets etc. This country was a laughing stock.
I agree that, over time, she took things too far with her economic beliefs BUT time and time again, the electorate voted her back in. Perhaps its the electorate - and not her - that are to blame. She must have taken that as a sign that she was doing what the people wanted. She didn't try and hold onto power via the gun and so she can never be compared to the Stalin's, Bin Laden's etc of this world.
This is the full context of that often (mis)quoted speech :
I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."
As one can see, it's not quite as sensational as you make it out to be. I bet if I did a search through your past posts on this board, Aladdin, I could manipulate out-of-context statements of yours that may make you appear rather nasty (which I know you're not, by the way
The only thing she did right, she did too much of it and tipped the scales to the other side completely. And on top of that she championed a disgusting culture of selfishness and unparalelled greed that has done so much damage to the social fabric of this country.
So the balance of her Premiership could be summed up as: took reforms too far, fucked literally tens of millions of people over, nearly destroyed the welfare state, persecuted single mothers, castigated the poor in favour of the rich, and instigated an ugly culture of personal greed and disregard for the needy.
2/10.
And they're thinking of giving this woman a State Funeral?
The meaning still reads pretty clear to me: individuals are all that count. Fuck the poor, fuck the needy, fuck welfare.
Well it suggests that the public agreed with them...
I don't know about Labour during her Premiership, but with the state of the Tories during Blair's premiership, Labour could have made Gary Glitter their PM and still get elected.
If they were that unpopular people would have voted for the opposition. They were more popular than the opposition therefore they won elections
Well, if Labour at the time were too awful to vote for, then she can't have been that despised at the time. The only reason Tony Blair kept on winning was because of his politics and not his personality.
Perhaps I ought to run the quote through Google Translator for you so that you can get a Spanish translation (what a laugh that will be, eh?
The alternative was Neil Kinnock and as much as i liked him, i dont think he was really prime minister material