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Leisurely student life
**helen**
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Students who don't work hard get on Laura's nerves.
Read her rant and see if anything she says sounds familiar
Read her rant and see if anything she says sounds familiar
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One of my mates nearly failed last year, so I thought that would shock her into working this year. Apparently not. I've barely seen her. How hard is it to attend 9 hours of lectures etc a week?? NINE hours??? :banghead:
"For me, that £50 could pay for two weeks worth of food shopping, or a return train ticket home for the weekend."
Where does she live?? My uni's up north & my home's down south, so they couldnt be much further away from each other if I'd tried. But I managed to get a train ticket home for Christmas at £15 :thumb: Well impressed!! Thats planning ahead, people. I booked it like halfway through term, cos if I booked it now it would be sky-high. Woop woop!! :yippe:
Anyway, yup, totally get what she's saying, but hey, its their life. If they wanna waste their opportunity, they can. I'm just gonna work damn hard to get a good degree.
Fair enough, people who do constant partying and don't go to class are going to fail, but both partying and working can be done. :thumb:
I rarely turned up to lectures 1st and 2nd year and when I did, rarely actually paid attention or listened. Final year yes I turned up, but did spend most of the lectures either writing/talking to friends during them, playing games etc. Lectures to me were an utter waste of time...lets listen to a lecture read out some notes that he's basically copied from a text book we've been made to buy anyway. But what I did was a lot of work during those days when I wasn't turning up in my own time to keep on top of it all. I could still be out every evening drinking and partying as well.
There's no way of knowing what people do behind closed doors and people shouldn't rant about what they don't know. Students who don't do the work fail, others pass and those who work hard get top marks. Why does anyone else care about what others are doing...it's their lives and let them live it the way they want.
When in fact that means they've read a couple of books in the last few weeks, been to a couple of lectures and maybe written an essay.
I'm an engineering student, on a light day I've been to at least 2 lectures, either done a practical or put in a good few hours on a write up or mark up for a practical, and another good couple of hours doing problem sheets.
I don't care whether other people work or not, as long as it doesn't affect my work, what gets me is when some lazy arts student thinks they have a high work load.
And before I get leapt on, I say arts students because they will always have a lighter scheduled time table than science students, thus if they do no work outside compulsory stuff, they'll be doing less than science students doing the same.
Apparently, the hours that you spend on each course at British universities is, on average, lower than in most other countries. I understand comparisons aren't particularly easy, given how different the contents of these degrees will be, but I do find it odd, to say the least.
Part of that is funding issues, and another part is the way we study. In the UK far more independent study is expected of students.
I had 1 hour lecture and 1 hour practical per module, although it was actually 13 hours 1st year, 12 hours 2nd year and 8 hours 3rd year. We were expected to put 8 hours a week in per module though including the lecture time and a lot of our course was practical stuff that could only be taught through experience rather than sitting in a lecture theatre.
As for hours of study, when I first went to university in Cardiff, I couldn't believe how few hours of lectures and seminars I had. I really didn't think it was worth the money.
When I went to another uni, I had far more hours of class time.
Personal study time is all very well, but it's not the same.
4 hours of lectures
8 hours of seminars
Ooh ooh ooh.
Slight bit of course elitism there maybe
I think it's a shame that some people think difficulty = hours. A friend of mine was doing chemistry and he just found it tedious, not difficult (that was 30 hours a week).
I'm not picking on you, but I think it's important in any field not to get blinkered vision and realise that people require different skills to do different tasks. The management side of my course gets interesting next year when I will have to depend on other people for my grade (:() - but collaborative learning like isn't the kind of thing I would have been learning in my maths degree - and I'd rather improve my confidence in working with people than my expertise at using a mathematical programming language.
As for the girl, well I think it's good she's working hard but I wonder is she making enough effort to get out? In the first term I've gone out nearly at least once, and at £10-£15 a pop (I went out for £5 last week though, woo!) it can be manageable in a student budget. Obviously as the workload gets heavier you need to do more work, but even at the peak (45 hours) there are enough hours left in the week to finish your work up early on wednesday and let your hair down.
The people who spend £50 are the ones who end up in debt, don't worry about them
I sense future Fleet St. hack cum Private Eye Grauniad fodder here.
My heart bleeds for all of those doing 30 hour weeks, I'll just keep dreaming about those, but that's my own fault for doing a silly course at a silly uni.
I'm not trying to knock any courses which is why i havnt mentioned any in particular but workload varies enormously between courses. Or maybe im just jealous some people didnt have to do exams.
Oh my goodness! I'm majorly pissed off because this term I've had just 2 months and 1 week of lectures and seminars and thats cost me £6306 (incl accomodation, uni's classed me as an international student tho I pay my taxes grrr obv slightly bitter about that one!).
The only thing that gets me in my lecture halls is thinking how much my parents have to pay a year. I love my course and all but what is said in lectures is in the books anyway so I could miss it but my parents are paying for it so I feel bad not going.
I thought 1st year uni was supposed to be a breeze but I've never been so busy in my life!
basically you can do as much or as little work as you like. although there's a fair amount of pressure from tutors, DoSs etc. there's always a happy medium though. i figure work all day, party all night!
thats pretty much how its supposed to be and where the expression comes from that you actually have to "read for your degree" - but it shouldn't be all about work either esp. not as an undergrad. in fact i don't know many people who would honestly say they didn't party a lot as 1st years. the 1st year is not ever mentally taxing enough - i've many grad friends who say the same. if you want to be taxed mentally imo you'd be better with a 40hr/week career or being a direct entrant to the 3rd year of your degree where you would be expected to work.
Fair enough if that's what you want to do but most students prefer to have a bit of fun!
I think some people are naturally more studious than others anyway but I certainly wasn't and for me going to university was about spending a few years away from home with friends, having a laugh and doing things that you can't really do when you're working full time in a permanent job. I don't regret a single minute of it, and I look back at those times and those friends as something special. I still got my degree and a job in the industry I wanted so what's wrong with that!
at first i was happy with this arrangement - not having to get up early and have a lie in 6 days a week, however, having done practically NOOOO work this term, im starting to miss the days when i had 10hrs plus a week and had strict deadlines.
at least then i HAD to do work, because i had to come into lectures and give the work in. now, the only things i have to hand in to my tutor are my dissertation in april and my final major project in may. this has resulted in me lying in making up excuses to stay in bed 'just an hour longer'... which then turns into 2.. and then i HAVE to watch a certain programme... and then tidy my room.. and by the time i finally decide to do work, its too late and i go to bed
its a bad cycle and i need to get out of it! otherwise i seriously see myself failing. now im back at home my mum and dad are making me do work tho. which im liking
So what you're basically saying is that you science students need your hands holding the whole time, whereas the art students are intelligent enough to work it out for themselves?
I think the ones with fewer contact hours are just the ones where you need to read more.
And I love the people who never go out and work really hard. I love it when you've been out every night, handed an essay in, and you compare marks, and you've got the same. There's one important lesson in life, that with most things, you get to the stage where you could spend the rest of your life working on it, and it would just never get any better.
I think i went to most lectures in semester 1 of the first year, but soon realised that i didn't need to as all the slides were from text books anyways. Thus i practically stopped going.
It may not be the right way, but the way i've done things for the first, second and first semester of the third year, is to enjoy the patying and socialising then spend a week at the end of each semester working on essays, courseworks and everything else. I know myself that had i put a little more effort in i could have gotten better marks than what i have got, but for the experience i have had, my grades are pleasing to me. (I'm on a 2.1 in my main module and a first in my with module.
I really don't see the point in spending whatever hours it is you have in a lecture hall when you can learn it all yourself in your own time.
Although I think alot of that is down to the amount of hours I have to do for my course. When on placement I have to do 37.5 hours a week and when I'm in university it's normally 9-5 everyday