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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
I'm having a few issues and it's bugging me. So I need advice. Yeh.

There are two things really, first being that they're really rather lazy in regards to washing up etc. I know a couple of them do wash up their stuff, but there is constantly a massive pile of dirty dishes which don't belong to me, and everyone insists is not theirs. I've spend over an hour and a half washing up twice in the last month because I'm sick of looking at it, and one of my flatmates has her parents here today and they're doing the washing up together. I had no thank you from anyone last time I did it and I don't know why I bothered tbh. It just ends up that the people that are just leaving it there are using all their own stuff and then when that's all dirty, using everyone else's stuff so that nobody has anything. And it's getting on my nerves.

The second thing is that they're stealing my food ;(. Stuff like ketchup and butter and to an extent milk (which is always bought by me or one of my other flatmates and I hardly see any of) and bread, I don't mind. But I bought some eggs on Sunday for ME and since then they've all disappeared. I know it sounds like I'm being picky but I really can't afford to be repeatedly spending money on things which I end up not using at all.

I don't want to be all naggy with everyone but I can't really deal with people stealing my food and not doing their fair share of the washing up etc. All the stuff I have that doesn't need to be refrigerated stays in my room but stuff like eggs and things like that, I can't stop people taking and I hate that they just do it without asking. How do I stop them being like that without sounding boring and naggy?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    get a mini fridge for your room for the chilled stuff???
    but seriously, maybe just say something subtle like "guys, did anyone break any of my eggs? only ive noticed they're all gone+i dont have the money to replace them, so if someone's knocked them out of the fridge and broke them,its cool, just lemme know next time, ok?"
    That way they may think "shit, she's noticed, better not do that again"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Write your name on all your fridge stuff. Do you have your own shelves in the fridge or is it a free for all? ~Oh and you don't have to refrigerate eggs, they are ok at room temp (obviously don't keep them in the sun or anything!)

    I hated living with flatmates, I think most people do at uni.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Write your name on all your fridge stuff. Do you have your own shelves in the fridge or is it a free for all? ~Oh and you don't have to refrigerate eggs, they are ok at room temp (obviously don't keep them in the sun or anything!)

    I hated living with flatmates, I think most people do at uni.
    Most of it is fine, because it all gets shoved on the top shelf of the fridge. I think I'm the only one who keeps their stuff on one shelf now though, since I keep finding things on my shelf that don't belong to me. I might start writing my name on stuff. I know it will probably look pathetic but then they have no excuse for nicking my eggs.

    I totally didn't know I could keep eggs out of the fridge! I will keep them in my little cubby-hole next time I buy them :yes:.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They're never refrigerated in shops, they are stored in the normal grocery warehouse and are usually shelved with the cakes rather than in a fridge.

    Get a big black marker and scrawl your name over all your things, or use sticky labels. It's only going to be seen as petty by the people who are taking your food because they won't have an excuse to steal now. It's your stuff and if you want to write your name on it you can.

    Move people's stuff off your shelf if you want to. Last year I used to come home after the weekend and find they'd used all my butter, and filled the fridge up with juice so there was no room for me to store any food in it. I mean yeah I wasn't there at weekends but I lived there for the rest of the week!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They're never refrigerated in shops, they are stored in the normal grocery warehouse and are usually shelved with the cakes rather than in a fridge.

    Get a big black marker and scrawl your name over all your things, or use sticky labels. It's only going to be seen as petty by the people who are taking your food because they won't have an excuse to steal now. It's your stuff and if you want to write your name on it you can.

    Move people's stuff off your shelf if you want to. Last year I used to come home after the weekend and find they'd used all my butter, and filled the fridge up with juice so there was no room for me to store any food in it. I mean yeah I wasn't there at weekends but I lived there for the rest of the week!
    Yeh, I found out the other day that they'd used all my butter too. Considering I barely used it I was a bit annoyed about that as well. I might go buy me a permanent marker tomorrow and write all over my stuff.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Couple of tricks we use...

    We've got a washing up bowl (although box/crate does the trick), and dirty stuff that gets left lying around gets put in the bowl which at least makes it less unsightly.

    Making slightly pointed comments towards people who you see/know use your cutlery/crockery that you are quite happy for them to use it but please make sure it's washed up and put back afterwards.

    Fridge wise, see if you can suggest each having a shelf, 'makes it a lot easier to know what you've got and so you don't forget about things that get hidden behind something of someone elses'. That way it is clearer what's yours and what isn't. Then you can hide your butter at the back of your shelf.

    Write your name on all your stuff you put in the fridge door.

    It might be worth suggesting sharing milk. Get a piece of paper and stick it to the front of the fridge with each name and a tally space, then every time someone buys milk they put a mark against their tally. That way you don't end up with a million bottles of milk in the fridge but the cost is split.

    Don't know if they'll work for you, but they've always helped in our shared kitchens.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    I hated living with flatmates, I think most people do at uni.

    They really don't! Fair enough if you get unlucky and have some bitch to live with but most people do just fine living with people and they even come to be their best mates. I know mine did. I think it's all about compromise when you start living with people you have only just met. They have different habits and different morals. Ok you don't really want people stealing your stuff or leaving a mess but you just have to have some give and take.

    I'm not sure how much you can do really Franki.. in 2nd year me and a load of mates moved into a house and it was always the same couple of people who did all the cleaning (myself not included) so in 3rd year we made a rota so that everyone did something. some poeple aren't that tidy/take longer to notice things so you get the clean freaks who clean everything up for everyone and then the less tidy people don't have to bother because they know it will get done. Perhaps when theres a big pile up you could say to the person who doesn't wash up "wow this kitchens a mess! will you help me clean it up a bit?"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Our kitchen at uni used to get a real state! So every sunday we decided that at least two of us would have a massive clear up of the kitchen and living area. It was normally alternated between the 6 of us. That way because it was so nice and clean it generally didn't get very messy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i never used to worry about stuff like this when i was at uni, saying that tho i only ever shared with 3 people max and i guess its just what people make of it, i wouldnt bother if someone took something of mine, just take something of theirs when you need it.

    we never got caught up in this whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours, i dont mind people nicking something of mine if they want it as long as they dont mind when you take theirs.

    maybe see if you can come to this sort of arrangement unless its not your thing?

    on the cleaning thing, i cant really comment cos i was a dirty bastard at uni, altho i tended to wash my own stuff up when i'd finished and let other people worry about their own stuff being dirty.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I hated living with flatmates, I think most people do at uni.

    I really don't get why so many people on thsi site ahve said that. Fair enough maybe if it's in your first year and you are in shared flats, rather than halls. But from the second year onwards surely you'd choose to live with mates and people you get on with rather than randoms?

    I'm still good mates with everyone i lived with at uni, more so than the people whom i didn't share a house with at some point.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    koe_182 wrote: »
    we never got caught up in this whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours, i dont mind people nicking something of mine if they want it as long as they dont mind when you take theirs.

    I don't mind if it's the odd thing, but I paid for 6 eggs and I expect to be able to at least eat one of them, but there are none left. I just don't understand how someone can blatantly take the last of something which they know doesn't belong to them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Franki wrote: »
    I just don't understand how someone can blatantly take the last of something which they know doesn't belong to them.

    Try your birthday cake. Which would have been chucked out if I hadn't put it in the fridge to stop it getting crusty.

    Can't stand mine at the moment. They leave dishes out which crust over and are a bitch to wash, they leave all their crap on my shelf in the bathroom and don't put the towel on right after i ask them not to do it.

    Heavy.
    Fucked.
    Off.

    :impissed:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Do you get on well with your housemates? Perhaps you could mention to one or 2 of them " has anyone seen my eggs coz i bought 6 the other day and they've all gone! i wouldnt mind people borrowing as long as they asked"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    1983 wrote: »
    don't put the towel on right after i ask them not to do it.

    lol..what?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lipsy is right cleaning rotas are the win and just mention the missing eggs. hopefully people will get the hint. last year someone used all my butter and put the empty tub in fridge and i went a bit batshit. :lol: i was broke in fairness.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Even if you're really good mates with someone though, living with them can put a strain on the friendship if you have different habits (for example if one is super clean and one a bit slack). I used to live with 3 of my best mates in uni, we're all still friends now but 2 of them absolutely did my head in with their messiness. I remember coming back to the house once after a weekend at home, my mum and stepdad had come with me to see my house, and every single piece of crockery and cutlery in the house was dirty and stacked on the kitchen table because nobody could be arsed to clean them. Also, we tried having separate washing up bowls for each of us (the idea being we could see at a glance what we had each made dirty and would therefore clean up after ourselves) but the two messy girls used to just get stuff dirty and pile it in their bowls until there was nothing left for any of us to use. I remember going through one of their bowls once looking for something and a whole cloud of green mouldy spores coming flying up off a plate into my face :yuck:

    Maybe you could keep a cup, bowl, plate, saucer, some cutlery and a couple of pans in your room? I know it's a bit extreme but at least you'll always have clean stuff.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote: »
    lol..what?

    I am always the one who ends up properly gutting the bathroom, and they don't put the towel on right and it ends up on the floor hence more washing and shite and they don't put it on and fuck me this is fucking me off more than i'd like it to. :impissed:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aye, that's halls for ya. Probably the fellas too, just call a meeting and explain the situation. "I don't mind people borrowing, just ask first." End of story.

    This year is actually not too bad, living with two fellas but one of them likes cleaning up. :eek:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can sympathise because my friend downstairs is living with two really skanky girls. My friend returned from the weekend away when the two girls had the place to themselves cuz everyone went home and the bin was piled high..not just overflowing but the leaning tower of food remains oh and egg shells on the floor where they had obviously missed the bin..they leave their dishes on the table with dried up food crusting over it..eurghhhh.

    definitely dont feel bad about naming your food..it's yours and the occassional borrowing some milk is fine but stealing your food is unfair. In our kitchen we have a shelf for ourselves and when I come back after the weekend the fridge is usually full of their stuff so I have to move their stuff out the way.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm in with an Irish girl justnow, we have our moments (she refused to do her washing up when people were coming to see the flat - she slammed a few doors, Celtic temper methinks), but thankfully the guy in the flat who was (still is probably) a total condescending prick moved out a couple of weeks ago.

    She's too polite sometimes though, she waited till I came home tonight to ask me if she could have a couple of my potato waffles. Told her not to be so silly and help herself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hi. to be honest i took the full piss out of my geeky flatmates who wrote on all their stuff, one lad wrote 'ste' on every egg he owned. it was beyond sad. think u need to have a chat with them, obviously they shouldnt take the piss but i reckon they'll think you a bit tight if u scrawl your name all over your stuff. my 2p.
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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    We had a kitty at uni. We each put in about £2 a week and we would use that for things like milk, bread, cleaning stuff, cheese etc. It worked really well. You could suggest something like that? We also had a cleaning rota, but it was mainly for things like hoovering, dusting, bathroom, kitchen (not dishes but the floor, splashbacks etc). This made it easier. However, not doing your own dishes is skanky. It is alright every so often, but when you finish doing what you were doing, it's manners to leave the kitchen tidy for the next person.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote: »
    They really don't! Fair enough if you get unlucky and have some bitch to live with but most people do just fine living with people and they even come to be their best mates. I know mine did. I think it's all about compromise when you start living with people you have only just met. They have different habits and different morals. Ok you don't really want people stealing your stuff or leaving a mess but you just have to have some give and take.

    I'm not sure how much you can do really Franki.. in 2nd year me and a load of mates moved into a house and it was always the same couple of people who did all the cleaning (myself not included) so in 3rd year we made a rota so that everyone did something. some poeple aren't that tidy/take longer to notice things so you get the clean freaks who clean everything up for everyone and then the less tidy people don't have to bother because they know it will get done. Perhaps when theres a big pile up you could say to the person who doesn't wash up "wow this kitchens a mess! will you help me clean it up a bit?"

    My flatmates are lovely too, we've bonded really well and all tend to use each other's stuff (I mean, it's a case of if we're in the kitchen and someone says 'has anyone got any milk' and everyone offers lol).

    Although last year I had a problem of anonymous thiefs who help themselves to everything. Well, I know who it was. In the end she packed it in after a while, dunno why, I bitched about her behind her back - maybe why! ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Piss in your milk.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just clean up behind yourself and write your name on the eggs !
    Actually write your name on whatever food you can so they get the point and keep food that you can in your room. I would get annoyed if someone was eating my food unless they asked.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i wouldnt be arsed with any of that i'd just eat some of their food at some point in the future and its all good

    i think its a bit sad when it gets to the point of crying over a bit of butter and wanting to stick labels with your name on a box of bloody eggs!
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    **helen****helen** Deactivated Posts: 9,235 Supreme Poster
    z- wrote: »
    i think its a bit sad when it gets to the point of crying over a bit of butter and wanting to stick labels with your name on a box of bloody eggs!

    Except if you're skint, hungry and someone eats all your food that is actually worth saying something about. A box of eggs may not sound like much, but when it's your dinner it is. It's finding that balance between being assertive and not nagging that's hard, hence why having a rota, and either labelling food or having clearly separated storage areas, can really make a difference.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think labelling food is the worst thing you can do!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yea just be like 'umm dont eat all the eggs next time leave some for me' or some shit i don't see the big issue

    its defo making a mountain out of a molehill by stickin labels etc on stuff instead of just mentioning it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    z- wrote: »
    i think its a bit sad when it gets to the point of crying over a bit of butter and wanting to stick labels with your name on a box of bloody eggs!

    I don't care about the butter. But I didn't spend money on a box of eggs just so everyone else could eat them. I wouldn't have even minded so much if they'd even asked if they could take the last one. I just think it's rude to take the last of something that you know doesn't belong to you.
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