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Challenge 21
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Man, 72, refused alcohol over age
Is this taking the 'Challenge 21' policy a little bit too far?
I think this gent sums it up well by saying:
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Is this taking the 'Challenge 21' policy a little bit too far?
I think this gent sums it up well by saying:
I applaud any efforts to stop kids being served and standing on street corners getting drunk. But this was just totally stupid.
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well if they have to ask everyone i cant see what he has to compain about,
Pathetic..what happened to common sense?
It died a long time ago lol.
I can see them challenging a young looking 30 year old perhaps, but it's taking it a bit far.
If I didn't know better, I'd say you love to be contrary.
But surely if someone looks old, then you'd have no reason to ask them?
I agree it is stupid, but I can see why the cashier asked - Morrisons will try to sack you for anything.
Why is it they ask if you look under 21? I think most places do this - I'm sure there was a notice about this in the local co-op.
this case just brings back memories of when i was out clubbing and a 40 year old man in front of me was asked for i.d and didn't have any therefore refused his entry but they let me and all my friends in and we were only 17!
All shop owners and the person making the sale are threatened with severe consequences if they don't comply with the order.
Police and councils work together as agent provocateurs both to justify their existence and to cream a little more cash from any fine that would be imposed.
Morrisons policy seems to be to check EVERYONE, not just those who look under 21, and as the policy is applied to everyone that man - although it is a bit ridiculous,yes - should have accepted that. HOWEVER, the manager didn't have any excuse for acting the way the man said he did. It might be stupid but that's just the way Morrisons works. I expect you know that if you sell alcohol to someone under 18, you yourself gets the £80 fine and not the shop? You can also lose your job so I would definitely check everyone, especially while working at Morrisons as they are more strict than other supermarkets (esp the Co-op, where I have also worked). Co-op actually let you use your discretion!
Never seen them, but it's not something I've really looked for. In the little corner shop near me, there's nothing like that, but they do have the stuff about how it's illegal to seel tobacco products to anyone under 16.
I've never heard about this fine until now.
Quite frequently, underage people are sent in to buy lottery, alcohol and tobacco as a test for the cashiers. If you sell them the product, you get a fine and risk losing your job.
Tobacco age limit is going up to 18 soon as well.
So, this man should have realised that if the cashier had not asked him for ID, she could have quite possibly lost her job, even though he was of age. SO he should have accepted this and shown ID, and then there would have been no problem. I expect that the cashier thought that keeping her job was more important than being thought of as ridculous by some old man.
I guess the manager was just sticking up for his staff, which is a good quality. However, if I had asked this gent and he refused to comment I'd have said something like "I'll take that as a 'yes' shall I?" and got on with it. As it was there was probably a scene that could have been avoided and the staff member probably felt worse than if she'd just let it pass.
She didn't even ask him for ID though, she asked him to confirm he was over 21. At least that's the way I read it.
Which I would've prefered as well.
I think the challenge 21 policy is a good one as it shifts the blame of having to check ages away from the cashier and onto the company.