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The Economy: Gordon Brown Rant (Check the ending for an amsuing picture)
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What the FUCK? I mean seriously, how fucking retarded is Gordon Brown, how fucked up is he? Is he really this unbelievably stupid and incompetant?
Let's get this clear from the start, he can't blame the Conservative government on this, he had 10 years of controlling the economy himself, personally, hands on, buck stops with him, solely his responsibilty, and in that 10 years he took A LOT of credit for how amazingly good a job he was doing in getting Britain out of debt, in increasing public spending and encouraging all the good things in society, such as more police, better hospitals, etc, etc! So he can not pass the blame onto any one else!!!
Yet, he fucked up, right? He spent everything he taxed, he borrwed to cover excessive out of control spending, he taxed to excessive levels, both openly and through stealth again and now after 10 years the economy is at its lowest ebb! Surely damning evidence enough that Gordon Brown is incapable of doing any job in Government? Surely evidence he is retarded? (Although i do not want to insult any retarded members of society who all make a much much MUCH more valuable contribution than Gordon Brown does)!
This man, bailed out Northern Rock! I mean, ok i get it, a lot of people would have lost out on their life savings and their money and it would have affected a lot of people... but that said, he spent tax payers money, our money to bail out Northern Rock, so he puts taxes up to cover the costs of bailing out the bank, but will they go down when Northern Rock pay the money back... NO! That would be far too fair! He should have let Northern Rock collapse and just covered the losses of the customers by repaying them... it most likely would have being a cheaper solution.
Also, the Northern Rock, cheif executive, the boss behind Northern Rock, the boss who fucked it up, the man responsible for the humungous balls up of banking... did he get arrested? Did he go to jail? Nope, he walked away like nothing happened, like he did a job well done! Oh yeah... but he gave up all his wealth and salary to help cover those losses... NO! He was given a £750,000 golden handshake retirement!!!
Fuel!!! Let me talk Fuel!!! I said it before and i know, pretrol prices are ever changing, rising and falling, well... not fauling, but as a base figure to work from, for every £1 you spend on petrol, the Government takes 65p of in tax. Now with out the government you'd pay 35p instead of the £1 for the same amount! Now i am not saying, "hey lets not tax fuel!" That's crazy talk! What i am saying is "Don't tax fuel so fucking much!" I mean come on, Buses are ridiculously expensive to get because they are ever putting prices up to cover fuel costs, driving to work is ever more expensive, its ridiculous.
You know my company is having to put all our prices up by £1 per kilo on all stock because the haulage companies around Britain are having to put up their prices to cover fuel costs. Fishing boat (my business sells fresh fish) cant and wont go out to sea unless they know and can guarantee they will have a huge haul of fish because otherwise they cant afford the fuel for it! In some fishing communities i know personally who supply us, for the past 20 years their prices have steadily gone up, with inflation and costs you expect, nothing unexpected, but in the last 5 years they have sky rocketed because they cant afford to ship fish at anything less and make a profit, they are bordering on going out of business, 50 years of family business, hard work all gone, what do they get paid, well £6 per hour were the staff 20 years ago and today... £6 per hour! No wage increases at all in 20 years, just a changing world of costs.
Now, this is off topic of the economy or is it? But spiralling costs of the Olympic games in London, what a waste of money, for £6 billion (the original budget of the games) we could have done Franky Boyle said and written "FUCK OFF GERMANY!" on the moon! The millenium Dome, what a waste of money! War in Iraq what a waste!!! Money, lives, way of life, it is just one huge fuck up!
This is what i think best sums up Gordon Browns Britain:
Let's get this clear from the start, he can't blame the Conservative government on this, he had 10 years of controlling the economy himself, personally, hands on, buck stops with him, solely his responsibilty, and in that 10 years he took A LOT of credit for how amazingly good a job he was doing in getting Britain out of debt, in increasing public spending and encouraging all the good things in society, such as more police, better hospitals, etc, etc! So he can not pass the blame onto any one else!!!
Yet, he fucked up, right? He spent everything he taxed, he borrwed to cover excessive out of control spending, he taxed to excessive levels, both openly and through stealth again and now after 10 years the economy is at its lowest ebb! Surely damning evidence enough that Gordon Brown is incapable of doing any job in Government? Surely evidence he is retarded? (Although i do not want to insult any retarded members of society who all make a much much MUCH more valuable contribution than Gordon Brown does)!
This man, bailed out Northern Rock! I mean, ok i get it, a lot of people would have lost out on their life savings and their money and it would have affected a lot of people... but that said, he spent tax payers money, our money to bail out Northern Rock, so he puts taxes up to cover the costs of bailing out the bank, but will they go down when Northern Rock pay the money back... NO! That would be far too fair! He should have let Northern Rock collapse and just covered the losses of the customers by repaying them... it most likely would have being a cheaper solution.
Also, the Northern Rock, cheif executive, the boss behind Northern Rock, the boss who fucked it up, the man responsible for the humungous balls up of banking... did he get arrested? Did he go to jail? Nope, he walked away like nothing happened, like he did a job well done! Oh yeah... but he gave up all his wealth and salary to help cover those losses... NO! He was given a £750,000 golden handshake retirement!!!
Fuel!!! Let me talk Fuel!!! I said it before and i know, pretrol prices are ever changing, rising and falling, well... not fauling, but as a base figure to work from, for every £1 you spend on petrol, the Government takes 65p of in tax. Now with out the government you'd pay 35p instead of the £1 for the same amount! Now i am not saying, "hey lets not tax fuel!" That's crazy talk! What i am saying is "Don't tax fuel so fucking much!" I mean come on, Buses are ridiculously expensive to get because they are ever putting prices up to cover fuel costs, driving to work is ever more expensive, its ridiculous.
You know my company is having to put all our prices up by £1 per kilo on all stock because the haulage companies around Britain are having to put up their prices to cover fuel costs. Fishing boat (my business sells fresh fish) cant and wont go out to sea unless they know and can guarantee they will have a huge haul of fish because otherwise they cant afford the fuel for it! In some fishing communities i know personally who supply us, for the past 20 years their prices have steadily gone up, with inflation and costs you expect, nothing unexpected, but in the last 5 years they have sky rocketed because they cant afford to ship fish at anything less and make a profit, they are bordering on going out of business, 50 years of family business, hard work all gone, what do they get paid, well £6 per hour were the staff 20 years ago and today... £6 per hour! No wage increases at all in 20 years, just a changing world of costs.
Now, this is off topic of the economy or is it? But spiralling costs of the Olympic games in London, what a waste of money, for £6 billion (the original budget of the games) we could have done Franky Boyle said and written "FUCK OFF GERMANY!" on the moon! The millenium Dome, what a waste of money! War in Iraq what a waste!!! Money, lives, way of life, it is just one huge fuck up!
This is what i think best sums up Gordon Browns Britain:
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darling isn't running shit, GB is still busy covering his own arse for the last 10 years of bad fiscal policy. too late.
Comes back to the UK, guess what he goes and does? Seriously...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7362283.stm
Oops. Changed his mind. Obviously, not because everyone in his own government and the opposition and the public said it was ludicrous to increase tax for those on the LOWEST income (this is a labour government isn't it?), but because he had a rethink, or something.
I mean, fair enough he had the balls to change his mind about a bad plan - but he threw his political weight behind his decision firm in the knowledge it was the right one, then undermines it by giving the money back. It seems he's not sure what the right course of action is, but is just trying to look like he knows what he's doing.
I don't blame solely him for the economy though, he was reckless but it was paying off for a while, it's America that has caused the current turmoil.
I help change some of the tickets on the shelf at the local supermarket and cheese was going up 15p-40p!!
My mum said she brough a car full of petrol for like £37 then now 7 weeks later its £45
there is one simple thing to do
just go on the doll, get paid £1000+ a month for doing no work, zilch!
or
become a Goverment MP with all the allowances/wage packet - they dont know how real people live
I also despise the way that Labour MPs have handled this. When it was first announced, not a peep was mentioned about their alleged concerns. Suddenly, when the polls are against them, when the Prime Minister is one of the most unpopular this country has ever seen, when their jobs are at stake come the next election, Labour MPs suddenly develop a conscience? I don't believe a word - hardly one of them genuinely opposes this move. It's all shameless posturing from politicians who have forgotten who they are meant to represent. The only thing which Labour politicians now deserve is a long period to re-learn and remember who they're meant to speaking for. In other words, Labour now deserve a long period on the opposition benches.
As for Gordon Brown's record as chancellor, it is truly dire. Brown's apologists like to tell us that he spent more on schools, more on transport, more on the NHS. And where are the improvements to show for it? In our schools, exams are being dumbed down to such an extent that you could train monkeys to pass them. Our transport system is a national embarrassment, our fuel is charged at criminally high rates, our National Health Service hospitals are riddled with MRSA and other vile bugs... so far, so very awful. Gordon is the man who destroyed the pensions system in this country, Gordon is the one who failed to save money for the rainy days that we're now facing economically, Gordon is the one who sold huge bulks of our gold reserves when the price was down... I wouldn't buy a used car from such a man, never mind trust him to run a country.
Some lord or other remarked last week that "Gordon Brown was put on earth to remind us how good Tony Blair was". Amazingly, I find myself in agreement with him. Can we please have Tony Blair back as Prime Minister? Yes, the man is a warmongering bastard who should spend the rest of his days in prison living in fear for his life, but at least he could make a decision - which is more than Macavity could do in a million years.
In all seriousness my mum is getting into a career in childcare and now the social services system has been privatised to some degree, children in private clinics are horredously spoilt - my mum estimates they get given around £1000 - £1200 a month (with no expenses) 'bonuses' for good behaviour. As soon as they hit 16, they lose their accomodation, have to go on the dole at something like £40-£50 a week (and they do have to pay for expenses then) and so it probably does more harm than good.
The money for these I think comes from donations and from the government, I can't be sure. They tend to have small capacities aroudn 10-12 children in each house. :chin: Foor for thought anyway.
BUT, 2 years ago i owed £8000, and the interest was £150 a year on it. Not bad, no it wasnt bad at all, but i decided to pay half of it off in one go from some of my savings, have an impact, get it down, etc. So no i owe £4000... oh, but the interest per year is now £200... it has gone up as my loan has gone down due to my voluntary payment.
Now thats mental! Fucking economy! Fucking... EVERYTHING!
As irriating as it is, I can deal with that but making poor people who choose to work (when they're often better off on benefits) even poorer to help the rich is unforgivable.
There is also one other question that needs to be answered - would a road-charging system help the poor? On the one hand, yes. But on the other, it might not. Depending on how much the mileage rate is, it could actually be a hindrace, particularly for those on low pay. But then again, this is Failed Labour, the party that believes it right to INCREASE taxes for the poorest by scrapping the 10p tax band. (and no insincere protests from supine Labour MPs will persuade me that they believe otherwise) Since when do they give a crap about those in society who need a hand up?
Ideally, fuel tax would be lowered, and road pricing would be enacted so that if you were driving on a country road in a small car you would pay nearly nothing, if you're driving into london every day in a 4x4 you pay a lot. Hopefully the net tax revenue would remain the same. More investment would be put into public transport in areas where revenues were higher like London - they've been talking for years about double decker trains and all that but it's just a real lack of investment.
The problem with any changes is it all costs money, and maybe it's better for the country to spend the money on schools as Labour have done than on improving transport infrastructure.
The bizarre thing is, the government paid a lot of intelligent people a lot of money to come up with a new solution to traffic, in particular congestion (as there is a big 'opportunity cost' of waiting in traffic, without even considering the environmental aspects) - they came up with a fair solution and really all we've seen is an extra tariff in London implemented locally and no other changes.
Congestion and traffic is a massive issue in the UK, we literally just have less space than other countries for big road networks and so we're seeing the continual expansion of existing motorways, but all that does is increase the supply of road for a limited time. You really need to change the demand for the use of transport on roads, and by simply slapping tax on fuel it pays no attention to the real cost of that journey (if you argue that an ambulance driving to someones aid is a more important journey than a solo commuter who doesn't like taking the train [which is fair enough as public transport is poor in some areas, but thats besides the point] - it's just a blanket charge).
In the future maybe things will change, the government already paid good money to find out one possible solution but with the many wars going on finding money to pump into changing the tax system is difficult. I mean it doesn't cost a lot at all to just charge petrol companies x amount for every bit of petrol they sell, they just do it on the tax return.
It would severely hurt people on low incomes in rural areas - which is actually a lot of people. Stereotypes of rural Britain being entirely dominated by a fox hunting landed gentry is very misleading. Road charging won't happen - any scheme would (unless creating significant exemptions) almost certainly severely hurt parts of Scotland. And exempting huge swathes of Scotland wouldn't be politically acceptable - and would only put further strain on the Union.
the best way is to do away with road tax and even insurance for that matter and put it all in the petrol but we already know what happens then it will go up beyond reason
Bollocks.
Insurance is not a tax and is down to personal circumstances.