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What Can The Optician Do?

Went to the eye infirmary today to try and get visual aids. According to the consultant, there's nothing wrong with me, therefore they can't do anything.:yeees:

Anyway, she said 'if you have any problems with your vision, just go back to your GP and get them to refer you or go to the opticians and see what they can do.'

My question is, can the optician actually do anything that the consultant at the eye infirmary can't?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, considering that I am registered partially sighted and have a condition called nystagmus (uncontrollable eye movement) I don't quite understand how they've decided there's nothing wrong with me...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You may find that the optician/GP are better at the general lifestyle things, the consultant does the medical diagnosis and any surgery stuff but they are often rubbish when it comes to the outside world.

    An experienced optician may be very helpful, one of my boyfriends mates has something vaguely similar and I know the optician (took a couple of attempts to get the right one) was the most use on the day to day living front.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm still trying to work out why you need a referral from a GP just to see your optometrist :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't understand it either. It might be something to do with the fact that the last time I went was over 8 years ago (maybe more) and get my eyes tested at the opticians.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Irrelevant, you don't need a GP referral to see an optom. You just open the door and walk in...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Unless it's to see a specialist one.....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Still no GP referral required - either the consultant could do it or a generalist optom. Why involve the GP who, to be quite frank, knows bugger all about eye disease*...?




    * most GPs will have had maximum 6 month rotation covering eye disease
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You really are in a useful frame of mind tonight aren't you?

    If someone has said GP referral, why not let her go with that. It also gets her back to her GP and gives them a chance to catch up on where things are up to.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You really are in a useful frame of mind tonight aren't you?

    I'm trying to help.

    Why block a GP appointment when you don't need a GP? Surely that is partly why people have trouble getting to see their GP when they actually need to.
    If someone has said GP referral, why not let her go with that. It also gets her back to her GP and gives them a chance to catch up on where things are up to.

    Because it's a waste of her time, and that of her GP.

    The person who can help with her condition is the optom.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Some people (GPs and patients) would beg to differ on whether seeing your GP is a waste of the GPs time. If you've got a long term condition and you've been discharged it can be useful for you and your GP to have an appointment to see where things are up to as the GP is one of the best starting places for the day to day living advice.

    But then that uses up the valuable appointments and the uses of things like that to the patient aren't measurable for targets so managers aren't interested in them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Some people (GPs and patients) would beg to differ on whether seeing your GP is a waste of the GPs time.

    Do you go to your GP when you have a dental problem?

    If not, why not?
    If you've got a long term condition and you've been discharged it can be useful for you and your GP to have an appointment to see where things are up to as the GP is one of the best starting places for the day to day living advice.

    Indeed. I agree with the sentiment. If you have a medical condition which the GP can help you with, then it's hardly wasting their time - unless there is someone else who could halp you i.e. practice nurse.

    When it comes to eyes most GP will admit to having limited knowledge, indeed there is a survey where 1:10 said that their lack of knowledge in that area worries them.

    Optometrists are best placed to support patient with eye disease because, wll lets face it, their expertise is directly relevant. Indeed in this particular case the suggestion was they the optom was the best person for the job.
    But then that uses up the valuable appointments and the uses of things like that to the patient aren't measurable for targets so managers aren't interested in them.

    Thanks for the sterotype. You might as well have used the expression "bean counter".

    Heaven forbid that I suggest that she saves herself some time, or that she makes sure that the GP is free to see someone who really needs their medical knowledge - after all that's just about statistics and nothing to do with patient care isn't it?

    Do you know how many GPs complain about having their time wasted?

    I visited a practice on Thursday, they have 8,000 patient. During the previous month 277 had failed to turn up for appointments. Still that's just a statistic. Nothing to do with patient care.

    Except that each patient was allocated 10 minute worth of GP time, so that's wasted 2,770 minutes, or a whole week of one GP. One practice. That money could have been used to actually treat someone. That GP could have had time to do more home visits, perhaps had an extra few minutes with the needier patients.

    But hey, I'm more worried about the measurable targets.

    :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nope, but tonight you are coming across as if you are.

    I'd love to see a GP practise that wastes 2,770 minutes a month. If they've got things that well sussed they should be giving lessons. Some how I doubt the doctors spent their time idly twiddling their thumbs. While I accept that missed appointments at GPs are a problem the time rarely gets wasted.

    Who is it if it's not the GP that knows where to get the other support from, which optometrist to see, where else to look for help. GPs have a very valuable role beyond their medical knowledge which is sadly downplayed. Certainly around me the GP is the only place to get that help and guidance from when you need the support to live with your medical condition.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Okay enough of this. Outside, now :p


    Seriously, it's not me that mentioned targets. I also know that the GPs will have found something else to do - hell I try to give them as much paperwork as I can - but people rely on their GP too much. Sure they know many of the places - in part because patient don't find out for themselves.

    Interesting though, that like many other people, you seem to have forgotten that I am a patient too ;)
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