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Louis Theroux - The Most Hated Family In America

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I thought that the girl is likely to leave, her whole approach seemed to be less brain dead than others.

    :yes:

    I agree, I thought she was going to leave during the programme. Im sure deep down she wanted to be like all other teenage girls. She also seems such a clued up and bright young girl. I hope she does leave the 'cult' as i really believe she could have a good go at making a happy life for herself.

    Its just a shame, that she just seemed brainwashed. Never really sure what she was saying or how to answer. Poor girl obviously had to listen to that crap from her parents for years.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thirdly, what kind of cunt would watch that happen and think it was funny? Especially when you consider that being there is hardly the kids fault.

    Obviously cunts like me.

    I have to say I don't think it's particularly bad (or "cuntish" to follow a theme) to throw a drink at a group of hate-mongerers standing by the roadside pedalling intolerance and vitriol. I doubt they were aiming for the kid specifically since they threw it from a moving car and probably weren't trained marksmen but that's not really important. Of course I'd have laughed a lot more heartily if it had hit that Shirley woman right between the eyes but I just find it hard to find the headspace to be indignant about throwing soft drinks in the face of all the shite they were chucking about. Oh, and I certainly don't think the fact that someone chucked a cup at them justifies their view about the world and its inhabitants... at all.

    As for the older girl, I don't think she's likely to leave at all. Lots of people in cults are probably highly intelligent and eloquent and possibly have thoughts that wander from the path of righteousness from time to time. But the bottom line is that she's been brought up there, it's ingrained and absolute truth to her mind and the key factor is that she personally is actually treated well and provided with an extensive support network by her "family". Despite what we think she's likely to do, all signs point to the fact that she'll live out her life as she stated she thought she would. That's my view on it, anyway.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Violette wrote: »
    btw, did anyone understand what they were on about when they said that if you get knocked down and killed by a car, or die of cancer, you're going to hell? dint quite get that one.

    As I followed it, they meant that if you were knocked down by a car or diagnosed with cancer or died in any other way then it was an act of God and punishment for some undefined sin you had committed (undoubtedly related to "fags") and therefore God's will was being carried out and we were supposed to collapse in an orgasmic (or probably not, considering) pile of justified happiness.

    I did wonder how they would explain away their own deaths though... assuming they die "naturally" before this supposed impending day when God descends from the clouds to smite us all.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote: »
    As I followed it, they meant that if you were knocked down by a car or diagnosed with cancer or died in any other way then it was an act of God and punishment for some undefined sin you had committed (undoubtedly related to "fags") and therefore God's will was being carried out and we were supposed to collapse in an orgasmic (or probably not, considering) pile of justified happiness.

    I did wonder how they would explain away their own deaths though... assuming they die "naturally" before this supposed impending day when God descends from the clouds to smite us all.


    Wonder what their excuse was for Chicken Pox? :chin:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i dont think that someone throwing a paper cup of ice (or whatever it was) from a car was aiming specifically at the kid. he may have been, but i reckon they were just aiming at the group. i suppose its an understandable reaction really. if a group of people came to where i live and started picketing in that way, a lot of people would want to do something about it. and throwing rubbish would probably be one of the first reactions.

    remember that these people are unable to discuss their point with a logical arguement. they believe something and they are unwilling to listen to the other side, dismissing everything else, thus somehow prooving to themselves that they are right.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Isn't there some sort of seminary training needed to be a pastor / vicar, and furthermore, don't the powers that be have the power to kick dickheads like gramps out of the church?

    That is of course, assuming that they haven't already....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's his own church. He invented it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In general I thought it was interesting, for me Louis missed out on a major line from the Bible which he should have put to them "judge not...".

    Yeah but it's not really Louis' job to get them to justify their beliefs really. He's more one of those documentary makers who just attempts to be a bit more observational, rather than the Michael Moore style of making some sort of political argument (which let's face it, wouldn't take much effort with this group).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah but it's not really Louis' job to get them to justify their beliefs really. He's more one of those documentary makers who just attempts to be a bit more observational, rather than the Michael Moore style of making some sort of political argument (which let's face it, wouldn't take much effort with this group).

    Yeah I agree it was like watching Theroux bang his head against a brick wall, i mean he was reaching no-one in that family. Plus, because the subject was so insane and controversial Louis couldn't get involved, which is usually a big part of his show (ie. when he investigated porn, he had his own portfolio done for casting) which did mean it was almost entirely observational.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote: »
    Obviously cunts like me.

    Actually that was a bit strong and I apologise. Never post when you are angry, I should know better.
    I doubt they were aiming for the kid specifically since they threw it from a moving car and probably weren't trained marksmen but that's not really important...

    ...Oh, and I certainly don't think the fact that someone chucked a cup at them justifies their view about the world and its inhabitants... at all.

    So assaulting children, because that it was happened there, is something to

    a) laugh about

    b) defend because the child's parents are hate filled morons?

    One thing I do have the agree with them on is that they offer no voilence, but are met with it. The voice opinions and that is not good enough reason IMHO to assault either them or their children.
    Despite what we think she's likely to do, all signs point to the fact that she'll live out her life as she stated she thought she would. That's my view on it, anyway.

    Although others have left the family. I thought that her body language spoke volumes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah but it's not really Louis' job to get them to justify their beliefs really.

    He questioned a lot of what they were putting forward as viewpoints. It's a biggie really - they argued that their campaign was based on what the bible says and yet he didn't pick up on that really important aspect. It is for God to judge, not us.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Getting them to justify their beliefs was the least interesting part. We all know that they're are people who can justify anything... and while they're extreme they're not alone from lots of religous groups who think homosexuality is an ambomination and that you go to hell for sodomy...

    But I just find it interesting that in many ways they are so normal. There was just one scene where the teenage girls were just goofing around (it only lasted about three seconds) and it reminded me so much of my sisters when they were teenagers and their friends. Or when the kids were trampolining.

    Also does someone know if its true (I saw it on wiki which isn't a good source) that the Pastor actually won an award for his work on civil right cases and was heavily involved in anti-discrimination... That in itself just seems odd...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I just watched it. What a bunch of fucking wankers. And the paster he is a hate filled man, a right cunt. I hope they all get hit by a car :thumb:
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