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Tax by CCTV!
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Fines now being imposed for illegal parking as seen from CCTV.
One woman has just been fined for stopping on a double yella for 8 seconds. Time for a set of bent plates i think.
One woman has just been fined for stopping on a double yella for 8 seconds. Time for a set of bent plates i think.
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If someone breaks the law and park where they shouldn't when they shouldn't, they deserve a fine- end of story.
Fines taxes all the same.
I can think of quite a few roads where an overhead camera may well see my car as beingparked when the reality is ...i'm waiting for the traffic to move off.
ONe road has a lot of illegal parkers on it daily and if you don't know this one way system well which has two lanes ...you can end up stuck behind the line of illegals waiting for someone to let you out ...FINE ...according to where the camera is looking at it from.
I think they close that loophole up though. Shame. I've been considering an idea of having a button to switch numberplates, a la The Transporter.
They are very heavy handed in some cases though. For example, if there is a really wide pavement with a bicycle rack, it's easy and not inconvenient for pedestrians or cyclists for me with my motorcycle to park there. I have seen some people with mopeds do just that.
It's considered a traffic violation though because they see a motorcycle and say 'motor vehicle on footpath fine'. I was advised not to do it because you can get clamped / towed for it, depending on the local council. Even having said that, if it was extremely wide footpath, why is there a crime of someone parking a small car on it. If it doesn't inconvenience anybody, who was it that said "no victim, no crime".
In any other country I've been to in the world there has been a much more common sense attitude. Although you get cowboys and unlicenced clampers abroad, the police generally (at least in europe and thailand) don't mind so much as long as you're not being a complete tard and blocking an ambulance bay.
Not that I'm defending those who are daft who park wherever because they're lazy, but defending the rights of people to use a bit of common sense and think 'well, there's nothing there, im not in anyones way... I'll just pull up here'.
If a bloke is ignoring the law and parking on a double yellow for an hour, inconveniencing traffic, and there are no wardens around he gets away with his antisocial behaviour. If there is a CCTV in the area that records this behaviour and allows for a fine to be issued and discourage similar future incidents, what's bad about that?
Incidentally there has been CCTV-issued fines in Britain for a long time: those watching bus lanes. And I can certainly vouch for how well they have worked in London. Before they were introduced they were widely ignored.
I think I heard or read somewhere that most people who contest fines get their money back. If that's true it's probably more about targets than anything.
I'm not really against this. I think something needs to be put in place to ensure it's not abused, possibly an independant group of people to watch old CCTV or check paperwork, either randomly or those that have been contested. Maybe the people who are against this idea and seem to have nothing better to do than complain about it could do it.
I think, in general, it's a good idea. In my experience, too many people refuse to take responsibility for their actions when it comes to anything to do with their cars and never consider other people. I agree with Aladdin, if you don't want a fine don't break the law.