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"Demonising Fat People" - Appalled by peoples attitudes.
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I was just making some observations and I should have been clearer that I wasn't specifically arguing against anyone. I do worry, however, that even people who are theoretically sympathetic still think that just because being overweight isn't desirable (any more than being underweight is), it should be easy to lose the excess.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Here we go again
Which part is difficult? I accept it's difficult to begin with as it's a big lifestyle change in many cases.
If your body is in a calorific deficit, then it will shed weight... 500 cals a day deficit should equal around 2lb per week loss..
If you eat too much then increase output
Explain to me the difficulty?
No joke, I have put on so much weight in the last 5 weeks since my Op, I reckon I need to shed a good 2 stone before the summer, I haven't actually put effort into losing weight for years but I still have every confidence in the fact it's doable
It's just dedication and commitment to goals
ETA - What does the bold bit I have highlighted above mean exactly?
Well you got two choices girl
At the end of the day, I'm sure it will do the job, to what extent I don't know, but all you need is something basic
TBH I would just go out and do a brisk walk every day before brekkie to get started
Well it depends what operation it was, on many physical operations they say it's good to do gentle exercise to keep the muscles active or something like that. At least that was the case for my brother was his knees. He saw a physio though, so that was prescribed exercise. *sorry for off topic*
I am 3 weeks behind rehab schedule because I've been looking after the house and my kid too
Rachie - you can stick your bits in whenever you want
Agreed on keeping the cals up though, but I have basically completely thrown my diet out of the window and entered into a 6 week alcohol and shit food binge, been tee total off the drink now for 2 weeks nearly, and diet is nearly returning to normal... thank god!
If you don't like that fact then do something about it. It takes effort to lose weight and become healthy but it's far easier than trying to convince society that being fat is ok
Sounds like a plan, good on ya!
It's not that it won't work you out well it's just a comfort factor etc
It doesn't take courage but it does take personal strength to overcome the comments much to teh fact everyone will encounter different situations and milestones if thats yours then thats your personal target but not courage or even bravery especially against those e.g. Madelines parents who really show courage. I thought I needed courage to walk into an interview and not faint...but thats my personal goal and other people will encounter much worse...it can't be compared.
What I am trying to say is see both sides...I can't stand seeing lazy, fat, arrogant people who do not want to overcome the issue e.g. lose weight...go for a few walks.
My asthma has got bad and I cannot run or do vigorous exercise but I can go for long walks, go swimming or do some housework...its not that hard. I can cut out on choccy, crisps and crap...my new saying is "a moment on the lips a lifetime on the hips" how true it certainly prevents me from eating crap! And then there is Gorgon Brown saying people who lead unhealthy lifestyles should not receive NHS care...not that I fully agree but latest figures showed obese people in future will stretch the NHS to breaking point. I consider myself to be fat and I am working towards my personal goal and getting there...its not hard you know!
its every where not just on these boards. people are confounded with it all the time so its bound to reflect in their opinions and what they write. loosing weight tends to be heralded as a good thing but despite being true for some people is mostly just media hype and yes it does trigger EDs in some people unfortunately.
IMO now a few people have started saying it, everyone else has come up with their feelings.
Also, I feel the threads can be a positive influence, as people can see what they should really be doing, i.e. not starving themselves and shoving fingers down throat etc.
Another point is that if a thread on a forum triggers an eating disorder, then there are clearly underlying issues which need to be addressed.
Eating disorders are never about food - that is merely the focus.
Don't worry - it is being - whilst we wouldn't stop people posting on the subject we're not about to ignore the risks it creates
im glad. i know i'm being overly sensitive but i just didnt like the way the weight loss thread popped up every time i click knew posts. i know it's a really active topic and there isn't a way to stop it. it just seems a bit constant.
:yes: Me too. It good that people want to make positive changes but I do think it has the potential to get bitchy or over-compeitive.
It's not simply loosing weight, it's about being healthy as far as I'm concerned
Eating more healthily, exercising and taking care of yourself SHOULD be heralded as a good thing. That's not going to cause eating dissorders though insulting people, and demonising them for their weight might.
The message that it's ok to be fat is not a good one. Lets not pretend it is.
Oh the irony.
I would say there's a risk it could be used by some poster to abuse others over their weight. I hope that doesn't happen.
But positive talk and discussion about people's worries and safe and effective ways to make them selves healthier is not a bad thing. I'd find it ridiculous if we can't talk about things like that without fear of upsetting 'fat' people.
i was just voicing my opinion that it's a sensitive issue and i dont find it particularly helpful that when i click new posts this one always comes up and is a constant reminder. if you dont understand that then whatever
Exactly. i felt that the original "demonising fat people" thread showed that there are alot of people on these boards who feel strongly about changing things for themselves, people who feel that the boards help them and who draw support, knowledge and strength from the boards. Weight loss is a sensitive issue and the ongoing thread seemed a good way for people to get that, the same as in every other thread where people need help or advice. I can't see it turning into a competition or crossing into unhealthy boundaries coz it's moderated same as all the other threads....plus people step in and say if they think something is unhealthy or wrong.
It's not hugely different to a slimming club is it? and it is no different to the self harm thread, just coz it comes up as having new posts in it doesn't mean that everyone is going to be bothered by it - people might not want to be reminded of that either.
Constant reminder of what? That you shouldn't be obese?
I think most people are aware of that
Don't be crass.
People with issues about their weight may not appreciate that thread popping up every time they log into thesite. I'm well aware that nothing can be done but it was just a point I was making. I'm sure some other posters feel the same.
I'm not being crass, I really don't get what kind of twisted logic you are employing.
Well as said previously, people are dealing with relationship problems, self harm issues, drug problems etc
So what would you suggest, no threads at all that might affect people with problems? Or just people with weight problems?
I don't know if you noticed but most of the threads on this site are of that nature.
Other posters feeling the same means nothing, look how many people voted Bush in
I picked that thread in particular because it was constantly active. Much like the 'what are you listening to now?' thread. I'm not suggesting anything just wondering what other people thought. The only thing I was stating was that me, for myself..personally!!.. it put a dampener on my visit here because whenever I clicked view new posts there was a weight loss thread. That is my own view point so maybe you can stop getting so defensive and drop it.