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im applying for a scholarship to my uni bc i cant afford it.
it sucks. it annoys me when people just doss their way through college and get their parents to fund their uni stuff.
and another thing that drives me insane, is the fact that there is corruption in the top unis. i cannot believe that pembroke college at oxford was gonna let someone have a place if they paid x amount of money. that makes me sick. there are hard working people out there who deserve it way more than those people.
sorry this is jsut a bit of a rant. i am a bit bitter atm.
im going to warwick (if i get the scholarship) and i was reading another post about snobbery and i am worried that i am going to get that there bc it is another top uni. i hope it will be ok!
it sucks. it annoys me when people just doss their way through college and get their parents to fund their uni stuff.
and another thing that drives me insane, is the fact that there is corruption in the top unis. i cannot believe that pembroke college at oxford was gonna let someone have a place if they paid x amount of money. that makes me sick. there are hard working people out there who deserve it way more than those people.
sorry this is jsut a bit of a rant. i am a bit bitter atm.
im going to warwick (if i get the scholarship) and i was reading another post about snobbery and i am worried that i am going to get that there bc it is another top uni. i hope it will be ok!
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I see what you are saying but do you not think that if your parents pay for you, then you feel a responsibility to do well so the money is not wasted?
im worried im gonna get looked down on like pond scum bc im on a scholarship.
However, they can't actually afford to pay that at all, so I have to pay it out of my student loan, as well as pay £90 a week to live in college (because you have too according to their shitty rules).
Anyway, I agree whole heartedly with wht you're saying. Most of the people in college get their daddy's to pay for everything, and their student loan cheques are just small change to them. Whilst I have to work all the hours god sends, at the expense of my course, just to be able to afford to stay there.
There's no justice in this world. But remember, it will be worth it at the end of the day. Just think how proud you can be of yourself!
it's so true and it makes me mad. i guess i was really naive when i came to uni (last year) i thought - oh yeah, all students are poor, everyone will be stuggling. how wrong was i! well i'm doing a medical degree so that probably affects it too but it just winds me up that we have lectures 9-5pm EVERY DAY (except weds afternoon)then I have to work a 10-hour day on Saturday (oh yes 7am-5pm in a shop is fun fun fun) and when i come out of it with a worse degree than everyone else here everyone will just reckon i'm dumb. and over half the people here come from private school, which winds me up too. how can that be representative of the population??? anyway gonna stop ranting now (btw sorry to any1 who's rich who i've just offended)
There's as much inverted snobbery as there is snobbery and I think people make too much of both. Friends of mine at state schools think posh people are going to treat them like shit and think they're stupid because they aren't as rich: on the other hand, loads of people at my public school think that they'll be discriminated against as well. I don't reckon many people care either way, to be honest, although a friend of mine did get asked at interview why someone who'd had such an easy life as she had deserved a place. Why have a chip on your shoulder about it? just treat people as individuals and ignore how much fucking money they have. It couldn't matter less. WHat are you meant to do if your parents pay your fees for you? seriously, would you reject it and work your way through yourself? Much better to work hard and get a degree which at least justifies their help. Of course it sucks if someone complains about how hardup they are in that situation - but you shouldn't judge everyone because of one person. And no, it isn't representative when half of students come from public schools, but it's pretty representative of the people who apply, and the unis can't give people a place if they don't want to go there.
a friend of mine who is at private school (yes it's true, i don't hate all posh people) got asked at interview whether she thought you should have to get higher grades to get in if you came from private school. i don't know what i think but it's an interesting question methinks.... what does every1 else think???
Hopefully universities judge on your potential to learn rather than your grades alone - that way its at least a little more balanced, though clearly the existence of an environment conducive to learning will make you more enthusiastic about it in future etc.etc.
I don't know. It's hard not to feel like a c unt when you're at private school, because you're being innately hypocritical if you think the divide sucks but continue to let your parents pay thousands each year to give you a head start. It sucks. there's another argument that teh existence of highly academic private schools with small classes and good teachers etc. is actually ogod for everyone because it nurtures talented people which can only be good for society. that would be more convincing if there was a link between parental wealth and a child's intelligence!
No, NO, and NO
Academic institutions select on the basis of grades. That's it. End of.
When you start to introduce a bias to weight your applications to be politically correct, then you're being foolish and corrupting the system. Many comprehensive school children, let's face it, should not be at universities, but are, because of political motivation, the creation of universities and degree courses that shouldn't be, and because of the anticipated social life.
That, IMHO, is wrong.
just wondering if i'm included in that?
speaking as someone who can't actually wait to get through the next four years so i can leave uni, precisely because all the people around me are exactly as you describe - just in it for a laugh really. are they from comprehensives? no, they're the ones i was complaining about in the first place, daddy's little darlings who are here because they are "expected" to go to uni. personally i'm here coz i want to get a degree. end of story
Medicine is different. Daddy's girls won't get in to med. school, since it requires some degree of commitment. If they are in other subjects, fine, but I would doubt them being medics.
i'd challenge you on that one. you should come round and see some of the idiots here. mind you, i'm conforting myself with the fact that they'll probably fail the year and get chucked out seeing as they never go to any lectures
Yes some privately educated students have an arrogance about them, but there are plenty that are totally down-to-earth. Just in the same way that there are plenty of state educated students who couldn't care less about lectures.
And as a fellow medic, I must say that in my experience, there are equal numbers of each.
quite possibly yes
but anyway can we just call a truce? sorry i'm being a bitch, i'm in a lousy mood coz i have no mates here and taking it out on you, sorry.
x bella x
not at all. so did i.
btw i'm quite a nice person really, i just have a bee in my bonnet about rich people, but i'm trying hard to get rid of it so bear with me!
bella xxx
Cant you get some financial support from the LEA?
Also, to do with the 'daddy's girls' that are out all night clubbing - this is probably the first time they are out, away from the pressure from their parents to achieve, and instead of carrying that on, they will have buckled back - if there's noone around to tell them they have to work, they won't because they're not used to doing it under their own steam/out of their own wants.
Well, thank you for your informed and unbiased decision making. I particularly like how you take no notice of what I've said, and pay attention to emotive descriptors. I wish you well with your studies.
Just for your information, the world didn't give me anything. My parents have 5 O-levels between them. I took an exam for grammar school on an offchance, and was lucky to get it. For eight years now, I have worked as hard as I can to get where I am. I am proud of where I come from, and what I do, and where I am now. But most of all, I am proud to say that "I got here". I didn't get it because of Daddy, or a £300,000 payment (Pembroke have since clarified, and it won't happen).
I'm not rich, and I will have to work throughout summer to fund my studies. I can't work during term time, not only is there not enough time, but it's not allowed by the College.
You have a hang up about upper class, or rich people? That's a vast generalisation. Some of my good friends are privately educated, very wealthy, and some of the best people you could possibly wish to meet.
I would recommend that you make a complete examination of all the facts before you rush in to a diagnosis and apply treatment, Doctor.