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There's no evidence that they said anything for the coppers to go off. Theres evidence you kicked fuck outta them tho.
That's the problem with provacation it's designed to get a reaction and in this case you did react (quite extremely imo) if maybe you or your friend had reacted differently this may just have turned out as a nasty slanging match with no assault or charges.
You could with legal advice claim you were provoked but this would be hard to prove.
Got to be honest if someone said that to one of my mates, I would of given them a slap as well, but I wouldn't of hung around for the pigs
I think a few months inside will bring you down to earth ...... with a fucking big thump.
Big difference between a slap and GBH though isn't there. Unless by slap you also mean "to put in hospital".
And by the sounds of it he didn't wait through choice....
Fair points mate.. and yes very big difference you are right!
But my point was we don't know if he gave him a hammering or if he just punched him and he fell and hit his head or something.. I'm guessing from his posting attitude though they gave him a hammering which is definately wrong.
What makes me laugh the most is that someone like Ricardo would even hit someone lol .... and be able to do damage
It's probably a load of bollocks anyway
I think from his general attitude, and the GBH charge we can assume he did some damage.
Yes there is chance the pre-CPS charges have been inflated and the CPS will instead decide to charge for ABH, but you can't rely on that.
I'm just amazed to see he's counting on his upbringing to get him out of it, because if he goes to court with the attitude he has right now the judge will quite happily take him down a peg or 2, especially as he has shown zero concern or remorse for the bloke he punched.
Now don't get me wrong, the guy he punched was quite probably a cunt, there's no excuse for what he did. But beating the shit out of him wasn't called for either.
The law quite clearly says there is a difference. The racist bloke, if found guilty of racially aggravated public order could get at the most 2 years inside, which is extremely unlikely. More likely he will be charged with non-racially aggravated as there is no proof and will probably get an £80 fine.
You on the other hand are facing 5 years inside if convicted and possibly another 3 months inside for the criminal damage to the mirror.
Maybe when things have moved forward Ricardo you can let us know about it - but for now I think it's pretty obvious what people feel about your actions.
let me make it clear, I agree with you that the bloke is a scumbag. But you can't rely on that to condone your actions in court. The laws are very clear on what constitutes self-defence and there is lots of case law showing what amounts to reasonable excuse and other lawful defences. You need to start thinking of something else other than "the bloke was a cunt who deserved it" for court.
I hate soooo much the way that you have to refer to peoples class/university/career/salary no matter what your tealking about. Whether its a peice of cheese of putting someone in a coma.
I never thought somebody on the end of a computer could annoy me so much.
:yes: and that means he deserves his head banging into a mirror repeatedly does it? :chin: Just brings you down to his level imo.
Anyway thanks for the other advice - I have a job lined up for after Christmas and am looking forward to getting back to normal and having a better year next year.
You are right of course. Your friend isn't a "smelly immigrant".
He's a violent thug.
Grooming, breeding education - it meant fuck all really because the only reaction he had wasn't to use any of that. It was a neanderthal instinct to beat the shit out of someone.
Oh, and as an aside. There whilst he may have been provoked and the judge may take the "race card".... you have no such excuse. You were not abused in any way.
Hope you get a maximum stretch - or have practiced the handshake
congratulations mate, onwards and upwards i hope.