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Champions League

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited January 2023 in General Chat
Well, well, well, Madrid on the rampage again, does anyone think that Barca can make a come back in the Bernabeau?

What about tonight (ManU v LeverKausen if you didn't know <IMG SRC="eek.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> ) everyones expecting ManU to walk it but Leverkausen did put 4 past "the best defence in Europe <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> " and topped the second group ahead of Juve, Arsenal and Deportivo surely they have a good chance to beat the scum!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I was interested to read that Ferguson thinks that his team's best chance for a trophy is the Champions League; all but conceding the title to Arsenal?

    I can see the match tonight going either way, but I think that Man U will win it over the two legs. I don't know if I back them for the final, though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ManU are well out of the title race if Arsenal win tonight then they are 5 points behind with 3 games to go, no chance!

    I can only hope to god that ManU don't win the whole thing, imagine the gloating!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As predicted above ManU are out of the title race (practically) and they got taught a lesson by the Germans, cracking stuff....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I still believe we can win it!!! CUM ON UNITED!!!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Man Utd will see off Leverkausen in the other leg. A 1-0 win I think (only the single goal in it anyway)

    Madrid will win the competition. I just can't see anyone beating them. They get the ball go forward with players like Zidane and Raul and look like scoring every time they go forward. I don't think Utd can stop them without their first choice team.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hello, another Man U fan sneaks out the closet un-noticed <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> bloody sods the lot of you ! mind you not supporting crewe is understandable <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Leverkausen are well good at home, Liverpool are better than ManU and they got whipped. Real are very good but their defence is still very dodgy, they were very, very lucky to keep a clean sheet in the Nou Camp
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg:
    <STRONG>Liverpool are better than ManU and they got whipped. </STRONG>

    Ummm, know there not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    know there not
    yes they are! <IMG SRC="tongue.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Man utd must win nothing, Nothing i say
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am still quite hoping that the scum will come third so that they have to go through the qualifying stages next season, hahahahahah <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg:
    <STRONG>I am still quite hoping that the scum will come third so that they have to go through the qualifying stages next season, hahahahahah <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"></STRONG>

    And yet they will STILL be in the Champions League <IMG SRC="confused.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> and they have such a bad record in that competition.

    In fact didn't they have to qualify in the year that they won it - after all they had finished second in the league the previous year...

    And I think that the ABU (Anyone But United) mentality is really pathetic guys. You really want a German club to progress over an English one?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You really want a German club to progress over an English one?
    Yes.

    Whoever wins it, there fans will be smug and they will gloat, I know ManU fans, I don't know any Leverkausen fans....

    ManU are scum, fullstop.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Always nice to be in the presence of a well-reasoned argument.

    Shame you haven't got one then really. <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I really couldn't care less who wins tonight, i'll be disappointed either way, i do however reckon united will do it, Keane been the difference from the first leg, the man makes United 25% better and that'll be too good for Leverkusen, i would love to see a madrid v united final, madrid to win of course <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> my mate is a bloody man u fan and i really get irritated when he starts taking the piss out of forest <IMG SRC="mad.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> Bloody cheek <IMG SRC="mad.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">, all i have is the fact they haven't won it more than us <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tell me then MoK why should I support ManU?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg:
    <STRONG>Tell me then MoK why should I support ManU?</STRONG>

    Purely as your countries representative.

    Let's put it this way, who will you support in the World Cup if Germany meet England in a semi-final?

    Its a matter of national pride.

    Other than when they represent England, I am happy for you to hate them generally.

    Still, I'm sure you are overjoyed at the result. <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In what way are (were <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> ) ManU representing England?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg:
    <STRONG>In what way are (were <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> ) ManU representing England?</STRONG>

    The reigning English champions, playing in a Eurpoean competition, as one of England's representative teams. Surely that is obvious....who else were they representing? Latvia?

    Or are we going down the "yeah but how many of their players are english?" route...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:
    <STRONG>Or are we going down the "yeah but how many of their players are english?" route...</STRONG>

    Be ironic if the Scousers were. After all, their teams that won it were full of Jocks <IMG SRC="tongue.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    Oh, and eb, Forest are arseholes supported by arseholes. Even worse than Derby. Deal with it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Or are we going down the "yeah but how many of their players are english?" route...
    yep.....

    If I want national pride then I will support the English national team, club football has nothing to do with nationality

    ManU are scum.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Most Man U fans couldn't give a toss about England. In fact many can be heard at OT every other week chanting 'Argentina, Argentina'. If the fucking tossers have such contempt for England surely they can't expect any neutrals to wish them well in Europe.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin:
    <STRONG>Most Man U fans couldn't give a toss about England. In fact many can be heard at OT every other week chanting 'Argentina, Argentina'. If the fucking tossers have such contempt for England surely they can't expect any neutrals to wish them well in Europe.</STRONG>

    Bullshit, most Man U fans are fervent England Supporters. FFS we provide Brown, Neville, Neville, Scholes, Beckham and Butt for the squad. In fact, in one match recently we had SIX players on the pitch (Cole & Sheringham included). We're hardly going to be anti-England.

    This anti-ManU rhetoric is pathetic. It's one thing to despise a team (although jealousy is never an attractive trait) but get a grip.

    Do you have ANY idea why the MUFC fans have reacted like this?

    Read some interviews with Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and David Beckham. Each of these players has been boo-ed and abused by England fans whilst playing for England and only becuase MUFC are their club side.

    Look at how Beckham was vilified after the '98 World Cup. What about the Romania game in Euro 2000? The English fans <STRONG>really</STRONG> got behind Beckham then, didn't they? So much that even the England Manager public voiced his contempt for them.

    True patriotism eh?


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    I don't expect anyone to like MUFC. I <STRONG>do</STRONG> expect people to get behind <STRONG>anyone</STRONG> who represents their country.

    The England football team is made up of notional representatives, who don't even have to be born in this country - the minimum requirement is that a grandparent is English.

    We love them dearly because they reresent US.

    There really isn't any differnce between that and Man U in Europe.

    Or are you telling me that you didn't want Liverpool, Ipswich, Leeds or Arsenal to do well either?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit:
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    Oh, and eb, Forest are arseholes supported by arseholes. Even worse than Derby. Deal with it.</STRONG>

    of course kermit <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> coming from supporter of a classic nothing team who's puropse so far in the history of football is to make up the numbers <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:
    <STRONG>

    Bullshit, most Man U fans are fervent England Supporters. FFS we provide Brown, Neville, Neville, Scholes, Beckham and Butt for the squad. In fact, in one match recently we had SIX players on the pitch (Cole & Sheringham included). We're hardly going to be anti-England.

    This anti-ManU rhetoric is pathetic. It's one thing to despise a team (although jealousy is never an attractive trait) but get a grip.

    Do you have ANY idea why the MUFC fans have reacted like this?

    Read some interviews with Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and David Beckham. Each of these players has been boo-ed and abused by England fans whilst playing for England and only becuase MUFC are their club side.

    Look at how Beckham was vilified after the '98 World Cup. What about the Romania game in Euro 2000? The English fans [qb]really</STRONG> got behind Beckham then, didn't they? So much that even the England Manager public voiced his contempt for them.

    True patriotism eh?


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    I don't expect anyone to like MUFC. I <STRONG>do</STRONG> expect people to get behind <STRONG>anyone</STRONG> who represents their country.

    The England football team is made up of notional representatives, who don't even have to be born in this country - the minimum requirement is that a grandparent is English.

    We love them dearly because they reresent US.

    There really isn't any differnce between that and Man U in Europe.

    Or are you telling me that you didn't want Liverpool, Ipswich, Leeds or Arsenal to do well either?[/QB]

    That United provide high number of players to the national squad does not change the fact that many fans despise England. You don't need to go to OT to hear them chanting 'Argentina'. This is a fact and you can hear it practically every time a Man U game is shown.

    To be fair Man U players do get a rough treatment from so-called England fans (idiots). But you have to acknowledge that United gets the least representation, by a million miles, amongst the England supporting base.

    I don't particularly hate or even dislike the team. They have fabulous talent and have played superb football for years. They have a wanker or two in the squad, but what team doesn't?
    It's the fucking fans that do everyone's heads in. The shameless opportunism, the glory hunting, the contempt for other teams... As a visiting team supporter I've been to OT three times. That's more than about 98% of Man U fans have. I do have a big problem with so-called football fans supporting teams based hundreds of miles away. Football is all about local communities, not glory hunting.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So being from South London, you support Charlton or Palace then...?

    I've had this argument with others here. Being a supporter isn't about where you live. Its about what you feel.

    How many people actively support their village side? Home and Away?

    Very few.

    What actually happens is that we support the bigger sides, be that Arsenal, Derby, Gillingham, Exeter...whatever, we support a big fish in the pond. For some people that means MUFC and yes I accept that some are there because of the last ten years worth of success (just as Liverpool found in the 80s). Many of us, though, stuck through the barren years I have mentioned.

    What I won't accept is that I am an less of a supporter becuase I can't see the Stadium from my bedroom window.

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    Can you back up your claim of 98%, or are you just overstating something to support a prejudice?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:
    <STRONG>What actually happens is that we support the bigger sides, be that Arsenal, Derby, Gillingham, Exeter...whatever, we support a big fish in the pond. For some people that means MUFC and yes I accept that some are there because of the last ten years worth of success (just as Liverpool found in the 80s). Many of us, though, stuck through the barren years I have mentioned.

    </STRONG>

    Yes thats thats right folks you read it right, the words biggers sides and Derby in the same sentence!

    Mok, I salute you!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't get too excited dude.

    They were mentioned alongside Gillinham and Exeter FFS <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    Point being that in Derby, Derby County are the big fish...you support them even though Burton Albion are your closer side(I believe?).

    Even if you go to Burton on a semi-regular basis, when asked, you say you support the Rams...

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    You know I still can't get over his Man U Fans hating England comments <IMG SRC="mad.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    I know prejudice makes you blind but jeez....

    Have you never heard or irony, Aladin? England fans boo MUFC players. As an act of irony, MU fans chant for Argentina, thus underlining the folly of the England fans being unable to support their own players - purely based on their club side.

    That is the sole reason for the chant.

    Of course, Aladin is too stupid to see that a MU fan would actually know this. He'd rather keep his blinkers on...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think its an absolute disgrace when England fans boo Manchester United players whilst they are representing their country <IMG SRC="mad.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent:
    <STRONG>
    Point being that in Derby, Derby County are the big fish...you support them even though Burton Albion are your closer side(I believe?).

    Even if you go to Burton on a semi-regular basis, when asked, you say you support the Rams...

    </STRONG>

    I live roughly in between Burton and Derby, and as I was born in Derby, I consider them my first team. I don't get to see them as much as I like through working and the cost so ruinning a close second come Burton Albion. Supported them for about nine years now and I'm going to see there final game this evening. £6 entry, stand where you like and food ain't half bad to. Non league football's great!
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