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How is this subforum legal??
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I'm not trying to be on my high horse condemning drug takers etc, I'm just honestly curious- more a question for mods/admin - how on earth is this subforum legal? People talking about taking pills, cocaine etc, often when they're linking to their MySpace page which gives their identity. It's not hard surely for the Police to demand (via court order?) the site reveal email addys / IPs of people in this forum, who could be done based on evidence here.
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And really it's not that big a deal it's not like anyone is smuggling millions of ££ worth of cocaine or anything.
The police could track the people down but as I said its not illegal to talk about drugs, so the police would have to find illegal substances on them. This would involve a lot of time and resources simply to catch someone with a spliff.
Bearing in mind the police have bigger fish to fry than confiscating Ed's pills . The top priority of the police is to catch the big dealers rather than the humble users.
Take a trip to the real world lad.
It's not illegal to talk about drugs, and when the "official" sites are as dangerously poor as Frank there's a need for this sort of board. And the police can't nick someone for saying they've taken 47 E this week, because it isn't illegal to take drugs.
Riddiculous equals the law, my friend!
Doubt it's illegal though, but if people are arranging stuff like drugs meets or deals then this place would find it harder to get funding which = a bad thing.
I admit people should exercise some caution about what they admit to, buts it a personal choice after all. People are always going to take drugs, so its better it can be discussed openly and informed choices are made about what you out unto your body and how it could affect you.
hmm guess I was right then going by what Kermit said.
Haha when I was 14 I got into trouble with the police regarding the dealing of dope and the whole trouble was around buying it and not actually taking it.
im much more drug aware cuz of this place ..and like said before being on drugs isnt a crime however stupid the law is ..
but in all honesty ive found this one of the best places online for straight information on drugs :thumb:
I've kind of thought about what your saying before like sometimes I get all paranoid that I'm going to get told off for some stuff I write on here about drugs but as the others are saying the police should have more important matters to attend to it's not like any of us are selling coke to primary school kids.
Also I think the site is for people who want advice, help or to talk/ discuss/ socialise and thats pretty much what every one here uses it for give or take the odd "troll" or spamweirdo.
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What evidence? No one on here admits to being a drug dealer and it's not illegal to talk about drugs. This forum is here so people can educate themselves about drugs and learn how to use them safely so not only is this legal, it's necessary.
So long as people realise there's another side of the coin than "the law is stupid" and "it's just the system trying to put us into little boxes" then it's all good.
the police don´t want to pealise the lone users, because they are not the people that are causing the collateral damage. this is also a convenient loop hole, which means that certain illegal drugs can be given on prescription and also allow recreational users to use as they please, because tbh, the majority of people i know who are weekend users of a variety of drugs all have pretty normal jobs and lives, and are equaly valued by society as the next person. the old bill doesn´t want to send john the bank manager who has a pill to liven up his weekend so he can escape normality for a while or jenny who is a gran with bad arthiritis who has a spliff to ease the pain...
Really? Have you read much of the drugs board?
Plus most of the threads are people asking about dosage and environments to do them and stuff, surely if poeple are going to do drugs its a good thing that they do it understanding them..
Not as much as some right enough, but looking down the forum, most of the threads are about different kinds of drugs, safe usage and stuff which tells me most users have an experience of drugs and do them regularly. Probably a bit quick to say they all enjoy them, but the ones who do pills and other stuff at the weekends tend to be the regular ones on this forum.
It's a pro-drugs forum, all I'm saying is so long as you've got people who do make people aware that there are risks and that if you don't want to take eccys then that doesn't mean you're automatically missing out then it's all good
its legal because its not illegal to talk about drugs - simple as.
and the police would do f*all without any evidence.
... welcome to the real world... :thumb:
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You ever think that it might be positive about drugs because most people do have a good time on drugs and do so safely without losing jobs, become addicts, stealing to fund their habits, and all the other bullshit scare stories you get outside of forums like this? It only seems pro-drugs because mainstream media is so anti-drugs. From what I've read of this forum, it's actually far more balanced, and people don't make moral judgements about drugs, merely discuss the factual realities of taking them, and their own experiences. I don't see how that constitutes being pro-drugs.
The posters in the drug forum are drug users, so obviously there will be something of a positive spin put on drug use. It's not necessarily a bad thing (because the media coverage, and even Frank, are too far the other way- taking MDMA won't make you a rapist), but Bri isn't being unfair when he points it out.
And if you read the board regularly you'll see this point cropping up quite often.
I'm not a drug user and I post here loads and Budda and Lady Jade really do come across as ole nagging granny's sometimes when they talk about the dangers of drugs. All in all, I say it's pretty balanced, there are plenty of threads about bad experiences on drugs and what we thought of it and how to minimalise further damage.
Actually he's being quite patronising and so are you. I will presume you two don't read this board (or not very often) or else you would know that we share experiences here -good and bad. My comedown thread shows the after effects of drugs and how they can make you feel. And I can think of a few other threads where people have been worried about being addicted to cocaine or taking bad pills and warning others. And yerascrote quite rightly points out that budda and lady jade have often warned of the dangers.
Anyway, what you guys are saying about how Police don't care less about individual users, just the dealers who are behind it is like saying they shouldn't care about paedophiles who view child porn, just the people providing the material in the first place...