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Tax on Healthy food

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
I came across this and didn't even know there was a tax on so called "LUXURY FOOD"

100% fruit juice is taxed at 17.5% whilst chips aren't - well that says a lot about the government's attitude to healthy eating.



http://www.vatsnotfair.com/smoothies/


ASDA is launching a campaign calling for a reduction in VAT on 100% fruit juices and smoothies to bring an end to a tax which unfairly penalises people for choosing healthier options.


Under current tax law, people pay zero VAT on essential foods and drinks such as milkshakes, frozen pizzas and chips but 17.5% on luxury items such as smoothies and 100% fruit juices. ASDA is calling for this to be reduced to 5%, which is the minimum allowed under EU law.
Current VAT law makes no sense ? the Government charges the full rate of tax on healthy fruit juices and smoothies while effectively encouraging people to buy cakes and frozen pizzas by not taxing them at all.

This is about a common sense approach to pricing. Everyone knows that we should be eating more fruit and vegetables and that price often plays a big part in deciding which items to buy. So why should we pay a premium for making healthier choices?

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/juicesvat/
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The whole VAT system makes no sense, a jaffa cake is exempt, yet a chocolate biscuit is a luxury.

    Same as razors, men need theirs but women dont, so they pay the higher rate.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what! why is fruit juice taxed but chips arent?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I only ever buy 100% juice and it's a rip off!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Supposedly they are going to reduce the tax on things like smoothies and fruit juices but only by about 5% :rolleyes:

    It's rediculouse that healthy food is taxed whereas fatty foods aren't, the government can push 5 a day all they want but with the price of most fruit it's no wonder people aren't eating enough!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    The whole VAT system makes no sense, a jaffa cake is exempt, yet a chocolate biscuit is a luxury.

    Same as razors, men need theirs but women dont, so they pay the higher rate.

    :yes: The VAT system on food is really odd. A lot of the basic rules where made quite a few years ago and dont get updated very often.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    Same as razors, men need theirs but women dont, so they pay the higher rate.
    Do we not? :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    so basically take an orange and it's tax free (I assume??), squeeze the juice out of it and the price jumps 17.5% ?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7284703.stm
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    compared to an orange, orange juice is a luxury food, where the whole orange is much better for you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    katralla wrote: »
    compared to an orange, orange juice is a luxury food, where the whole orange is much better for you.

    That's just an example - Pineapple juice for example is probably a lot easier to consume then a pineapple. Also possible to drink a mixture of various fruits and get the benefits of several fruits.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lea_uk wrote: »
    Do we not? :p

    Nope, both female razors and tampons are luxury items (according to the VAT man, not me).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    Same as razors, men need theirs but women dont, so they pay the higher rate.

    Which is why I use mens razors. I don't need mine to be pink and sparkly thanks, I just need it to shave my legs.

    I think tampons being classed as a luxury item is awful though :mad:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Acrobat wrote: »
    Which is why I use mens razors. I don't need mine to be pink and sparkly thanks, I just need it to shave my legs.

    I think tampons being classed as a luxury item is awful though :mad:

    The pads arent considered a luxury, so they arent taxed, but tampons are.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I use mens razors too, much better than womens ones.
    I do think it's wrong that tampons are considered a luxury item though! There's nothing luxurious about periods.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I do think it's wrong that tampons are considered a luxury item though! There's nothing luxurious about periods.

    But thats not the point, its that tampons are the luxurious way of dealing with them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    do you really think so or is that just what the VAT man says? I think that they both fall under the "necessary" heading, much more so than a milkshake or something.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    But thats not the point, its that tampons are the luxurious way of dealing with them.

    For someone with heavy periods they are the necessary way of dealing with them
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Seriously though how are frozen chips and pizzas possibly classed as 'essential'?

    In my shopping basket fruit and veg are essential (buy them every week) and frozen chips and pizzas are literally a luxury (as in I only buy them once everything else is in the basket and I've got money left over)

    Urgh the government make me mad
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Actually I'd class smoothies as a luxury item, even without the tax they're really expensive and not something I'd buy regularly. I don't even buy fruit juice regularly, but that's more to do with fridge space and having to carry it back. But smoothies are a new fashionable thing really aren't they? hardly essential.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Actually I'd class smoothies as a luxury item, even without the tax they're really expensive and not something I'd buy regularly. I don't even buy fruit juice regularly, but that's more to do with fridge space and having to carry it back. But smoothies are a new fashionable thing really aren't they? hardly essential.

    I agree with that. I think the point is that they're healthy though. I'd consider them a luxury too. But I don't think fruit juice or tampons should be. I rarely buy fruit juice because its too expensive
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    True, they are healthy, and when compared with pizza and chips it does seem silly to tax them based on the healthiness. I do think they're more of a luxury product than fruit juice or fruit and veg themselves. More of a supplement to a diet than something that you'd make a meal from. Does that kind of make sense? It's something I'd buy as a treat.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeh same. I think its bad to tax fruit juice though cos its a good way of getting one of your five a day

    ETA: the tax on tampons rule cos they're a 'luxury' was obviously written by a man
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hehe I was going to write that but thought I'd be accused of sexism or something!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well as if a women would ever consider tampons to be a luxury!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    do you really think so or is that just what the VAT man says? I think that they both fall under the "necessary" heading, much more so than a milkshake or something.

    Of course I dont think tampons are the luxurious way to have a period, its a total farce that they are taxed.

    As for smoothies, they are a luxury so should be taxed, just plain juice though that seems a bit harsh, perhaps they could have the 5% band.

    As for fruit and veg itself, I assume that's VAT exempt, or at least its on the 5% band.

    I know books and kids clothing is exempt which seems a good idea to me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh good, for a minute there I thought you thought they were a luxury :p
    I agree with the rest of your post, tis good :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    Of course I dont think tampons are the luxurious way to have a period, its a total farce that they are taxed.

    That should be the new ad campaign

    "Tampax - the luxurious way to have your period"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh good, for a minute there I thought you thought they were a luxury :p
    I agree with the rest of your post, tis good :thumb:

    I'm a little insulted, surely you didnt actually believe that I thought that? I'm not new! Hopefully you have made some rough value judgements about me which wouldnt tally with that?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kangoo wrote: »
    That should be the new ad campaign

    "Tampax - the luxurious way to have your period"

    That's fried gold and no mistake.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    I'm a little insulted, surely you didnt actually believe that I thought that? I'm not new! Hopefully you have made some rough value judgements about me which wouldnt tally with that?
    I was a bit surprised that you seemed to think that because no, it isn't something that I'd think you'd think. I'm glad you don't!
    Better? or would you like a (luxury) lollipop too? ;)
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