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Radical on drugs!
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The latest in the drugs war ...
if an addict fails to turn up for treatment his benefits will stop ...WOW!
It has cost millions of pounds of your money for such a ground breaking ....
i can't go on ...i'm overcome with amazement that government can be so dumb ...so useless ...so vindictive even.
if an addict fails to turn up for treatment his benefits will stop ...WOW!
It has cost millions of pounds of your money for such a ground breaking ....
i can't go on ...i'm overcome with amazement that government can be so dumb ...so useless ...so vindictive even.
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Addicts are notoriously unreliable and live rather disordered lives ...stopping theire measly forty five quid a week or whatever it is can only raise crime levels.
It's not it's propaganda aimed at Middle Englands voters
Maybe Rolly, but there is a big difference between use and addiction. These measures arent aimed at users, who the government largely ignores, they are aimed at the 80,000 or so hardcore crack and heroin addicts who commit frankly alarming amounts of crime.
But you'd only do that to one man...
I remember Not The Nine O'clock News too
if people want to take drugs then let them, we need to get the shame back into drug use, like for example, if u seen some jackass totaly wiped ud be like, i dont wana end up like him
i think the best way to do this is to legalise class c and b drugs cos at least its of the streets and outa the dealers hands plus it can be policed a hell of a lot easier!
Actually according to the government's own research the current system of criminalisation is 'fundamentally flawed' 'contradictory' and 'non based upon sound empirical bases' (ACMD, 2006). If you add to this the report by Lord Birt from 2006 which affirmed the view that current programmes of criminalisation are not working, then it becomes puzzling (or perhaps not) why governments continually reject their own research.
Also; engineering shame is a dangerous game, because it often makes the most vulnerable people even harder to access and help.
What do you mean by "we need to get the shame back into drug use"?
It's not.
They are almost bankrupt, you will see dozens of these kinds of initiatives as they desperately try to get enough cash in to keep operating. Not spending money out and taking more in through extra taxes, fines and licences is the way they are going to try and pay for northern rock and the banking system failure.
Every easy, soft target that can be sold to the public via the papers will be under attack from the NuLabour buffoons. Think of a stupid idea that won't work but will make or save money for the government and will be applauded by the average sun reader and you won't be far wrong.
Drug users, single mothers, immigrants..basically anyone without political or economic clout is going ot get shafted. Anyone 5 minutes late with their tax bill will be fined into oblivion, the standard stuff the desperate pull.
They will fail. The government will financially collapse. Don't worry about it.
So, the way to make drug-taking shameful and morally wrong is legalise most of them? I'm confused.
"coke is the biggest load of balls, at 40 quid a gram it is ridiculuosly dear!!! it barely does anything and its addictive!! its a drug for people who take drugs for the sake of takin drugs!! coke is a dangerous road to go down for a drug that does very little!! for flip sake dope does more to you!! if ur gona take any class a u should beat a few pills into ya, they hardly cost anything and ur fucked for ages, i know a lot of people will say they are worse which i could well beleive but coke is completly pointless!!!" ....
Shitty ...shut the edited to be a bit more polite like.
Nail - Head.
This is the very thing it is. They have no care for the real situation, only the next election.
Welcome to Democracy!
Showing your age now, might have to transfer you to the SPG
*Alcohol
*Cannabis
*Ecstasy
The price and availability of all three has increased since 1990, not gone down. Young people can get more of these, more places, more often - prohibition is simply, categorically, irrefutably not working.
Did you mean the price has gone down and the availablity has gone up?
And even if we could get prohibition to work more effectively the government knows full well that crime would just go up to pay the higher prices.
To me it seems more than a little telling that drug related crime has gone down by 20% over the last few years - during which time prices have dropped around that much to.
Least i'll be busy.
(always look on the bright side).
I'm a PSO, don't have to do paperwork, well not much anyway. We just grab em and bag em
Even the fucking police know the drug war is lost!