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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Poppy-cock! And there's no way you really believe that.

    In what way does my disbelief in a supernatural dictator equate with the dogmas of organised religion?

    Edit: Fuck it, this deserves it's own topic.
    Because you have a staunch belief in no God, many have a staunch belief in the existance of God(s).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    Because you have a staunch belief in no God, many have a staunch belief in the existance of God(s).

    And there the comparison ends. I believe that there is no God. Others believe there is. I have no belief system as a result of my belief; a orthodox Jew has a very strict belief system as a result of his.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And there the comparison ends. I believe that there is no God. Others believe there is. I have no belief system as a result of my belief; a orthodox Jew has a very strict belief system as a result of his.

    Of course you believe in a system, you believe in what you were socialised in to, you have your own set of morals and ideals and you have some degree of faith that your own beliefs have some truth to them.

    Whether or not you believe in God, you still could have faith for example in the idea that murder is wrong and that you are right in thinking that. It doesn't matter if God says so or not, you still may believe murder to be true, but for different reasons.

    Somebody may put their religion in prophets and we do in other people such as scientists and newsreaders. At the end of the day, these newsreaders could be compleely bullshitting you and scientists could not be telling the whole truth either... But we trust them.

    A lot of people feel they experience some supernatural force in their life, but who's to say they are wrong? Because our prophets of science and people on the news and some philosophers say it's bullshit?

    People rationalise their lives around what they are exposed to. Atheist, Buddhist, Pagan, Jain, Christian, Muslim.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have a set of beliefs, but they aren't dictated to me by my atheism.

    I don't have faith that murder is wrong; i have a very real, evidence based, understanding of why i think murder is wrong.

    We all experience things we can explain or understand; these experiences don't infer God.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have a set of beliefs, but they aren't dictated to me by my atheism.

    I don't have faith that murder is wrong; i have a very real, evidence based, understanding of why i think murder is wrong.

    We all experience things we can explain or understand; these experiences don't infer God.

    Again, these are your BELIEFS...

    These are your MORALS...

    But morality is abstract.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    Again, these are your BELIEFS...

    These are your MORALS...

    But morality is abstract.

    :confused:

    I have some beliefs. They are my beliefs. They aren't dictated by my lack of belief in God. A theists beliefs are frequently dictated by their belief in a deity, and the doctrine of said faction. Ergo, your statement that my belief system is equatable to that of theist is wrong.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :confused:

    I have some beliefs. They are my beliefs. They aren't dictated by my lack of belief in God. A theists beliefs are frequently dictated by their belief in a deity, and the doctrine of said faction. Ergo, your statement that my belief system is equatable to that of theist is wrong.
    And your beliefs are dictated by society and your own teachings.

    Everybody rationalises the world to our own experiences, our morality to our own experiences. We are all the same, it's just that we view some things differently and of course, we believe our views and morals are right.

    So I believe the mentality of our earthly experiences are not that much different really. I don't see atheists as having any different a view on life than theists because they believe, or don't in a deity or supreme being. To you there is no God, but there are other things in your life which are universally subjective but which you take to be reality.

    Doesthat make sense?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    Doesthat make sense?

    American philosopher Dan Dennet explains the difference in types of belief better than I ever could. Just fast-forward through the annoying woman at the start, if you're interested.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    J wrote: »
    I reckon most of you are hindu.

    :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    American philosopher Dan Dennet explains the difference in types of belief better than I ever could. Just fast-forward through the annoying woman at the start, if you're interested.
    Will definately check it out...

    But any non-biased sources would probably be more appropriate for backing up an arguement (as would be said to a Christian who provided a source from their belief system).
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